1000watt hps vs. 220 watt CFL ROFL

1982grower said:

I will outyield a 430 hps with 430 flouros anyday and everyone here has seen my setup. call me a liar but i'll get a pound off of less than 450 total system watts and thats every 47 days including pump power fan lights everything under 450 and i'll get 16 ounces off 16 plants read my journal.

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my next grow ill show you 26oz grown under a 600w NFT 27 plants 1 plant evey 6" thats 750g or 1.25g per watt plants will have 3 days veg under 220w CFL then filp to 12/12

your plants under hid won't look like this in 17 days. They will be slightly behind. my par and lumens and specrum are matched perfectly. hps cannot do this. 3 6500k, 3 10000k, 2 420nm actinics

brandons420 said:

Thats what I thought NIGGER!

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soo many stupid raciest kids on Rolliup that think they know what they're talking about. IMO, If you have a 1000watt HPS, 24 plants, and your only getting an ounce a plant? thats terrible, I use cfls the whole way through and get 2 to 2.5 ounces on average per plant. And I only have 6 growing.
By the way, Its real easy for you ppl to sit behind the computer and type these words, it also shows the type of person you are. Your a Bitch plain and simple.

how do you think a 300w LED light would compare to the cfl

There was no attacking you for your grow its ment more for the people that want to argue the efficiency of watts that is way far from equal.. Its not only unequal in lumens its also a completely dfferent band of color temperature... Sorry not to offend you I gave you respect for your plants. Im just tired of reading over and over the effectiveness of cfl compared to HPS.. If your gonna compare apples to apples compare 250 watts of hps and 250 watts of CFL...regardless of pattern of light separation upon reflection and all that bullshit... Compare the intensity and usable light they produce not the watts... Any monkey with no fear of getting caught up would choose the 1000 watt with 47 plants... I enjoy the 250 hps and the 250 in flouro and cfl.. The proof of efficiency should be the time it took to grow and whether or not that two ounces of killer shit knocks your girlfriends head off...My shitty one grow net dry was over an O and tasted marvelous... now that im getting comfortable with CFL ill grow 10-20 but its gotta be the right conditions the right fertalizers and enough tlc.....

1982grower said:

your plants under hid won't look like this in 17 days. They will be slightly behind. my par and lumens and specrum are matched perfectly. hps cannot do this. 3 6500k, 3 10000k, 2 420nm actinics

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may be they wont? but i know your plant will not look like this after 38 days

1982grower said:

your plants under hid won't look like this in 17 days. They will be slightly behind. my par and lumens and specrum are matched perfectly. hps cannot do this. 3 6500k, 3 10000k, 2 420nm actinics

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Thats some nice CFL love right there thanks for sharing and I agree ten fold the light pattern and color temp is way improved.. If they only had the intensity at that low wattage people wouldnt say shit... But the core to my angre is the density from hps.. havent gotten there yet with cfl..

9inch bigbud said:

where am i compearing a 1000w to a 220w CFL? there is no photo to compare my 1000w HPS. the stupid post that clames that a 220w CFL 4'x4' floor plan, superior to 400w HPS

i showed a pic of what you can do with a 1000w HPS with 3 days veg. I then asked for someone to show a pic of what a CFL grow can do link> .https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/161775-220w-cfl-4x4-floor-plan-6.html#post2192355

if you had a 1000w of CFL you still would not yeild as much as a 1000w hps

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Your totaly correct and its been done.. Lets talk though about the conditions cfl are normally used under..

1. No space

2. Stealth conditions

3. Heat Issues

4 A piece of shit budget for walmart soil and cfl's...

5. Get hps when money is better.

I.E. get one for 80.-90. bucks at http://www.insidesun.com instead of 175.00 to 500 at your other hydro shops..

I really just want people to understand your point... your getting more plants per sq ft. More yield in most cases and more lumens/coverage/light output with HPS... Bring that technology to the god dam CFL's and make em affordable!

Led is still a learning process... It needs to be tested more and experimented with to get it right... but when its done it will be like good shit..

