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ttystikk said:

So maybe a good first step would be to stop voting for the right wingnuts who push these policies.

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the left also votes for them as well as you see in my above post.

I've been telling you guys their is very little difference in either party.
Like right now the Dems are starting to turn on Antifa with Pelosi saying they are actually fascists.

ttystikk said:

So maybe a good first step would be to stop voting for the right wingnuts who push these policies.

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Hillary would be much worse than any other person running for either party. I have a friend that knows the Clinton family, my best friend works in washington for one of the agencies their. I know someone else that has known Trump for a while. My best friends dad knew Janet Reno.


What I am saying is that you guys know absolutely nothing about Hillary and how she is. 90% of the Dems and Rep belong to their own party and rarely do they rep the people they represent.
I do know that Bill Clinton's side of the family did not even vote for Hillary that is how bad she is.

Greenthumbskunk said:

Hillary would be much worse than any other person running for either party. I have a friend that knows the Clinton family, my best friend works in washington for one of the agencies their. I know someone else that has known Trump for a while. My best friends dad knew Janet Reno.


What I am saying is that you guys know absolutely nothing about Hillary and how she is. 90% of the Dems and Rep belong to their own party and rarely do they rep the people they represent.
I do know that Bill Clinton's side of the family did not even vote for Hillary that is how bad she is.

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Don't look for me to defend her.

I'm voting much farther to the left.

I sort of remember...
This was a "gift" from the Army to any local government agency that wanted one(they were used in a war zone).

Ferguson happened where the police looked more like an occupying military force than police.
This pic surfaced.
A few more protests where the police used bootjack methods to put them down, happened.
Obama stopped the program and took back most of the tanks given to local governments(not all...).

jeepster1993 said:

I sort of remember...
This was a "gift" from the Army to any local government agency that wanted one(they were used in a war zone).

Ferguson happened where the police looked more like an occupying military force than police.
This pic surfaced.
A few more protests where the police used bootjack methods to put them down, happened.
Obama stopped the program and took back most of the tanks given to local governments(not all...).

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And now the Chump has reinstated giving military hardware to 'civilian' police departments.

Gotta keep those freedom loving citizens in line...

ttystikk said:

Don't look for me to defend her.

I'm voting much farther to the left.

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Nah you ain't really that far to the left, only slightly closer to center fiscally but actually to the right socially.

abandonconflict said:

Nah you ain't really that far to the left, only slightly closer to center fiscally but actually to the right socially.

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You're a very confused little wannabe revolutionary.

ttystikk said:

You're a very confused little wannabe revolutionary.

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Sounds like something a Trumptard would say.

abandonconflict said:

Sounds like something a Trumptard would say.

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You don't know your left from your right.

You're sounding more retarded every day.

ttystikk said:

You don't know your left from your right.

You're sounding more retarded every day.

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You're the mouthbreather who thinks Bernie the shitstain imperialist is socialist. I mean at least learn to project better.

abandonconflict said:

You're the mouthbreather who thinks Bernie the shitstain imperialist is socialist. I mean at least learn to project better.

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You follow me around like a lost puppy.

I own real estate in your head.

Too bad it isn't worth anything.

ttystikk said:

You follow me around like a lost puppy.

I own real estate in your head.

Too bad it isn't worth anything.

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That's cool but do you have a retort or just this shit? I mean getting upset and insulting me is not an argument, it's not even really a good insult, it's just lame.

abandonconflict said:

That's cool but do you have a retort or just this shit? I mean getting upset and insulting me is not an argument, it's not even really a good insult, it's just lame.

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This from the puppy following me around to piss on my foot? Please.

You have no answers, just inanity.

Looks like I own a LOT of real estate in your head.

So yeah, Bernard is really not a leftist at all. Some of his policies veer slightly left of center but mostly, they are slightly to the right.

He does not in any capacity advocate any diminution of privatization in regards to economics. He therefore is a capitalist liberal. He is not a leftist. Then consider some of the social positions of his followers and their aversion to acknowledging minority struggles for equality, their pattern of being offended by idpol and you have just another group of fake ass leftists.

abandonconflict said:

So yeah, Bernard is really not a leftist at all. Some of his policies veer slightly left of center but mostly, they are slightly to the right.

He does not in any capacity advocate any diminution of privatization in regards to economics. He therefore is a capitalist liberal. He is not a leftist. Then consider some of the social positions of his followers and their aversion to acknowledging minority struggles for equality, their pattern of being offended by idpol and you have just another group of fake ass leftists.

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Now this is more like it.

You're right about Bernie not being a leftist. He's a centrist, which as I've been saying for years now is still very far too the left of either the Republicans or the establishment Democrats.

Idpol is the favored tool of both of the above parties, the better to distract the masses from his belly they're being screwed by those who claim to represent them but in reality do anything but. Bernie has worked to focus on the issues and has done a better job than most...

Which is why short-sighted critics accuse him of bring tone deaf to minority issues where in fact he's driving to the heart of racial inequities by addressing economic issues. He doesn't say the other social issues aren't important, he says that the economic issues are also important and aren't being addressed.

Bernie isn't perfect. No one is. But he's a damned sight better than anyone else in the running right now. No one is working harder to bring more people of like mind into the political spotlight than he is, and that's likely to be his legacy at this point.

ttystikk said:

Now this is more like it.

