tangerinegreen555
Well-Known Member
When? Where?
Your BS speaks for itself...
If the shoe fits, slide that MotherFucker on and OWN it like a man.
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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If the shoe fits, slide that MotherFucker on and OWN it like a man.
ttystikk
Well-Known Member
His strongest (smelling) political argument is calling people names.
Pathetic, really.
The_Herban_Legend
Well-Known Member
Lol, @ttystikk I own you every time we get into it. "Don't cry, dry your eyes". Your rebuttal of "feel the Bern" has been one of your more intellectual posts.
We already do..they get tax credit for taking them offshore.
Qualities of a great leader..why don't you like Bernie?
We need to stop labeling and vote platform viability what makes sense for our country, not best hair/breath kardashianites, the choice is clear.
Grow up, stoners..keep in mind someday the description of 'clunky old fart' is what your grandkids will be calling you too.
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
Taxation itself can be bad for economic growth.
For instance property taxes are a DISINCENTIVE for economic growth. People are penalized for improving their homes in that if they do spend the money on materials and labor, they will be taxed higher. Thus real free trade that COULD have happened, the hiring of labor and purchase of buiding supplies etc. is stifled.
Costs should not be shared evenly as a default, Comrade. Costs should be borne by the individual people that decide to use a given service or product otherwise more perverse incentives are created.
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
Pedophiles should be used for firewood
Yeah I guess Subway Jared will be bringing new meaning to double meat BMT..
You can be the first to give him some of your Italian, CR.
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
It's an interesting straw man that you have constructed. Did you do that to create a distraction from my calling out your Prohibitionist tendencies or did you do it because you lack both the intelligence to understand my position and then to try to feebly refute it ? Both maybe?
I know you don't consider yourself a prohibitionist, but your contorted legislative boot licking of the masters to avoid a spanking by them has provided me with much amusement. Thank you, Prohibitionist.
How would you light a pedophile, would you get a government fire permit?
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
It's good you are concerned about the well being of children.Yeah I guess Subway Jared will be bring in new meaning to double meat BMT..
How does Bernie propose bringing peace to the world by voting to continue droning innocent children again ?
I'm bring you out of 'ignore' for your answer..let the Saudi army handle their shit over there, is Sanders' mindset.
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
What Bernie says and what Bernie does are two different things. He voted repeatedly to fund the USA's military empire. Why would anybody do that and then out of the other side of his mouth try to position himself as a "peaceful" option? Do you think he'll get a Nobel Peace prize too ?
He also wants to saddle future generations of children both those already alive and those yet to be born with debt. I'd say he's the answer to a false set of questions and his supporters might be well intentioned, but hopelessly unable to discern shit from shinola.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Its simply a myth that Democrats are spendthrifts while Republicans are fiscally responsible.
What Bernie says and what Bernie does are two different things. He voted repeatedly to fund the USA's military empire. Why would anybody do that and then out of the other side of his mouth try to position himself as a "peaceful" option? Do you think he'll get a Nobel Peace prize too ?
He also wants to saddle future generations of children both those already alive and those yet to be born with debt. I'd say he's the answer to a false set of questions and his supporters might be well intentioned, but hopelessly unable to discern shit from shinola.
The great wall of debt was built in the first term of this guy's Presidency:
Republicans love cutting taxes, they love increasing spending and they party when doing both. Yes indeed they do! Of course there was this hangover called the Great Recession after the last party. They are making ready for another party but Bernie is going to take away the punch bowl when he gets into office.
Rob Roy
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Its simply a myth that Democrats are spendthrifts while Republicans are fiscally responsible.
The great wall of debt was built in the first term of this guy's Presidency:
Republicans love cutting taxes, they love increasing spending and they party when doing both. Yes indeed they do! Of course there was this hangover called the Great Recession after the last party. They are making ready for another party but Bernie is going to take away the punch bowl when he gets into office.
Bernie's idea of "peace" is like a turd in a punch bowl.
