The main 15 types of organic fert

Tamzi

Well-Known Member
Guano
Typical nutrients: 10-3-1, but variable depending on origin
Application rate: 5 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: varies between $1 and $7 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Fast

Cow Manure (composted)
Typical nutrients: 2-0-0
Application rate: 12 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.01 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Sewage Sludge
Typical nutrients: 6-2-0
Application rate: 4 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.30 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Slow

Soybean Meal
Typical nutrients: 6-1.4-2
Application rate: 4 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.25 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Worm Castings
Typical nutrients: 1-0-0
Application rate: 20 to 30 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.40 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Slow

Kelp
Typical nutrients: 1-0.2-2.
Application rate: 3 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.90 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Fast

Insect Manure (composted)
Typical nutrients: 4-3-2
Application rate: 6 to 8 pounds per 100 square feet.
Cost: $.90 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Fast

Fish Products
Typical nutrients: 9-7-0 (dry); 5-2-2 (liquid)
Application rate: 3 pounds per 100 square feet (dry); 3 ounces per 100 square feet (liquid)
Cost: $1.25 per pound (dry); $.10 per ounce (liquid)
Availability of nutrients: Fast

Cottonseed Meal
Typical nutrients:6-2-2
Application rate: 4 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.80 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Bonemeal
Typical n 2-11-0
Application rate: 5 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $1 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Slow

Blood Meal
Typical nutrients: 12-0-0
Application rate: 2 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.90 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Fast

Beet Pulp
Typical nutrients: 6-0-0
Application rate: 4 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.80 per pound.
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Alfalfa Pellets or Meal
Typical nutrients: 3-1-2
Application rate: 8 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.60 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Corn Gluten
Typical nutrients: 9-0-0
Application rate: 3 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: $.40 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Moderate

Compost
Typical nutrients: 1-1-1
Application rate: 25 pounds per 100 square feet
Cost: Free to $.25 per pound
Availability of nutrients: Slow

most of these are available via garden store/ agriculture stores
hope the info above helps in your choice. i tend too like the bonemeal with its 2-11-0 maybe good for flowering/budding up
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
Nice Post...Good Info... All of it shows just how reasonable organic sources of fertilizer and/or soil amendments are.

The only one, I would steer clear of is the sludge. A lot of commercial worm farms use it as a cheap feed & unfortunately Big Agri Farms (10,000 acres farms) use it at the end of the season to fight errosion. That's another dangerous thing these Mega Farms (who use only chemical NPK fertilizers) do to the soil, concentrate heavy metals in it - using sludge, which saves them a few bucks per acre. Big Agri - their business is not about the nute value of food - all about the dollar - Yuck.
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If you buy worm castings from larger worm farms - it's always a good ideal to inquire about the diet they feed their worms. The digestive tract of the worm is amazing an will break down / improve most soil - but sludge from large cities always has more heavy metals - because of industrial pollution - and guess where some of these big worm farms are located. Yet another reason to get a cheap Rubbermaind Plasic Tote, and make your own worm farm. Know the source of your amendment for sure.
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+ rep for the good info...
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Keep it Real....Organic....
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Tamzi

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thank you ohsogreen

another thing i stumbled across was this:

homemade liquid fert:

grass clipping (lots of N)
tree leaves
soft /medium chopped twigs stems etc etc.
weeds/ large /small

place all your greenery into a sack / wheeliebin / bin and fill with water, not too much. now leave it alone too ferment. remember leave it dont mess with it at all. after a month or so you will notice a barnyard type smell/ agri type smell. and should notice that the liquid has bubbles and scum on it. this is the bactiria doing its job and breaking down your green into a liquid fert. after a month in warm weather ( 3 months in colder climates) your left with a very good liquid fert.

this stuff stinks and if place on skin will not wash away too well so strong rubber gloves are needed for extraction. placing the greenery into a sack allows you too syphon of some of your liquid, refill your bag and top up with a little more water, replace lid and leave too ferment again.

there was no info on how much too use or its ppm/ph.

hope this helps everyone with a chemical free grow. please ignore the waste sludge part, as mentioned with ohsogreen it is not an ideal fert too use.

Tamzi
 

Tamzi

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hi candy, sorry i havent answered your question.

i personaly am a soil grower. love getting my hands dirty so aero/hydroponics are alittle above me.

bone meal: high in K

personaly i think most ferts/nuets you purchase are going too have some kind of bone meal added its a very high K with a typical nuetriant count of 2-11-0
this could be a very good bloom fert but is strong. i would ask a few aero/hydroponoc growers see if any have used a bonemeal mix as a subsitute for thier normal bloom ferts.

Tamzi
 

candylime12

Well-Known Member
htanks for your replie i ended up just going to the hydro store and went with a supposed
organic nute. called age old bloom the contents didnt have anything that i couldn't say and it was stuff that i reqconized so i think that im safe the npk is 5-10-5 so im hoping that it'll do the job.
 

