Trying to diagnose last week - no improvement or solution

Nilspoulsen

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Today marks 14 days since pop. The pictures were taken yesterday (day 13). I'm growing in 80% coco 20% perlite in a 5 gallon fabric pot. Grow tent conditions stay around 83F and 60% humidity. I wasnt watering until runoff until 2 days ago which was the last watering, the coco has stayed moist so Im holding off watering. I was feeding full strength advanced nutes for coco and suspected nute burn so I flushd with just distilled water and have been spraying calmag foliar spray to leaves once a day. Leaves have been twisting since day 7 of the grow which I was not feeding anything besides water. The Leaves that started twisting eventually turned yellow. The plant has seen pretty good growth and does not seem to be stumped in growth. New leaves have started to show signs of curling down and the older ones already started twisting. Thinking a mobile deficiency since its starting at older leaves and going up.
Watering ~6 ph and run off was around 6.4 ph with 1100 ec I forgot the ppm reading.
Im new to growing so I was wondering if maybe this might have something to do with the genetics? its a sour D autoflower from ILGM.com
No one has been able to give me an answer and I have not really seen improvement. I have posted a couple of threads but again no real answer so sorry for littering the forum.
Will attach a pic of day 7 of grow and day 13 of grow.
Thank you all in advance
 

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Failmore

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I mean your not in to bad shape for 14 days.

Def don't feed full strength yet, but 1100 is not a very hi value either.

Don't foliar feed everyday either. Once or twice a week is fine. Do it when the lights turn off.
But in theory you should not need to.

Is that the ph perfect advanced stuff?

If not feed closer to 6 or maybe a little under.

My feed is probably 600ec for a plant that size.

You should be watering every day with feed that is about 600-800 ec. Just the a+b nothing else. Soak the pot to runoff once a day minimum.

When they grow big maybe more than once.
 

Nilspoulsen

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I mean your not in to bad shape for 14 days.

Def don't feed full strength yet, but 1100 is not a very hi value either.

Don't foliar feed everyday either. Once or twice a week is fine. Do it when the lights turn off.
But in theory you should not need to.

Is that the ph perfect advanced stuff?

If not feed closer to 6 or maybe a little under.

My feed is probably 600ec for a plant that size.

You should be watering every day with feed that is about 600-800 ec. Just the a+b nothing else. Soak the pot to runoff once a day minimum.

When they grow big maybe more than once.
yes its the ph perfect coco line.
Ill drop the EC for next watering. I didnt water because the bottom of the pot its still wet when i feel through the fabric. Coco feels damp everywhere else
 

Failmore

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yes its the ph perfect coco line.
Ill drop the EC for next watering. I didnt water because the bottom of the pot its still wet when i feel through the fabric. Coco feels damp everywhere else
Ok. So...they say to not touch the PH when using that stuff. So... I guess I would follow their advice.

The coco should always be damp.
 

Nilspoulsen

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Ok. So...they say to not touch the PH when using that stuff. So... I guess I would follow their advice.

The coco should always be damp.
Usually itll bring it down right where it needs to be. Otherwise Ill put just enough ph down for where I wanna be which I try to be from 5.9-6.1
But I only had to do that when I was giving it 25% strength nutes. If i Go 100% usually will bring it to 5.9 automatically which is pretty neat lol.
 

Failmore

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Usually itll bring it down right where it needs to be. Otherwise Ill put just enough ph down for where I wanna be which I try to be from 5.9-6.1
But I only had to do that when I was giving it 25% strength nutes. If i Go 100% usually will bring it to 5.9 automatically which is pretty neat lol.
That is why I stopped using advanced. It would cost me 200$ for a grow. Had to run 100% to get to the correct ph.

Now I spend 5$ or something a grow with jacks tap.
 

Nilspoulsen

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That is why I stopped using advanced. It would cost me 200$ for a grow. Had to run 100% to get to the correct ph.

Now I spend 5$ or something a grow with jacks tap.
Coco was starting to dry on top and bottom wasnt wet anymore so I watered until runoff which took me almost a gallon of 1100 EC 6ph water. Wanted to get the EC lower but I only had so much distilled water to dilute my previous 1400 EC solution. Runoff was high. 1440 Ec i think around 720 ppm and 6.16 Ph.
Should I flush with 25% strength next watering or should I just go straight distilled until runoff?
 

