Don't Make The "Miracle Grow Mistake"

Olive Drab Green

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Hmmm.. not sure how to interpret that exactly..
if it was meant in a genuine manner, than yes, I do feel better.
Now if you were being asinine?
well.. since i'm an optimist i'll just believe it was genuine.

I just want to urge you to do more research on Monsanto.
My primary complaint was that you were advising others to use it.
Everyone needs to stop giving them money.
They are evil.
I'll see if they sell Dr. Earth at Home Depot, but I wish they had soilless. I wish Roots Organic was around.
 

Cyrus420

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Slow release fertilizers aren't necessarily terrible for the plant.

What was your entire process OP? Did you add anything extra?

It's possible the genetics of the plant may of been super sensitive to the soil.

I would like to point out that your plant looks somewhat re vegged with all the smooth leaves without jagged edges. What was your light cycle?
 

greasemonkeymann

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I actually have found recently that I like Dr. Earth's ferts more, though. I've been using HomeGrown for Veg and Flower Girl for flower, omitting Nature's Care. I just use Nature's Care potting mix for its neutrality, availability, and soillessness.

Does that make you feel better, @greasemonkeymann?
http://modernfarmer.com/2014/03/monsantos-good-bad-pr-problem/

http://www.naturalnews.com/037289_Monsanto_corporations_ethics.html

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/04/monsanto-the-most-evil-company-in-the-universe-heres-why/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/monsanto-most-evil-corporation-world-facts-behind-latest-protests-1439373

PLEASE read these.
you seem like a smart enough fellow to get it
 

whitebb2727

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IMG_20160503_133810.jpg IMG_20160410_114903.jpg I got quarts of free samples. Rxgreensolutions advertises here and thier stuff seems pretty legit for a cannabis nutrient company. They also aren't trying to sell you thirty bottles either.

Just contact a few nutrient companies. Most will send samples, some charge for shipping, some don't.
i was joking about the high priced stuff. for a good moment a portion of this thread was bs.

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Semper fi.

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I can show peoe how to save money on filters. I refill with good carbon and rebuild where I can bake them in the oven to refresh. It works and the po po has been within 100 foot of the exhaust. It passed the test.
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whitebb2727

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what about harvesting a haze? iv posted on here a few times with no response, this is sample bud, haze based. viper city from moxie, im not familiar with haze based. trichomes are not really turning except the ones on the leaves, its seems to be making more clear trichomes. all hairs red, no new growth of pistols.
That looks good. Hazes and sativas can be tricky. You may not get much amber. They tend to keep shooting new growth. I would check mid to bottom of the plant to see what it looks like.

Any good haze I've had took 14-16 weeks to flower. Its worth it though. Those long flowering plants normally have a more complex high.
 

whitebb2727

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Slow release fertilizers aren't necessarily terrible for the plant.

What was your entire process OP? Did you add anything extra?

It's possible the genetics of the plant may of been super sensitive to the soil.

I would like to point out that your plant looks somewhat re vegged with all the smooth leaves without jagged edges. What was your light cycle?
Exactly. You are the third to say it. The op said it was from high N.

High N will cause extra leaf in the bud but not that revege look. Maybe a faulty timer.

I got a big bud x ww that I put outdoors after vegging with my autos. It went into flower and stretched and then revegetated. Now it is flowering again. Its going to be a beast.
 
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Alexander Supertramp

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Had severe nitrogen toxicity from slow release Miracle Grow soil 6 weeks into flower. Stunted growth, slow recovery despite flushing twice with pH'd water at twice the pot size.

Now, at 12 weeks flower (84 days), it seems they will never finish. No amber trichomes yet, despite the brown harvest look they have.

How much longer should I give them? I have some high dollar autoflower at 4 weeks flower I would like to get under my bloom T5s!

These plants are bagseed from someone's outdoor grow last year.

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Looks hungry. Not toxic.
 

Cyrus420

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Exactly. You are the third to say it. The op said it was from high N.

High N will cause extra leaf in the bud but not that revege look. Maybe a faulty timer.

I got a big bud x ww that I put outdoors after vegging with my autos. It went into flower and stretched and then revenged. Now it is flowering again. Its going to be a beast.
It revenged? Who suffered the wrath of big bud? lol
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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I accepted the mistake and posted it hre to help others,

How does a plant grow and burn later? They did! Watered when pot was light/dry.

Pay attention to how to grow? Yeah, guess you got it right your first time and every time since? Geeeshz People learn from experience, acknowledging kistakes and asking for advice and suggestions. NOT from being talked down to.

I posted my opinion on MG. I will not use it again when there are so many more and better options.
if there is more and better options why u pick it in the first place?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Had severe nitrogen toxicity from slow release Miracle Grow soil 6 weeks into flower. Stunted growth, slow recovery despite flushing twice with pH'd water at twice the pot size.

Now, at 12 weeks flower (84 days), it seems they will never finish. No amber trichomes yet, despite the brown harvest look they have.

How much longer should I give them? I have some high dollar autoflower at 4 weeks flower I would like to get under my bloom T5s!

These plants are bagseed from someone's outdoor grow last year.

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you have mites or the mother of all thrip damage
nobody else saw that?
Hmmmm....
 

Cannacat

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i mean he will learn from all the mistakes he made, sometimes thats the only way to learn for some people and its nothing wrong with that
I know what you meant, but there's been a valiant effort made to help him learn and he was fairly defensive, to say the least, so I just think maybe you were a tad optimistic in your statement, "You'll learn from this." I don't think this is what he's gonna learn from, I think it's gonna be a long process of doing everything the hard way for him, but maybe I'm a cynic :peace:
 
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