You're right about Bernie not being a leftist.

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tl;dr

This will suffice. Just admit my arguments are better and shut up. I don't need the minutiae about it. I already know I'm right. I don't need you to try to lecture me on the nuances. You're the mouthbreather projecting about others not knowing right from left. You're one of the biggest "lefter than thou" fake progressives celebrating Trump's election.

ttystikk said:

Now this is more like it.

You're right about Bernie not being a leftist. He's a centrist, which as I've been saying for years now is still very far too the left of either the Republicans or the establishment Democrats.

Idpol is the favored tool of both of the above parties, the better to distract the masses from his belly they're being screwed by those who claim to represent them but in reality do anything but. Bernie has worked to focus on the issues and has done a better job than most...

Which is why short-sighted critics accuse him of bring tone deaf to minority issues where in fact he's driving to the heart of racial inequities by addressing economic issues. He doesn't say the other social issues aren't important, he says that the economic issues are also important and aren't being addressed.

Bernie isn't perfect. No one is. But he's a damned sight better than anyone else in the running right now. No one is working harder to bring more people of like mind into the political spotlight than he is, and that's likely to be his legacy at this point.

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Bernie on minority and other issues:

"people are tired of political correctness rhetoric", Benie Sanders, Dec. 2016
"I'll work with people who are anti choice". Women's reproductive rights are negotiable if Bernie gets what I want.
"Universal Health care is not a litmus test"; Bernie bros still believe it is. They aren't listening to what he really is saying
"Kick social justice warriors to the curb"; Ok, so Bernie didn't say that. It IS rhetoric coming from your bros.

Economic issues don't address issues of the Black Lives Matter movement. Nor do they address the issue of racism in the work force where African Americans, Hispanic Americans and women are paid 20% less than men. Kicking social justice warriors to the curb is all about making uncivil speech and actions against minorities and women acceptable.

Bernie isn't running for an office right now, by the way. He is pumping up for a run for the WH and it's not anything like your imagined movement. He's better than Trump.

Fogdog said:

Bernie on minority and other issues:

"people are tired of political correctness rhetoric", Benie Sanders, Dec. 2016
"I'll work with people who are anti choice". Women's reproductive rights are negotiable if Bernie gets what I want.
"Universal Health care is not a litmus test"; Bernie bros still believe it is. They aren't listening to what he really is saying
"Kick social justice warriors to the curb"; Ok, so Bernie didn't say that. It IS rhetoric coming from your bros.

Economic issues don't address issues of the Black Lives Matter movement. Nor do they address the issue of racism in the work force where African Americans, Hispanic Americans and women are paid 20% less than men. Kicking social justice warriors to the curb is all about making uncivil speech and actions against minorities and women acceptable.

Bernie isn't running for an office right now, by the way. He is pumping up for a run for the WH and it's not anything like your imagined movement. He's better than Trump.

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I don't know where you get your crazy ideas but they don't describe the reality I see.

Bernie's election would be a huge step in the right direction for this country.

Nah, First off, there was never time, even for a moment, when he was ever going to actually get elected. If he had intended to, he would have ran independent or Green. He CHOSE to be a Democrat in order to "push policy" but all he's accomplished was to cripple the DNC even though his acolytes were pushing the narrative that the party had sabotaged his campaign. So he endorsed Clinton. The point is, no, there was never a time when Bernard would have made a good president, because he obviously never intended to run. That should not be such a shocker, considering he never did run for president in a general election. Furthermore, nah, he would not have gotten shit done as potus.

I think a more believable scenario would be that if he'd gotten elected, he would be a Jimmy Carter at best and the alt-right rallies would be calling themselves protests while actually influencing GOP policy. In short, such an election would have been an even bigger disaster for left-coalition building than his sheepdog campaign already was.

You keep bringing up these quotes like you've really stumbled upon something earth shattering...

Fogdog said:

Bernie on minority and other issues:

"people are tired of political correctness rhetoric", Benie Sanders, Dec. 2016

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This is true. Myself included. People are tired of politicians saying shit, and taking stances on issues based on focus group results instead of speaking their mind. This is a major reason why Hillary lost. She's as phony as a 3 dollar bill. And since when did "political correctness" exclusively relate to minority issues?? People can be politically correct on a whole host of topics.

Fogdog said:

"I'll work with people who are anti choice". Women's reproductive rights are negotiable if Bernie gets what I want.

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And? Should he only work with other members of congress who think exactly like him? If a pro life, Republican senator wanted to co sponsor a bill with Bernie that protects our lakes/rivers/oceans, should he tell that senator to go kick rocks because they disagree on reproductive rights? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Fogdog said:

"Universal Health care is not a litmus test"; Bernie bros still believe it is. They aren't listening to what he really is saying

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It was what, one month ago, that you and the rest of the ball washers were running around the forum with your hair on fire hollering about how the "Bernie babies" had some sort of litmus, or purity test for candidates....and now you're being critical of Bernie for not having a litmus test? lol

You make some fair points Foggy, but this recent kick of yours is empty, and silly. You voted for the guy over Hillary, so clearly you like what he's laying down. At the same time you're fearful of ailientaing the ball washers, so you twist yourself in to a pretzel trying to stay in their good graces. It's like watching a Monty Python skit from the reject bin.