Nilspoulsen

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Also noticed before I was watering that the plant was drooping a little more than it was earlier which I thought was because it was thirsty.
Anyways I hope I dont wake up to it fallen over lol
 

Failmore

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Should be watering once a day till run off with water that is around 1000ec. See how the plant likes that. More if needed. With coco you always feed. Feeding at 1100 is fine.

That runoff is fine.
 

Nilspoulsen

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Should be watering once a day till run off with water that is around 1000ec. See how the plant likes that. More if needed. With coco you always feed. Feeding at 1100 is fine.

That runoff is fine.
She looked a little more happy this morning so I guess she liked the watering.
 

Nilspoulsen

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Def don't feed full strength yet, but 1100 is not a very hi value either.
Little Day 18 update. Watered two days ago Ph comes perfect 6.16 everytime but Ec was 1550.
Started LST this is my first grow so if anything looks wrong/off lmk Shes pretty bushy and not too tall
Should I be considering giving it a watering of just straight Distilled water soon or just a lower Nute level to avoid buildup?
Thanks
 

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Little Day 18 update. Watered two days ago Ph comes perfect 6.16 everytime but Ec was 1550.
Started LST this is my first grow so if anything looks wrong/off lmk Shes pretty bushy and not too tall
Should I be considering giving it a watering of just straight Distilled water soon or just a lower Nute level to avoid buildup?
Thanks
Just water every day with 0.8ec and it will drop.

Need to water till run off

Plants look good
 

Nilspoulsen

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Day 20 and one of the fan leaves kinda has some yellowing from the middle coming through but barely. 3rd day of LST I think and the stem is really thickening up. The plant is super bushy and pretty short so everything looks like a mess. Some leaves look like they cant even grow properly Im not sure if that a problem or not. I cut one fan leaf that was covering a bunch of the leaves under and the Very fist set of leaves which were yellowed from day 7 (never got better or worse). You cant see in these pics but I believe I saw two really small pistil hairs or whatever theyre called in about two parts of the plant.
Watering with ~ 800 Ec nute water to drop runoff
Last runoff reading 1450Ec 6.2 Ph
Woke up this morning to 99% RH in the tent because I accidentally turned off the carbon filter. Humidity like 55-60% should i be getting a dehumidifier for the upcoming stages?
Sorry for the random questions all at once
 

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Failmore

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Day 20 and one of the fan leaves kinda has some yellowing from the middle coming through but barely. 3rd day of LST I think and the stem is really thickening up. The plant is super bushy and pretty short so everything looks like a mess. Some leaves look like they cant even grow properly Im not sure if that a problem or not. I cut one fan leaf that was covering a bunch of the leaves under and the Very fist set of leaves which were yellowed from day 7 (never got better or worse). You cant see in these pics but I believe I saw two really small pistil hairs or whatever theyre called in about two parts of the plant.
Watering with ~ 800 Ec nute water to drop runoff
Last runoff reading 1450Ec 6.2 Ph
Woke up this morning to 99% RH in the tent because I accidentally turned off the carbon filter. Humidity like 55-60% should i be getting a dehumidifier for the upcoming stages?
Sorry for the random questions all at once
50-60 is fine. 99 will rot your plants. If you do something like that in the last 2 weeks of flowering you will loose the entire crop. And it will happen over night. So don't do that again lol.

So if it stays 60 with the fan on you are fine. Just don't turn it off ever.
 
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Nilspoulsen

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50-60 is fine. 99 will rot your plants. If you do something like that in the last 2 weeks of flowering you will loose the entire crop. And it will happen over night. So don't do that again lol.

So if it stays 60 with the fan on you are fine. Just don't turn it off ever.
Had to buy a dehumidifier was starting to get over 60’s with the bushiness. I snapped the main cola right off shortly after the last update I gave you guys . Taped it on for a couple of hours but wilted in minutes so I took it off and the plant still didn’t really heal the snap but it had tons of new bud sites off of the other colas and the canopy is nice and even. Can’t even imagine trying to even out the canopy with a main cola still present
 

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