New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

ttystikk

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Generally, anything more then 12hrs of light will interrupt flowering. It's when the plant strarts getting enough light to neutralize the flowering hormone florigen that is produced during the dark period. I've never heard of using it to self pollinate a plant. Interrupting the dark period will only cause herms if they are genetically predisposed, those aren't plants I'd be looking to breed. I'd want stable genetics I'd have to force to self pollinate.
No, this is backwards. Photoperiod plants flower with 11 hours or more of uninterrupted DARKNESS. You can run 36 hours on and 12 off and your plants will flower.

The hormone that tells the plant to flower builds up overnight.
 

WeedFreak78

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No, this is backwards. Photoperiod plants flower with 11 hours or more of uninterrupted DARKNESS. You can run 36 hours on and 12 off and your plants will flower.

The hormone that tells the plant to flower builds up overnight.
I knew they need the long dark period to build up the hormone, but I was under the impression that longer light cycles neutralized it, reverting it to back veg. No? I'm having trouble understanding how a 36/12 cycle would induce flower, based on what i understood.
 

ttystikk

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I knew they need the long dark period to build up the hormone, but I was under the impression that longer light cycles neutralized it, reverting it to back veg. No? I'm having trouble understanding how a 36/12 cycle would induce flower, based on what i understood.
It's the length of uninterrupted darkness.

Otherwise Gaslight timing wouldn't work.
 

Axle4worc

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Watch straight Everclear under the tongue, it's like putting a match out
Nice. I like that kind of stuff. Maybe I will put it in a little spray bottle with mint. I also plan on concentrating it so I need less. It's easy to evaporate off the alcohol if you do it outside.
Anything over 100 proof isn't supposed to be sold in mass. It can be hard to find. Luckily I go to RI on a regular basis, and they have everything. ;)
I price shopped 4 places near me and they all have everclear 190. Maybe the law changed.

Does infusing VG like that work? My buddy just got some no flavor no nicotine 50/50 vg/pg he wants me to mix some concentrate into. He supposed to be looking up settings, he's got a coupe dozen modded vapes to choose from.
It is supposed to work but it takes a month. The important part is the decarboxylation. I also decarboxylated some Kief and I'm going to try that soon for cooking and or vape.
 

Creature1969

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Nice. I like that kind of stuff. Maybe I will put it in a little spray bottle with mint. I also plan on concentrating it so I need less. It's easy to evaporate off the alcohol if you do it outside.


I price shopped 4 places near me and they all have everclear 190. Maybe the law changed.


It is supposed to work but it takes a month. The important part is the decarboxylation. I also decarboxylated some Kief and I'm going to try that soon for cooking and or vape.
Ive got some 200 proof ethanol from the northern maine distilling co. Gonna wash a zip and see what i get. I'll evap about 95% then mix it with PG for some vape juice. I havent had luck getting vg to stay mixed when I messed with some stuff I purchased last year.
I should have plenty to play with in a coupla more weeks.
 

greg nr

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Kappys package store in MA sells everclear bought 4 gals. I think it's way better than 151 for tincture. Gives a much more potent wash
I was told the 151 is much less harsh and is close in terms of extraction. Just give it a bit more time.

Good to hear its available closer to home.. I actually have about a gallon on hand (my wife uses the 195 for limoncello).
 

ttystikk

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I was told the 151 is much less harsh and is close in terms of extraction. Just give it a bit more time.

Good to hear its available closer to home.. I actually have about a gallon on hand (my wife uses the 195 for limoncello).
Oh shit. The local Italian restaurant uses vodka for their limoncello, lol

That wife is definitely a keeper!
 

Axle4worc

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Ive got some 200 proof ethanol from the northern maine distilling co. Gonna wash a zip and see what i get. I'll evap about 95% then mix it with PG for some vape juice. I havent had luck getting vg to stay mixed when I messed with some stuff I purchased last year.
I should have plenty to play with in a coupla more weeks.
Do you de-carb it first?

I have heard that the VG needs special Vape to work properly. I have a lot to learn about vaporizers. So far I have only used the Disposable cartridges from the dispensary. I knew the VG would have to be cut with PG. I've also heard that straight PG could be real harsh.

If vaping does not work, I can flavor it for tincture or just use it in my coffee. Maybe I'll just make a small batch with the cold Everclear extraction method then mix it with PG and VG. Can you suggest a good Vape machine? I think they said the drip kind works best. Tired of spending $25-100 on a smoking device that I only use briefly.
 

