Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

[esh dov ets]

feel free to write the communist chinese gov a letter about it

china has only fake communism

 

[Enigma]

Would it be adjusted for higher property values?

New York, Los Angeles, Denver or Miami for instance?

 

[esh dov ets]

Would you accept 2 to 2.5k UBI per month is an acceptable "all in" replacement for welfare in all it's forms?

in other words, would you accept adding an income gap adversely effecting the disabled.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Would it be adjusted for higher property values?

New York, Los Angeles, Denver or Miami for instance?

Let's just call it a baseline for now.

 

[esh dov ets]

Would it be adjusted for higher property values?

New York, Los Angeles, Denver or Miami for instance?

if property was taxed at it's value, the rich would pay more tax. ubi is adjusted to cost of living based on income

 

[esh dov ets]

the rich don't get ubi. the rich have self earning capitol

 

[SneekyNinja]

in other words, would you accept adding an income gap adversely effecting the disabled.

I don't see how the income gap would be much different to now?

I just don't see how it's unreasonable to have all basic needs accounted for with any additional expenditures based on the specific disability accounted for.

I mean we're already talking more than a trillion dollars per year on just the basic UBI I proposed.

 

[SneekyNinja]

the rich don't get ubi. the rich have self earning capitol

Hey hold on now...universal is universal.

The whole point is EVERYONE gets it, otherwise you're just proposing welfare on steroids.

 

[esh dov ets]

you don't take food out of severely poor peoples mouths to feed the medium poor. that money already exists and is ear marked. you tax income over 400,000 and holdings over a billion for that new trillion, or you take some that is earmarked for the military

 

[esh dov ets]

Hey hold on now...universal is universal.

The whole point is EVERYONE gets it, otherwise you're just proposing welfare on steroids.

the rich already get corporate welfare. why are you talking about taking away social security when it's not necessary. why arn't we talking about taking away corporate welfare?

 

[esh dov ets]

give everyone your 2000 but inflation will make that worth less. the disabled stay very poor while everyone else gets help. ow is that ok?

 

[esh dov ets]

people worth over 250,000 a year don't need ubi

 

[esh dov ets]

Hey hold on now...universal is universal.

The whole point is EVERYONE gets it, otherwise you're just proposing welfare on steroids.

you want to give millionaires who get dividends from their millions, more money?

 

[esh dov ets]

how do you get the money?

 

[esh dov ets]

I don't see how the income gap would be much different to now?

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case and point, with you

 

[Enigma]

That won't work.

 

[Enigma]

Competition is the driving force behind our economy.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Over here it is 75%. Sounds like a good deal? But then comes the discrepancy between real inflation and reported inflation. Before you know it, you are earning as much as the guy on the back of the garbage truck.

wow..Garbo's get paid a fortune here. For starters its a govt job (local council) and then due to the early start its mainly on night shift rates. If your getting 75% of that your in heaven.

 

[Lucky Luke]

You want a basic income? Get a basic job.

no argument here.a basic job-non skilled, should provide the basic lifestyle. But it doesnt.

You agree but just dont see it.

 

[esh dov ets]

Competition is the driving force behind our economy.

competition between the disabled? or the lie that competition is a healthy part of capitalism. or that anyone can just compete in a fair game. capitalism is a scam you can't win.