No that’s not typical. I‘ve grown many dozens (progeny of a quad-whorled) and it does happen sometimes. Not really a good thing either imo, worst case scenario it becomes fasciated (ribbon-like stem with so many branches it has little space left to grow decent bud). You could remove some branches to make sure the rest has enough space. Once mature, early flowering, the nodes will alternate anyway, making it more like spiral phyllotaxy.
Based on growing loads of plants with whorled phyllotaxy, it’s not any more or less common than plants with regular phyllotax, as in there is no direct link between the whorled phyllotaxy and hermies. That said, whorled phyllotaxy is a result of a different hormone balance (auxins vs cytokinins) which can indicate a hormone imbalance in general which turn can result in hermies.
Okay. But my point is that i read that some people said that the two traits go hand in hand more often than herming in normal plants. Even if they are two unrelated tihngs that often go hand in hand, its good to look out for hermies more. I mean because they go hand in hand more often, you should be more careful looking for male flowers.
“Some people said” a lot of things, especially when it comes to cannabis plants. Most of those things are botched conclusions based on conflating their own limited experience with 5th hand forum-nonsense. Just like your claim of “often” based on a single plant.
Read what you said:
And read what i said. If you dong get it, read it again and again and again, if you still dont get it, please dont ask me.
Right. Obviously if you grow clones from the same motherplant over and over it becomes less of a concern but if you don’t notice nanners on your plants you’re not keeping a good enough eye on them regardless.
That’s impossible to say upfront. First, it’s possible none will have the same trait if they aren’t grown under the same circumstance. It’s a phenotype, which is a combi of genetics+environment. Any change in the environment, including slightly different feeding regime, could result in regular plants. Normally it would also depend a lot on what you cross it with, but if you self it, it is still very possible you breed it out.
As I mentioned previously, google for breeding for whorls (different forum so no direct link). You won’t find more elaborate info on whorled phyllotaxy in cannabis than in that thread. I spent years researching it and crossing in and out up to a point where nearly half where whorled. A main advantage is that they simply produce more budsites in the same amount of time, but unless you train/top/lst the plants it can actually be a downside.
No I don’t. Only way to be sure a plant is a polyploid is by a DNA test. A THC percentage of 35-50% would be a strong indication but still, very hard to tell without dna lab test. There’s a ton of misinformation on polyploid cannabis though. In fact, if you google polyploid cannabis and check the image results they often show plants with the fasciation mutation. Here’s a pic of one of mine:
I seen a video on a grow of "Mutant celery and it had a fat wide stem.. like 3 stems in one. Looked like a ribbon, and it grew out in veg lookin like cousin IT from the Adams family lol
No I didn't. I've seen a couple male autoflowers with a couple branches that were flat and showed the fasciation mutation and I can't remember but j think both started out as being whorled phylotaxy
I'm getting whorled phytolaxy in this pack of Ethos Super Lemon Haze f5 I just germinated...Crazy thing is I found a post about whorled phytolaxy on the same breeder and same strain. People have said on other forums it's environmental stressors but I doubt that bcuz these seed packs were the EXACT same.