Tamzi

Well-Known Member
htanks for your replie i ended up just going to the hydro store and went with a supposed
organic nute. called age old bloom the contents didnt have anything that i couldn't say and it was stuff that i reqconized so i think that im safe the npk is 5-10-5 so im hoping that it'll do the job.

yup should be fine low N-k and high P ideal for bloom/flowering. hope you do well with your grow.

Tamzi
 

Tamzi

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New Addition too the fert post. this fert is a somewhat toutchy subject on this forum. the fert in question is human Urea also known as pee.

Urea:

Typical nuetriant count: 46% nitrogen
Application rate: one part Urea too 10 parts water
Collection period: mid day onwards. not used if have taken alcohol/ or intoxicated with alcohol.

some more info anout the application and use of Urea.

Urea, a white crystalline solid containing 46% nitrogen, is widely used in the agricultural industry as an animal feed additive and fertilizer.
If properly applied, urea and fertilizers containing urea are excellent sources of nitrogen for crop production.

After application to the soil, urea undergoes chemical changes and ammonium (NH4 +) ions form. Soil moisture determines how rapidly this conversion takes place.

When a urea particle dissolves, the area around it becomes a zone of high pH and ammonia concentration. This zone can be quite toxic for a few hours. Seed and seedling roots within this zone can be killed by the free ammonia that has formed. Fortunately, this toxic zone becomes neutralized in most soils as the ammonia converts to ammonium. Usually it's just a few days before plants can effectively use the nitrogen.

i dont say use it or dont use it. this addon was too show that UREA CAN be used as a form of high nitrogen and clear up this myth about using UREA. most agri ferts have Urea added too them the food we eat was grown with urea too !!!
 

Tamzi

Well-Known Member
new fert added below

Urea
Typical nuetriants: 46% nitrogen, other sub micro nuets


A white crystalline solid containing 46% nitrogen, is widely used in the agricultural industry as an animal feed additive and fertilizer.
If properly applied, urea and fertilizers containing urea are excellent sources of nitrogen for crop production.

After application to the soil, urea undergoes chemical changes and ammonium (NH4 +) ions form. Soil moisture determines how rapidly this conversion takes place.

When a urea particle dissolves, the area around it becomes a zone of high pH and ammonia concentration. This zone can be quite toxic for a few hours. Seed and seedling roots within this zone can be killed by the free ammonia that has formed. Fortunately, this toxic zone becomes neutralized in most soils as the ammonia converts to ammonium. Usually it's just a few days before plants can effectively use the nitrogen.


posted too clear up the Urea myth

Tamzi
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
Tamzi.... Good info, everything has a place and a use. Even urine (aka urea), though most commerical Urea ferts are made from ammonia & carbon dioxide, in a chemical reactive process. So, Urea, regardless of the source - is still all Organic.
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I've used this stuff to jump start a huge compost pile before. It works great, smells heavily of ammonia for a day, but then fades to nothing over the course of two or three days.
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At a Farmer's Co-Op you can get it cheap. I bought a busted 25 # bag for $ 6
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Keep it Real...Organic.....
 

joshuatragedy

Active Member
ok....
so....
Tamzi.. or OhSo....

i am tryin to do a fert thats 20-5-5,
im very new to doing these organic teas and ferts,
am i suppost to just mix the ingredients listed above and add the numbers to make
that makeup??
 

Titan4jah

Well-Known Member
this thread is a blessing yo. but hey ohso? you ever add blood meal when your useing growitgreen alwready, was guna see how it effected my girls.

i dont think i saw seaweed on here yet, ive seen peaple useing a seeweed nute from walmart of all places.
 

Titan4jah

Well-Known Member
ok....
so....
Tamzi.. or OhSo....

i am tryin to do a fert thats 20-5-5,
im very new to doing these organic teas and ferts,
am i suppost to just mix the ingredients listed above and add the numbers to make
that makeup??

im not a pro like ohso but i saw somewhere that the N_P_K numbers ae just the % of that specific nute solution. this almost makes me more confused tho, im wondering if that means the rest of the solution is water? 70%
 

Bagelthief

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WTF! sewer sludge can be used as a nute? do you guys mean the shit and piss from humans? WWWWTTTTTFFFFF!!! that is some of the dirtiest nastiest shit (pun intended) i have ever heard of....not only do you have no clue what other people eat or drink...but some nasty stuff gets flushed down the toilet everyday...like your neighbor who got his door busted down by DEA and flushed his kilo of coke down the pipe...
 

tckfui

Well-Known Member
you can buy sewage sludge?!

I would be more woried about drain chemicals, and other nasty things like bletch and shit like that :(
 
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