Creature1969

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Do you de-carb it first?

I have heard that the VG needs special Vape to work properly. I have a lot to learn about vaporizers. So far I have only used the Disposable cartridges from the dispensary. I knew the VG would have to be cut with PG. I've also heard that straight PG could be real harsh.

If vaping does not work, I can flavor it for tincture or just use it in my coffee. Maybe I'll just make a small batch with the cold Everclear extraction method then mix it with PG and VG. Can you suggest a good Vape machine? I think they said the drip kind works best. Tired of spending $25-100 on a smoking device that I only use briefly.
The big reason people use VG is that it creates a shit-ton of vapor compared to PG. More VG in a mix = more vapor. Straight PG can be a little harsher on the throat but, that's usually dependent on the nicotine level and any added alcohol content. (nicotine has a peppery taste/feel to it). VG also dulls flavor quite a bit compared to PG and its much sweeter tasting by itself. The amount of vapor has no correlation to the affect of vaping.

My issue is mixing. The concoction I made last year mixed VERY well into straight PG with very little heat. It worked incredibly well. It wasn't until I went for more vapor and mixed 10% VG into the mix that I suffered serious separation and couldn't get it to stay blended.

I want to know what they're mixing THC and CBD into for the oils being sold. I know there a few things like PG out there that aren't the best for vaping from a health aspect. ( been studying this stuff for almost 10 years now). I've seen some dude on this forum trying to sell some "special mixture" for making THC ejuice. One of the ingredients they add can cause whats commonly known as popcorn lung if gets to the right temp (which is incredibly low). Another has been deemed likely bad for vaping as it's not meant to be ingested (but it's REALLY good for mixing oils with water, :roll: ).

As far a s a device for weed juice? That's a tough one. I'm not up to date on current new toys. I'm using a couple years old stuff that's on the higher end range of devices for nicotine. Most of what I use has a steep learning curve ( temp, wattage, voltage, and ohms of the coil all matter ) and most smokers can't handle a hit from my device without coughing for an hour. And yes, I'm talking heavy cig smokers coughing their asses off from a hit of juice that tastes like Jolly Rancher watermelon! lol

I'd suggest finding out what disposable tanks people suggest to use as most mixes make a sticky mess of atomizers. When I get to playing around with this stuff more, I'll be able to recommend something. I just can't in good conscience have you going and buying a $100+ worth of vape supplies that would kick ass with nic ejuice but might fail miserably with sticky weed juice.

I may be a pro when it comes to vaping, but I'm a total noob to sticky weed juice.
 

ttystikk

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The big reason people use VG is that it creates a shit-ton of vapor compared to PG. More VG in a mix = more vapor. Straight PG can be a little harsher on the throat but, that's usually dependent on the nicotine level and any added alcohol content. (nicotine has a peppery taste/feel to it). VG also dulls flavor quite a bit compared to PG and its much sweeter tasting by itself. The amount of vapor has no correlation to the affect of vaping.

My issue is mixing. The concoction I made last year mixed VERY well into straight PG with very little heat. It worked incredibly well. It wasn't until I went for more vapor and mixed 10% VG into the mix that I suffered serious separation and couldn't get it to stay blended.

I want to know what they're mixing THC and CBD into for the oils being sold. I know there a few things like PG out there that aren't the best for vaping from a health aspect. ( been studying this stuff for almost 10 years now). I've seen some dude on this forum trying to sell some "special mixture" for making THC ejuice. One of the ingredients they add can cause whats commonly known as popcorn lung if gets to the right temp (which is incredibly low). Another has been deemed likely bad for vaping as it's not meant to be ingested (but it's REALLY good for mixing oils with water, :roll: ).

As far a s a device for weed juice? That's a tough one. I'm not up to date on current new toys. I'm using a couple years old stuff that's on the higher end range of devices for nicotine. Most of what I use has a steep learning curve ( temp, wattage, voltage, and ohms of the coil all matter ) and most smokers can't handle a hit from my device without coughing for an hour. And yes, I'm talking heavy cig smokers coughing their asses off from a hit of juice that tastes like Jolly Rancher watermelon! lol

I'd suggest finding out what disposable tanks people suggest to use as most mixes make a sticky mess of atomizers. When I get to playing around with this stuff more, I'll be able to recommend something. I just can't in good conscience have you going and buying a $100+ worth of vape supplies that would kick ass with nic ejuice but might fail miserably with sticky weed juice.