Thanks for that amazing revelation that both major political parties in the USA are happy to steal your money. It was very enlightening. Ronald Reagan should have stuck to doing Borax commercials.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
I'm glad to have enlightened you regarding Ronald Rayguns profligate habits. Libertarians like you have difficulty with reality and I am glad to remind you of it whenever you start ranting your fantasies.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Reality calls again, @Rob Roy, I checked Bernie's record and as usual, you are wrong about Bernie as a war hawk in Congress. I'm sure you can find a few times where he sided with the Hawks, such as authorizing military spending in Kosovo and Somalia. But that's it isn't it? He voted to authorize funds to attack your Libertarian Never-Never Land, Somalia.
We agree on one thing, judge a politician not by what they say, rather judge them by their actions. Bernie is no war hawk.
Summary of his record on military spending: http://mosquitocloud.net/like-it-or-not-bernie-sanders-congressional-voting-record
Like It or Not: Bernie Sanders’ Congressional Voting Record.
08/29/2015 by mc.murphy 0 Comments
Depending on our individual political proclivities we reserve to ourselves the right to have strong opinions regarding the respective presidential candidates’ merits or demerits. This, of course, is as it ought to be.
Out of self respect and respect for our adversaries, however, and no matter how strongly we may feel about any candidate, we should categorically eschew buttressing our opinions with propaganda as opposed to facts.
It is a sorry testament to our political culture – and I’m speaking from the left – that our own trusted sources are not above using trumped up charges in order to discredit, and to score points, against candidates who don’t meet with our approval. We should denounce such underhanded practices and the authors who make use of them, forcefully, because distortions of truths – which we then trustingly and faithfully repeat – art part and parcel of the political sleaze in which we then become inadvertently inured.
I, for one, irrespective of my differences with Bernie, resent that.
So here is Bernie’s salient voting record, like it or not, hat tip direction of danny j who compiled it.
Bernie Sanders voted AGAINST:
* USA PATRIOT Act
Oct. 24, 2001, HR 3162
(and every expansion and reauthorization afterwards)
Nov. 20, 2003, HR 2417
July 21, 2005: HR 3199
Dec. 14, 2005: HR 3199
March 7, 2006: S 2271
May 23, 2011: S 1038
May 26, 2011: S 990
Relatedly, voted against:
* Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004
* Creation of Department of Homeland Security
July 26, 2002, HR 5005
* Invasion of Iraq (and all later bills to fund it “off the records”)
Oct. 10, 2002, H J Res 114
Iraq War Funding:
You may remember that Bush II kept Iraq War funding out of the regular “defense” budget, and so it was funded with “emergency funding” bills. Sanders voted AGAINST every single bill to fund the Iraq War, with one possible exception. In 2006, Iraq War funding may have been bundled with Hurricane Katrina relief and other necessary emergency funding which he did vote for.
* Global War on Terror
June 16, 2006, H Res 861
* No Child Left Behind
Dec. 13, 2001, HR 1
* All “Free Trade Acts”
* NAFTA, Nov. 17, 1993, HR 345
* GATT (Free Trade Act that created the WTO and World Bank).
June 22, 1993, HR 1876
*He later sponsored his first bill to withdraw from the WTO.
*July 27, 2002, HR 3009
* July 24, 2003, HR 2738, U.S.-Chile Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
* July 24, 2003, HR 2739, U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
* March 2, 2005, H J Res 27,
* July 20, 2006, HR 5684, U.S.-Oman Free Trade Agreement Implementation
Additionally, Dec. 6, 2001, voted against
* HR 3005, Fast Track Trade Authority bill
* Deepwater Oil Drilling
June 29, 2006, HR 4761
* 1994 Bill Clinton’s “Tough On Crime” package
* Omnibus Crime Bill
Aug. 21, 1994, HR 3355
* Anti-Crime bill,
Feb. 14, 1995, HR 728
* 1996, Bill Clinton’s Anti-Terrorsm and Effective Death Penalty Act
https://www.govtrack.us/congre…
* Juvenile Crime bill,
May 8, 1997, HR 3
* Telecommunications Bill,
Feb. 1, 1996, S 652
* Both versions of Clinton’s Comprehensive Terrorism Prevention Act (Precursor to USA PATRIOT Act)
April 18, 1996, S 735
Antiterrorism bill,
March 14, 1996, HR 2703
* Bill Clinton’s Defense of Marriage Act
July 12, 1996, HR 3396
* Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Act
July 18, 1996, HR 3734
* Bill Clinton’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
Sept. 29, 1993, H Amdt 318
We agree on one thing, judge a politician not by what they say, rather judge them by their actions. Bernie is no war hawk.
