Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends

curly604

curly604

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Kevdogg5555 said:
Curly: no offense but those buds are weak sauce for day 35. Looks to me like week 2, Are you using any flowering nutrient?
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yep haha i got nutes but i had some issues before that kinda stunted the growth of the plant i thought they might die but came back but with a slower rate of growth. ya im not overly excited but im not unimpressed either its like there little bonsai's except for the one and its under the cfls but with the final product only time will tell my freind. i recently got a message saying mine looked great better than his and he was a couple weeks or more past me but thats life for ya also my strain is og kush and ive seen the finished product of the same strain under hps and they were not very big nugs but the potency was through the roof so im excited to see how this stuff turns out.
 
puffenuff

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Just saw a headline from the led company I buy from that they are releasing a new line of lights within the next month or two. They've upgraded their 3w panels with new housings, heat sinks, leds, and lenses. I must say that im very excited because their current generation lights are still top of the line compared to the competition, and with these upgrades they're looking to blow everyone out of the water. Can't wait to get my hands on what should be the next evolution in led technology.
 
hoss12781

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I guess it begs the question - what company (and how much stock do you own in it). I'm just fuckin around but your post does read like an ad.
 
puffenuff

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Excitement plus being a professional writer helps make it sound like an ad I guess! But no, I don't have any stake in the company other than wanting them to stay in business in case I ever need to take advantage of my warranty! haha, the company is Advancedledlights.com. I tell everyone about them because of the great results I've been experiencing with their products and the way they do business is very customer friendly. By far the best experience I've had dealing with LED companies. And when I went to purchase a second light yesterday, I saw the article they just posted about their new line of lights they will be releasing soon and decided I should wait for those and see how much better they are than the light I am currently using and completely satisfied with at the moment -- but I'm always looking for the next best thing, and I'm hoping this will be it.
 
wyteberrywidow

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Alright so if looks like I will go with a bigger system to start which makes me say I will get one in a month or so.after all the research I don't see no flower model under 400 bucks that can out perform a 400 hps or cmh the system they do show that will outperform cost way too much IMO. With 400 I can buy a digital 600 with vent system yield way more and the harvest alone will make up the extra cost since the 600 I can easily get 12-16 oz and a wider coverage area then s model at
Most u can fit is 6 plants.

Honestly the only grow ive seen that's perfect really is irishboy who is getting the led for free since he documents q journal on it
 
newworldicon

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wyteberrywidow said:
Alright so if looks like I will go with a bigger system to start which makes me say I will get one in a month or so.after all the research I don't see no flower model under 400 bucks that can out perform a 400 hps or cmh the system they do show that will outperform cost way too much IMO. With 400 I can buy a digital 600 with vent system yield way more and the harvest alone will make up the extra cost since the 600 I can easily get 12-16 oz and a wider coverage area then s model at
Most u can fit is 6 plants.

Honestly the only grow ive seen that's perfect really is irishboy who is getting the led for free since he documents q journal on it
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Bit unfair to make the accusation, who cares if he paid for them or got them free, it has zero bearing on the issue. If you see his journals you see good results, did he choose to do a better job because he got the lights for free????

Besides I doubt they were free, he might have got a nice discount and now has the options of swopping out units as he see's fit. Why don't you just ask him, I'm sure he will answer you honestly, he is a nice guy afterall.

Let me ask you this, if you are so unsure why do you bother then, but let's be honest here, you keep checking them out so it is clear you want them to work and you want one so the bottom line is you can ask opinions till you are blue in the face or you can just buy one. And remember, once you get one then you will have to deal with the task of dialling them in for your grow, even more fun my friend.
 
wyteberrywidow

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Yeah in his last journal he said he got them for free and is showing it on his thread.

I want one because right now heat is a killer so yes I want it to work and like I stated before I want to try something new but I also said I do not want spend anywhere close to 500-600 bucks for something my 400 watt can do. That's my only thing as I'm checking this site and others I barely see people who spend that much outperform a 400 and in some cases a 250 watt. I really do want to give led a shot but from what you told me it's not for my space I have 2 grow tents a 4x4x7 and a 3x3x5 and to have a good led light in there it will cost close to a 1000.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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wyteberrywidow said:
Yeah in his last journal he said he got them for free and is showing it on his thread.

I want one because right now heat is a killer so yes I want it to work and like I stated before I want to try something new but I also said I do not want spend anywhere close to 500-600 bucks for something my 400 watt can do. That's my only thing as I'm checking this site and others I barely see people who spend that much outperform a 400 and in some cases a 250 watt. I really do want to give led a shot but from what you told me it's not for my space I have 2 grow tents a 4x4x7 and a 3x3x5 and to have a good led light in there it will cost close to a 1000.
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I hear you, if money is tight it's not best not to be spending the kids dinner money. I am about to upload pics for the 5 plants under the 550W. I am satisfied that this will be a more successful grow without the hick ups of the rockwool. why not follow the thread for the haul and then make the decision down the line. I am sure you can go another summer with the heat and HPS for your needs.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/449580-550w-led-vs-5-plants.html#post5998963
 
Canon

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LED may very well be the way of the future,,, but the future is not here yet.
From my test (and expense),,,, not yet.
Definately has potential,, but simply the mix is not yet working for me. HPS still rules. However, CMH is a hard challenger. LED may be 4th choice. Yes, I put CFL ahead for trichs development and actual felt / smelt satisfaction for me and others.
VERY possible I'm nort up to snuff on the differences of LED,, basicly, in the same boat as others though.
Promising,, just not there yet.
 