I may be a pro when it comes to vaping, but I'm a total noob to sticky weed juice.
I just want the cannabinoids and nothing but, thanks. None of the rest of those chemicals strikes me as anything I want in my lungs.
 

Creature1969

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I just want the cannabinoids and nothing but, thanks. None of the rest of those chemicals strikes me as anything I want in my lungs.
If you've ever walked through the pediatrics dept of a hospital, you've already inhaled Propylene glycol. It's in every pill you take, asthma inhalers and vaporizers, fog/smoke machines, dog/cat/human food to prevent freezing, etc.. Might even be better than air as far as health concerns go as it's an anti-bacterial as well. It HAS to be better to ingest than any burning substance, for sure.
VG is still in doubt but hasn't been proven bad yet.
Some of the other chemicals ARE bad without question and I know for a fact some are being used in this industry.

That said, I DO prefer to smoke as vaping has more of an effect like edibles, but I can't smoke in all the places where I can vape discretely.

I do find it amusing that people knowingly and willingly inhale known carcinogens but freak out about a "chemical" like Propylene Glycol that's not caused any harm in decades of use. Cig smokers are the worst of the bunch. Thousands of chemicals added to tobacco including formaldehyde, strychnine and carpet glue but "OMG! PG is a chemical therefor vaping is BAD." Absolutely brilliant.
 

ttystikk

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If you've ever walked through the pediatrics dept of a hospital, you've already inhaled Propylene glycol. It's in every pill you take, asthma inhalers and vaporizers, fog/smoke machines, dog/cat/human food to prevent freezing, etc.. Might even be better than air as far as health concerns go as it's an anti-bacterial as well. It HAS to be better to ingest than any burning substance, for sure.
VG is still in doubt but hasn't been proven bad yet.
Some of the other chemicals ARE bad without question and I know for a fact some are being used in this industry.

That said, I DO prefer to smoke as vaping has more of an effect like edibles, but I can't smoke in all the places where I can vape discretely.

I do find it amusing that people knowingly and willingly inhale known carcinogens but freak out about a "chemical" like Propylene Glycol that's not caused any harm in decades of use. Cig smokers are the worst of the bunch. Thousands of chemicals added to tobacco including formaldehyde, strychnine and carpet glue but "OMG! PG is a chemical therefor vaping is BAD." Absolutely brilliant.
Good points, all of them. I have asthma so I'm trying to be careful.
 

Creature1969

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Exciting times ahead. Can't wait to chop these girls. Still have 2 or more weeks to go.
Auto Amnesia day 79
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Pulled back for size reference. The shelf in back is hanging 6' from the floor. That's a stack of 10 buckets under the soft pot, and the lower right is a Dinafem Blue Kush that's 48" to the floor, same height as the wire shelf next to the buckets. These are large auto's stuffed in a 30"w x 36"d space.
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And to think, I went with autos partially for their smaller size. Coco hempys and COBs ftw! 10' ceiling is a major bonus.

It's certainly not my noob growing skills at play. Most people would cringe at some of the things I do. :bigjoint:
 

JustCallmeMom

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I always bought 151 in Mass, but that was 15 years ago. I hop the border to RI to get my Everclear.
packagestore down the street from me sells everclear. got some last month. If anyone needs some let me know and I will check if they have more.
 
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JustCallmeMom

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New things at moms house (whats new?) Got my 4x2x6 tent, I LOVE IT!! Its the absolute perfect size for right now. Also, I started making a stealth seedling cabinet/nursery from an old broken bureau I had. I'm going to line it with mylar and get my little LED in there with a fan. I am no Tim the ToolmanTaylor, but I do pretty good :-) Will post pics of progress soon. I was going to use my old tent, but its to big for just the 3-4 weeks until they go in big girls tent, and it would be pushing my stealth mode having (2) tents in the apartment. I will try to sell on craigslist or just store it away for now. Also, for my next grow I'm thinking about trying (3) Seedsman Auto Fem WW in different mediums and see what happens:

#1- just FFOF
#2- 1/2 compost/cow manure & 1/2 coir
#3- 1/3 FFOF, 1/3 compost/cow manure & 1/3 coir

I love to experiment.
 

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