Vegging to avoid too much middle growth

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Fevs.

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Day 60 of 12/12 for the lemon skunk. Still not done anything to her at all after the flip. Harvest time soon. Been feeding her canna boost and water sometimes too. Days away...

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Earlier in this thread there are photo's of my 2 uk cheese clones vegged the same way. Day 30 of 12/12 for each. 1 plant in each 4ft x4ft tent, 750w gavita de

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Not scrogs, nets are just 4 plant support.

Over and out... This is my last update. Lemon Skunk will be down pretty soon...
 
Autofire

Autofire

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Fevs. said:
Day 60 of 12/12 for the lemon skunk. Still not done anything to her at all after the flip. Harvest time soon. Been feeding her canna boost and water sometimes too. Days away...

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Earlier in this thread there are photo's of my 2 uk cheese clones vegged the same way. Day 30 of 12/12 for each. 1 plant in each 4ft x4ft tent, 750w gavita de

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Not scrogs, nets are just 4 plant support.

Over and out... This is my last update. Lemon Skunk will be down pretty soon...
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it certainly looks very pretty. What kind of yields do you expect from each plant using this method?
 
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Fevs.

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Autofire said:
it certainly looks very pretty. What kind of yields do you expect from each plant using this method?
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I have no idea to be honest. I don't shoot for yield. I shoot for plant health. I can't remember the last time I weighed the buds on a photoperiod plant. Years and years ago.

I can veg these plants in a 3ft tent with door open and vents open, with a 50w cob, no extraction and a 15w clip on fan. It's just so easy and cheap. Plus watering 1 plant is just great! Hoover up the run off, then that's it.
 
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Rdubz

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Fevs. said:
I wanted to share a post with you all. For years I have got fucked off with too much middle growth. No light and air getting through, so I decided to try a new way of vegging. Now I top them early, get many branches, then supercrop the fuck out of every branch at the edges. Then I remove every single node in the middle of the plant. Here are 2 cheese clones which are going into day 1 of 12/12 tmrw.

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Next plant, both have gavita 750de in a 4x4 tent each. 1 plant, 20 litres of coco perlite 70/30.

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So there are fuck all nodes anywhere in the middle. That kind of makes lollipop'n a bit easier. Not to mention trimming. They grow loads in the stretch anyway, so I just bank on that. I did this technique to this lemon skunk clone from DNA. She is a nice distance from the lights. I have put the lights just over 1ft away now. This is her on day 32 of 12/12. Still haven't had to lollipop her as there is nothing under there and won't be. Look how the mid/edges just grew to the middle, which then allowed the far/edges more space too.

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For me it does bare the question, why would anybody leave on middle growth, unless you want more work, more lollipop'n, bad air flow, no light hitting the bottom of the colas... Trimming nightmare. It just goes on.

Ok, so for you lst people. Tying a plant down for me isn't to my taste. It gets in the way of the watering can. Your plants have string, My plants have hardened month old supercropped knuckles. They support their own weight well. I do highly respect the method mainlining though. I will say that, but I don't have height issues in my set ups.

I believe I have found a very easy way to grow for coco growers. I'm naturally very lazy, so always do things to make it easier for myself. This technique just makes real sense to me.

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11 years of growing has brought me to this point. This plant makes me smile each day when I see her :weed:

I will add photo's of the 2 uk cheese clones so you can see them develop.
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Very nice just wondering what was your total veg time untill the day u flipped ?
 
Autofire

Autofire

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Fevs. said:
I have no idea to be honest. I don't shoot for yield. I shoot for plant health. I can't remember the last time I weighed the buds on a photoperiod plant. Years and years ago.

I can veg these plants in a 3ft tent with door open and vents open, with a 50w cob, no extraction and a 15w clip on fan. It's just so easy and cheap. Plus watering 1 plant is just great! Hoover up the run off, then that's it.
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Nice way to do it mate.
 
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Fevs.

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2 UK Cheese clones day 50 of 12/12. 3 weeks to go :weed: 4x4 tents 750w de Gavita in each. Not scrogs. Just bud support nets.

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Only grown these genetics once before. She yellowed like fuck 1st time. Bit of yellowing , but not bother by it. Last time she finished with buds on stick and hardly any leaves, so going to go with that again. Have been feeding a slightly higher ec to keep her as green as possible for longer. The buds are worth the battle getting to know how she likes it. She's Not the normal run of the mill plant.

Now feeding her 1ml per litre magnecal+ with 150% bloom feed at 1.0ec. ph 5.8-6. That;s only this week, then putting her on 0.8ec a and b nutes until the end. Then finish her with canna boost, then plain water. Like just enough for her not to dry out. Each of these clones is drinking a gallon every 12 hours lol Never seen anything like it in my rooms. Plus when they drink it and I hoover the run off, I then fill her tray with plain water right to the top and she still looks bone dry 12 hours later. She's just a beast!
 
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ComfortCreator

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Fevs. said:
How long do you cook the butter for? My wife did 3 hours, the neighbours last did a day lol. I'm making it at my place so I'd rather it wasn't a day... But if needs be...
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It only takes 30 minutes.

Ive been doing it for 30 years, never understood folks roasting it in the oven for hours, simmering it in butter for hours. It only needs to dissolve into an oil and separate out the water.

After my 30 years of making it I saw Oaksterdam has a test kitchen and they teach exactly what i say -- 30 minutes in a double boiler and then use as you see fit.

All the rest is noise and people doing too much that does nothing helpful!

Even worse a lot of people are afraid to filter out the plant matter with a coffee filter. They use all the plant material and sxxx comes out like nasty granola.
 
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