So what's the alternative.. Keep the status quo, do not collect revenue and continue to waste resources enforcing prohibition? That's what the other party's wanted to do. In 15 months, every Canadian adult can grow, possess and consume cannabis legally. I'm not a Trudeau fan either, and I don't expect the Liberals to get legalization right at first, but it's a damn sight better than doing nothing, or in the case of conservative governments, going backwards. As for using tax revenue to fund drug treatment...tobacco and alcohol are both heavily taxed because of the related health costs...so it's a very old 'public health joke'.
Ever hear the term decriminalization? With Trudeau's "legalization" he intends to make penalties WORSE for those who grow enough to be worthwhile. Yes, you can have up to 30 g of weed on you and skate, but is a simple fine that much worse? And you'll be able to grow 4 plants. We can already grow up to 7 and get a slap on the wrist. How is being cut back to 4 an improvement? 4 plants is a fucking joke.
Your argument makes no sense and the scenarios you talk about are merely your predictions. Decriminalization is just about making pot smokers ATM's for police forces. That is worse than what we have now, at least with a criminal charge I can fight my case in court. With decrim, you are just guilty. Also, decrim covers possession not cultivation. Where in Canada is growing 7 plants legal? What are the penalties going to be for growing over 4 legal plants...and how is that worse? I'm not sure what the limit is for tobacco possession, but most provinces have laws limiting out of province smokes to 1 carton per person, so it's not as wide open as you think. You cite a double standard on penalties for weed vs. tobacco, but we don't know what the penalties will be or how strict they will be enforced. You are calling out legalization as some evil thing when we have yet to learn the details. Does that make sense to you?
They already admitted that they will be increasing the penalties for growers without a Govt license. They use the words "strict regulation of access". That means they want to control even the use of weed, that's how dictatorial they are. Only problem is, they already have even stricter regs that don't even allow any access at all and they haven't deterred shit. That's how stupid they are. Anyway they can do whatever they want, doesn't really matter. They'll just be completely ignored as usual and there will be even more weed on the streets and in the elementary schools than ever. Suppose you live in a rural area where there is little supply. Well, Trudeau will remedy that. They'll deliver it right to them, from the greehouse in Ontario. The one of the group with an 18 year old brother will supply the buyer, just like with alcohol now. No kids ever get alcohol, huh?
Yeah...I think I'll wait until we see the details and how it plays out before I jump all over imaginary evils. There are strict access regulations around booze and smokes so I'm guessing if that's what you call dictatorial, you can expect more of the same. I don't have any barriers to buying either one.
Except it would have to be done before summer, not by the end of it. As parliament breaks for summer meaning everything is tabled until things resume in the fall, leaving them far less time
Please stop replying to me. I think you're either a nut or mentally challenged. Whatever the case, I have no interest in anything you have to say really. You just don't make any good points. You're just rambling the same shit over and over. I don't know why you're so in favor of Trudeau and his shit but it tells me you're nobody I have any interest in associating with or trying to talk sense into. You're apparently a hopeless case and a Trudeau shill.Yeah...I think I'll wait until we see the details and how it plays out before I jump all over imaginary evils. There are strict access regulations around booze and smokes so I'm guessing if that's what you call dictatorial, you can expect more of the same. I don't have any barriers to buying either one.
You complain that Trudeau is going to "deliver kids weed quickly and conveniently" and in the next sentence predict the penalty for selling to kids will be "more draconian". And in the very next sentence you question why it's even illegal to sell to kids...wtf?
If you want to get into the legal market, there will be opportunities according to the report. Like any other business, that will mean having the means to finance it and abiding by regulations and paying taxes. Just like the moonshiner's at the end of prohibition, the majority of bm grower's will go legit or just fade away. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen. Sucks for those who have made a living on the black market, but all good things come to an end. Time to go legit... the only competition is the LP's, so it should be a no brainer.
Anyway, you said it doesn't matter, so let's sit back a watch the magic unfold and we'll meet up here on July 2, 2018 and compare notes.
No fucking problem Dickweed. Go fuck yourself.
and they know it,,, They wont say shit bout mmar but you can bet your rats as they wi lhave things to say about AMCPR 
See what I mean, viewers? No good points whatsoever.
Heres hoping they go at people Hard and the people will react BACK HARDER!!! Forcing change! WE DID!!!Yeah...I think I'll wait until we see the details and how it plays out before I jump all over imaginary evils. There are strict access regulations around booze and smokes so I'm guessing if that's what you call dictatorial, you can expect more of the same. I don't have any barriers to buying either one.
You complain that Trudeau is going to "deliver kids weed quickly and conveniently" and in the next sentence predict the penalty for selling to kids will be "more draconian". And in the very next sentence you question why it's even illegal to sell to kids...wtf?
If you want to get into the legal market, there will be opportunities according to the report. Like any other business, that will mean having the means to finance it and abiding by regulations and paying taxes. Just like the moonshiner's at the end of prohibition, the majority of bm grower's will go legit or just fade away. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen. Sucks for those who have made a living on the black market, but all good things come to an end. Time to go legit... the only competition is the LP's, so it should be a no brainer.
Anyway, you said it doesn't matter, so let's sit back a watch the magic unfold and we'll meet up here on July 2, 2018 and compare notes.
I'm convinced the Chumpster Fuhrer will see at least two years of his term, mostly because the Republican Party is blissfully unburdened by anything resembling a sense of ethics or morality when it comes to their own activities.
Don't mind Bob, he's a little bent out of shape given the gymnastics performed to be habitually contrarian.
I made lots of valid points..you chose to ignore them.
Your argument yesterday was that the US would somehow determine Canadian law or punish us at the border....today you say Canada post will just mail it there for you to sell for profit. Legalization is not going to lead to increased cross border smuggling... Canadians are growing it for free right now. Using your logic, that's a really good incentive to start a cross border smuggling operation, except that hasn't happened. Black market weed here is $5 - $8/g on the street and has been for many years so the $10 LP weed increases the price by 50%. If there was an incentive to smuggle, it decreases with legalization. Kinda blows that theory,eh?
Alright, I'll reply to you, since I'm not doing anything better at the moment. So you say that Trudeau will make his price 25-50% higher than street prices. Okay, so why the fuck would anybody go into a store? Just like throwing money away? See you didn't comprehend my post. As I said, either way he'll lose. If his prices are higher than street then he obviously won't be able to compete. If his prices are lower then nobody will have to grow it themselves to make a profit, just buy it from the store and resell it on the street.