curly604

curly604

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Canon said:
LED may very well be the way of the future,,, but the future is not here yet.
From my test (and expense),,,, not yet.
Definately has potential,, but simply the mix is not yet working for me. HPS still rules. However, CMH is a hard challenger. LED may be 4th choice. Yes, I put CFL ahead for trichs development and actual felt / smelt satisfaction for me and others.
VERY possible I'm nort up to snuff on the differences of LED,, basicly, in the same boat as others though.
Promising,, just not there yet.
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:shock: cfl's before leds?????? you have been lookin at the wrong setups my friend maybe shitty led vs monster cfl's but still i wouldnt put money on cfl's anywhere good for house lighting haha or maybe mix with led or hps but not above or even close to either in my opinion
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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curly604 said:
:shock: cfl's before leds?????? you have been lookin at the wrong setups my friend maybe shitty led vs monster cfl's but still i wouldnt put money on cfl's anywhere good for house lighting haha or maybe mix with led or hps but not above or even close to either in my opinion
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He can express his opinion all he wants but I started out with 8x250W HO CFL's so I know the difference ;-)
 
Canon

Canon

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Reson I'd pick CFL's is the bang for the buck plus diversity / control.
LED's are not cheap. Also not as simple as picking anyone off a shelf.

HPS / MH readily available, cheap, wide variety of bulb choices, assotrment of hoods, etc.

CFL's increase as you grow (if desired), easy positioning, hoods can be made or bought, easily found in dime stores, when it's spent, simply replace it.

LED's expensive, set light patern (not adjustable by hood design), When a couple LEDs blow in the cluster it's not easily worked on, All the venders seem to be compulsive liars (like a politician), expensive, Like with computers - there's new and improved almost everyday (this leads me to think they're just not ready). And,, there's just something about a man and his pink lights that just doesn't seem right - LOL.

That's just simply how I feel about them (right or wrong).
 
hoss12781

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True but if you have a three year warranty on your led light, which any company selling legit horticultural leds offers if the diodes do blow you get them replaced and are out minimal shipping charges. HPS/MH ballasts do fail and within three years you'll def have to replace a bulb at least one (probably twice to maintain max lumen coverage). That being said if you're using hortilux or comparable bulbs that'll easily run you $100 usd a pop, if not more. After all is said and done with a nice 400W or 600W air cooled set up over three years it does cost slightly more to run LED, but not really that much more when power savings are factored in.

In terms of easy positioning, I've got two 180w Pro Grows, a POS UFO 90w from Led Wholesalers, and just picked up a 250w pro grow so I'm working with a fairly modular set up. For almost zero heat and a 3 year warranty (except for the UFO) I'm set for the next three years and spent roughly around $750 bucks for the entire set up. I did however manage to score some pretty absurd discounts on Ebay before Hydro Hut stopped selling their units there. When I looked at the cost of maintaining two 400w hps units, extra power consumption, heat issues in a smaller grow space, ect this option made sense. I just had to hone my Ebay ninja skills and DO PROPER RESEARCH before I pulled the trigger. There are way too many assholes out there that are making a quick buck and making this tech look bad.

This, of course, is just my opinion. I started using a lot of 105w CFLS, then went to HID, and have now removed all CFL and HID from my set up. CFLS and HID also contain mercury which isn't exactly safe.
 
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wyteberrywidow said:
Yeah in his last journal he said he got them for free and is showing it on his thread.

I want one because right now heat is a killer so yes I want it to work and like I stated before I want to try something new but I also said I do not want spend anywhere close to 500-600 bucks for something my 400 watt can do. That's my only thing as I'm checking this site and others I barely see people who spend that much outperform a 400 and in some cases a 250 watt. I really do want to give led a shot but from what you told me it's not for my space I have 2 grow tents a 4x4x7 and a 3x3x5 and to have a good led light in there it will cost close to a 1000.
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I just wanted to make sure you had the right idea on how little heat they put out. *be sure you don't need all that heat in the winter, some growers found LED doesn't make enough heat for the cold winters

My 395w GLH seems to make less than 20% as much heat as my 400w digital HPS system. It would seem watt for watt these LEDs produce ~20% or less as much heat as HPS. That and if you believe many of us that it would seem you could replace an HPS system with half the wattage in these LED panels (unless it was a big 1000w HPS 4x4 tray which would need at least 2 good LEDs to replace). So for about $500 or $700-800 if you're doubtful, you could replace a 400w HPS system with about half as many watts and WAY THE FUCK less heat.

Its still expensive watt for watt upfront buying an LED system compared to an HPS, but I think its absolutely worth it if it makes the difference between running air conditioning, growing more months in the year, way lower temps, better light, probable higher quality product, less watts, etc I recommend GLH and Blackstar the most, though there are definitely several other good ones (*where the hell did I put that list? I really need to organize my notes and start memorizing things)
 
Canon

Canon

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As much as I say against LEDs for me and my uses,,, I have high expectations that someday they will be the "Beats all". Just not yet.
Low power, low heat, simplicity of installation / moving and all is why I keep watching.
I'm gonna give it another 5-10 yrs. probably before I try them again.

Tried a 180 UFO Lighthouse with the 6 band flower mod. Comparing that to my 250 HPS (seperately in a 2X2 ft area) HPS was significantly a better grow. This was with clones from same original mother, grow the same way.
At the time, the Lighthouse was said to be one of the better for small grows. Not the best but better than middle. Funny, Was listed as "New for 2011",,, I don't see them available anymore(?). Guess maybe they were not as good as reviews said....

That was just for testing. If it faired better I would of jumped on some bigger / better for a new grow room. Glad I tried a smaller first. :-(

While VERY appealing,,, was quit a letdown in the end.
 
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