Summary of his record on military spending: http://mosquitocloud.net/like-it-or-not-bernie-sanders-congressional-voting-record
Like It or Not: Bernie Sanders’ Congressional Voting Record.
08/29/2015 by mc.murphy 0 Comments
Depending on our individual political proclivities we reserve to ourselves the right to have strong opinions regarding the respective presidential candidates’ merits or demerits. This, of course, is as it ought to be.
Out of self respect and respect for our adversaries, however, and no matter how strongly we may feel about any candidate, we should categorically eschew buttressing our opinions with propaganda as opposed to facts.
It is a sorry testament to our political culture – and I’m speaking from the left – that our own trusted sources are not above using trumped up charges in order to discredit, and to score points, against candidates who don’t meet with our approval. We should denounce such underhanded practices and the authors who make use of them, forcefully, because distortions of truths – which we then trustingly and faithfully repeat – art part and parcel of the political sleaze in which we then become inadvertently inured.
I, for one, irrespective of my differences with Bernie, resent that.
So here is Bernie’s salient voting record, like it or not, hat tip direction of danny j who compiled it.
Bernie Sanders voted AGAINST:
* USA PATRIOT Act
Oct. 24, 2001, HR 3162
(and every expansion and reauthorization afterwards)
Nov. 20, 2003, HR 2417
July 21, 2005: HR 3199
Dec. 14, 2005: HR 3199
March 7, 2006: S 2271
May 23, 2011: S 1038
May 26, 2011: S 990
Relatedly, voted against:
* Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004
* Creation of Department of Homeland Security
July 26, 2002, HR 5005
* Invasion of Iraq (and all later bills to fund it “off the records”)
Oct. 10, 2002, H J Res 114
Iraq War Funding:
You may remember that Bush II kept Iraq War funding out of the regular “defense” budget, and so it was funded with “emergency funding” bills. Sanders voted AGAINST every single bill to fund the Iraq War, with one possible exception. In 2006, Iraq War funding may have been bundled with Hurricane Katrina relief and other necessary emergency funding which he did vote for.
* Global War on Terror
June 16, 2006, H Res 861
* No Child Left Behind
Dec. 13, 2001, HR 1
* All “Free Trade Acts”
* NAFTA, Nov. 17, 1993, HR 345
* GATT (Free Trade Act that created the WTO and World Bank).
June 22, 1993, HR 1876
*He later sponsored his first bill to withdraw from the WTO.
*July 27, 2002, HR 3009
* July 24, 2003, HR 2738, U.S.-Chile Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
* July 24, 2003, HR 2739, U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
* March 2, 2005, H J Res 27,
* July 20, 2006, HR 5684, U.S.-Oman Free Trade Agreement Implementation
Additionally, Dec. 6, 2001, voted against
* HR 3005, Fast Track Trade Authority bill
* Deepwater Oil Drilling
June 29, 2006, HR 4761
* 1994 Bill Clinton’s “Tough On Crime” package
* Omnibus Crime Bill
Aug. 21, 1994, HR 3355
* Anti-Crime bill,
Feb. 14, 1995, HR 728
* 1996, Bill Clinton’s Anti-Terrorsm and Effective Death Penalty Act
https://www.govtrack.us/congre…
* Juvenile Crime bill,
May 8, 1997, HR 3
* Telecommunications Bill,
Feb. 1, 1996, S 652
* Both versions of Clinton’s Comprehensive Terrorism Prevention Act (Precursor to USA PATRIOT Act)
April 18, 1996, S 735
Antiterrorism bill,
March 14, 1996, HR 2703
* Bill Clinton’s Defense of Marriage Act
July 12, 1996, HR 3396
* Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Act
July 18, 1996, HR 3734
* Bill Clinton’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
Sept. 29, 1993, H Amdt 318
Michael Huntherz
Well-Known Member
There is literally no evidence to support these assertions. You are a parrot of conservative cable news. Boo!
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry to inform you, but I very rarely watch television.
Also, are you saying that if a person improves their home the property taxes will go up or down ?