9inch bigbud said:

2 grow rooms 1 with a 400w HPS the otheer with 400W CFL top pics are both at 57 days flowering bottom pic of plants 1 hps plant and 1 cfl plant side by side at 57 days flower. the HPS room yeilded 340g and the CFL room yeilded 270g the HPS garden had only 4 plants because it was over grown, the CFL garden had 6 plants

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Thats what the hell im talking about proof is in her pudding.... They both look bomb shit and in no way would i be dissapointed with either!

If its a high end new model watt for watt led will blow anything out. Alot of people would say they never seen one make dense buds. there is a guy on here with a 600 watt led fixture flowering 4 or 6 large plants under it. about 5 feet tall the plants are. i forget his name but hes on all the led forums and has the setup to put the led argument to rest. its crazy

Lumens are not an issue in my system. it has more lumens than hps. lumens are measured at one foot below the source. my fixture is 1/2 inch from the plants. with 40000 initial lmens at one foot how many do i have at 1 inch. At least 16 times more i think out of my head. look at it like this. you have to much lumen loss over distance with hps.

Lets talk about your guys grows give us some details of how it went and money shots of your fine smoke... I love weed for its healing properties and the taste in my mouth is almost as good as pootang

here man just took these. 3 large are hempstar 3 weeks in. the others are lowryder 2 at 17 days today

1982grower said:

here man just took these. 3 large are hempstar 3 weeks in. the others are lowryder 2 at 17 days today

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nice grow bro.

thanks alot man. they are my girls until they come down in a few more weeks. Just wish the lr2 wasn;t a seed run. whatever. maybe i'll get really lucky and get 1 male and 9 females. yah right. thanks again

Def the genetics of the plant will always stay similar. ferts add weight. but obviously well taken care for mj would not be weaker. You could prob grow a skimpy plant with straight water

And the homemade dwc is not clear when its in the cabinet. i know youguys were thinking it. its clear for demo purposes only

1982grower said:

Lumens are not an issue in my system. it has more lumens than hps. lumens are measured at one foot below the source. my fixture is 1/2 inch from the plants. with 40000 initial lmens at one foot how many do i have at 1 inch. At least 16 times more i think out of my head. look at it like this. you have to much lumen loss over distance with hps.

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that goes for all light eevry foot away from the light will lose 1/2 the light, when shining a 1000w - 140000+ lumns at 2 feet its still putting down 35,000 lumens + its over a larger area if you stick the 1000w in a cool tube and get it down to a foot above the plants and your giving your plants 70,000 lumens CFLs cant put out no ware near the amount of light an HPS light can. watt for watt CFL give off more heat than HPS you put 5 x 200 CFLs in a small set up and put a 1000W in the same set up the 5x200watt CFL room will be hotter although you can get the lights closer to the plant the heat from 5x200watt CFL is higher than a single 1000w bulb. for the home grower the most efficant light watts of power to light is the HPS
Incandescent aprox 20 - 24 lumens per watt and is the least efficient of all the bulbs.

Halogen aprox 30 - 36 lumens per watt make it more efficient than incandescent bulbs; bright light burns very hot.

Fluorescent (tubular) aprox 60 - 100 lumens per watt, bulb burns cooler; very efficient, comes in different color temperatures.

Compact Fluorescent 60 - 80 lumens per watt

Metal Halide 80 - 125 lumens per watt extremely efficient; give a brilliant light, good color rendering

Mercury Vapor 40 - 63 lumens per watt lowest efficiency of the HID type bulbs; dims rapidly; bad color rendering

High Pressure Sodium 100 - 140 lumens per watt extremely efficient, long lasting produces yellowish light; slowly lose their brightness with time

back to PAR its sales banter most of it. proof is in the growing not what a pice of paper tells you
hps have been used gor growing for a long time they are proven lights that grow lots of bud thats why almost every professional grow room green house use them over any other light they are more efficient at growing plants than any other light

more light for the same power used = more bang for the buck.