100% Raw Honey

T macc

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People say to use unsulphured molasses to get 20% more yield. So today I was going through my cabinet looking for something to eat, and I came across some honey. So anyways, it says Unblended, Unfiltered, Undiluted. And that it's 100% pure, Natural, Uncooked Honey


Do you think it would work as good as molasses??

And thanks in advance :leaf:
 

UnKlE SaM

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good (possibly bettter) carboload but dosent contain the minerals and macro nutrients

but yes your plants will likey very much!
 

born2killspam

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Even table sugar would be effective, or on the other side of the coin, water that had potatos boiled in it.. The bonus with molasses is that it doesn't attract bugs like other forms of sugar/carbs.. It even repels some things
 

born2killspam

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Vitamins and carbs for the soil microbes, same as molasses.. Options are endless, some are better than others for sanitary/odour reasons..
 

born2killspam

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Meats aren't used in compost because of the bacterial danger.. You'll likely end up with salmonella and be too nauseous and weak to tend the plants..
 

crazy7605150

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well last night while boiling it seemed good but then the more and more that i thought about it it wouldnt be good... well end up smelly, prob to much salt in the water, and cuz bugs and animals might be attracted.... i guess maybe ill stick with vegi water or reg water for them
 

crazy7605150

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and what about fish emulsion i heard that that pretty much is old nasty fish that have become liquid and blended basicly...? thats meat.. or if u place a dead animal in the ground and put a plant abouve it, it would be benificial.
 

born2killspam

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Veggie water is good.. Fish emulsion is already processed.. I wouldn't advise trying to make your own.. Same goes for blood and bone meal..
 

CrackerJax

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It depends..... Honey has amazing properties and is the only known food that absolutely will not spoil. That's a mighty impressive trophy on a tall mantle.

If your honey is a golden color, then it has been filtered. It may still be natural, organic, etc...but it has been processed. What you want is raw unprocessed wild honey. It looks EXACTLY like molasses.....very dark and musty (I love it), That will have the goodness of molasses for your plants, but not the light stuff. :peace:
 

born2killspam

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Wal writes ...
Bees collect nectar, which is mainly sucrose and 40-80% water. They process this using the enzyme invertase, and by evaporation into a product containing 18-20% water we know as honey:
Water 18%
Fructose 38%
Glucose 33%
Sucrose 1.5%
Maltose 7.2%
Higher sugars 1.5%
Minerals 0.2%
Total acid (as gluconic acid) 0.6% (pH 3.9)

Mock Honey. Not to be outdone by bees, we can also process granular sucrose to make a home-made 'honey'. Here is a mock-honey recipe (a form of invert sugar syrup), based on the above, using 4 units of granulated sugar to 1 unit of water:
2000g raw sugar (say 8 heaped cups). For a darker color substitute with soft brown sugar (1 cup)
5tbsp. malt extract (maltose)
500ml water (say 2 cups)
6g or 1tsp. acid (a mixture of various - tartaric, citric) or juice of 2 lemons. A pH of 3.6 is equivalent to 6g of citric acid/litre or 1tsp.
Boil water, add acid and sugar and simmer for 15 minutes. Cool. When cool add 1tbsp raw sugar (sucrose). This produces about 1 litre of mock-honey syrup. SG of honey is 1.5kg/l.

You could infuse dried flowers (camomile, roses, citrus flowers) to provide a floral aroma. If you are making a heavily spiced mead, and you want to save money, the recipe is appropriate.

For low technology brewing techniques using honey, as still practised in East Africa, see "Honey Beer" http://www.fao.org/docrep/w0076e/w0076e08.htm
For brewing using honey as practised in Medieval times, see "A Guide to Mead" http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/articles/guide_to_mead.html.

"Spirit of Honey", distilled from a honey mash, consisting of 1 part honey to 5 parts water is mentioned in "Delightes for Ladies" by Sir Hugh Plat, 1609

Vikings made mead and sometimes added honey to malt when making ale. In Tudor times a mixture of honey and ale fermented together and spiced with pepper was called 'braggot'. Prior to hops the herbs (gruit) used to flavor ale included bog myrtle, rosemary, yarrow, alecost.
Here's a little info on honey from the guys at homedistiller.org.. I gotta agree with CJ on different types of honey though.. Processed honey requires alot of additional yeast nutrient to get a nice violent ferment, but the mennonite stuff is a whole different story!
Effectiveness as a yeast nutrient is a pretty decent indicator of effectiveness as a soil loader IMO..
 

T macc

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It depends..... Honey has amazing properties and is the only known food that absolutely will not spoil. That's a mighty impressive trophy on a tall mantle.

If your honey is a golden color, then it has been filtered. It may still be natural, organic, etc...but it has been processed. What you want is raw unprocessed wild honey. It looks EXACTLY like molasses.....very dark and musty (I love it), That will have the goodness of molasses for your plants, but not the light stuff. :peace:

This is exactly what it is. I'm not sure what molasses looks like, but the honey i got is a dark brown color and it smells pretty foul. lol
 

CrackerJax

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yes, I was referring to wild honey..... the darker it is, the better. I use the black stuff for any cuts I acquire. It keeps the wound moist so it doesn't scab up, and the honey produces hydrogen peroxide when it comes in contact with a wound. Works every time and never scars... :wink: I always have a jug of the stuff.
 
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