110v VS 220v

The use of higher voltages in an industrial setting does have a savings advantage. Its just really not in the consumption department. Rather much more in the infrastructure savings.

Vonkins said:

Why do industrial settings use 277/480. Since there is no difference I'm going to work Monday and telling them to hook up the 400 ton electrical crane up to 120. Since there is no efficiency difference they should have no problem going from 480 to 120. And all the motors hooked up on 240, screw that, gonna tell them u will see no difference in efficiency what's so ever so let go 120 on those. Oh yeah and these miller welders, gotta be hooked up 120, cause they definitely won't run any cooler and more efficient at 240. Mr stoking ur on to something here. Ur going to be a millionaire one u release all these amazing ideas to company like ideal and major industries like CAT. Thanks to you industrial settings will be changed forever. You just started an industrial revolution. Electrical tech my butt. Tech not a wireman. Big difference. So in all ur saying 240/220 is not more efficient no matter what the conditions are. Huh, interesting. For some reason my ballast feels cooler at 240/220 maybe its a figment of my imagination.

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No sir, somewhere in all this you developed a way to defeat a Law of electricity, OHMS LAW, which matters less what the fuck voltage value you work with, a watt is a watt, is a volt is a volt, and an amp is an amp.
You can keep tossing new circuits at a single circruit. Only thing you are doing is reducing the resistance, you are not changing or reducing what electric device is drawing, a watt. In the end we pay for watts.

I care less what phase you run, is not going to reduce the load, it will however reduce the resistance. If it were the case a 15 watt light on a 3 volt system would never even draw a watt at all with your math on a 110 volt system.


To be quite honest I am growing bored of stating the quite obvious.

The industrial uses 277 480 due to resistance. If they did not running a motor of any size would burn the fucking place to the ground from the heat caused by resistance. At this moment I am starting to either think you are bullshitting me about your choosen profession, or that they are lucky It hasnt burnt to fucking ground yet. Surely you did not need me, a none journeyman to answer that question? Maybe you should not report in on Monday as they know the requirements needed to run the motor, apparently you do not.

FWIW, maybe the people that sat around laughing and you thought they were laughing with you, were indeed laughing at you, for not knowing how to apply the correct logical reasoning behind OHMS LAW. Its either that or the place you work at has some real winners working there. Think you could get me hired in?

I couldn't read all 7 pages of a so called electrician not knowing common electrical laws. But he had me lmfao on the first page.

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO said:

I couldn't read all 7 pages of a so called electrician not knowing common electrical laws. But he had me lmfao on the first page.

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A like and a plus 1 rep just for the comment.

All I said is efficient is efficient. If your able to run something with less stress and heat, then there is ur efficiency. I know why 480/277 is used. Its more efficient and motors will run with less stress and heat. I know this, I just think its funny how earlier u said no difference would be seen with a voltage change. This is what u said not me. I know about the heat issues, read my last sentence you fucking idiot and u will see how I say my ballast runs cooler at 220/240. U said there would be no difference. So make up ur mind shit breath and decide which answer u choose.

stoking said:

Umm I hate to go back to this, but umm, a commercial grow wont see any difference either.

P.s You can keep your balls, mine are enough for me.

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No difference huh? 40k watts at 120 vs 240 and no difference would be seen my ass.

I admit I made some off statement earlier in the post but damn. I get tired u weakling shit talkers. I said I was sorry for my previous rant but u fuckers like stoking like to keep stoking the fire. I get ur name now. I bet u have never made a wrong statement. Wish I could find u around.

Alexander Supertramp said:

The use of higher voltages in an industrial setting does have a savings advantage. Its just really not in the consumption department. Rather much more in the infrastructure savings.

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This is all I have been saying

Those 40 1k ballast don't work any different than having 20 welders running. Everything will be cooler and work at it maximum potential using 240 instead of 120 without losing any potential due to all the heat build up at 120. And there definitely would be heat build up with 40k watts being used. A shit load off heat, so imagine the heat difference if all those ballast are running cooler.

Vonkins said:

All I said is efficient is efficient. If your able to run something with less stress and heat, then there is ur efficiency. I know why 480/277 is used. Its more efficient and motors will run with less stress and heat. I know this, I just think its funny how earlier u said no difference would be seen with a voltage change. This is what u said not me. I know about the heat issues, read my last sentence you fucking idiot and u will see how I say my ballast runs cooler at 220/240. U said there would be no difference. So make up ur mind shit breath and decide which answer u choose.

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I never stated a circuit was not cooler on 240. I said you wont see a wattage change. Read again. Of course it will be cooler you did read less resistance (heat) on 240 correct?

Vonkins said:

No difference huh? 40k watts at 120 vs 240 and no difference would be seen my ass.

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No difference as in voltage or resistance their feel better, thought you as an electrician knew that already.
I was wrong, voltage would be double, resistance less. Watts be the same

I'm out. I'm gone fuck around and get banned. Gotta pick my battles and this one sure ain't worth it.

Vonkins said:

I admit I made some off statement earlier in the post but damn. I get tired u weakling shit talkers. I said I was sorry for my previous rant but u fuckers like stoking like to keep stoking the fire. I get ur name now. I bet u have never made a wrong statement. Wish I could find u around.

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I wasnt talking shit. I actually said the truth. Strangely read back 2 pages you will see me apologize once you seen the light, or umm watt.

I have made a mistalke, I believe it happened about the time I read your thought on a commercial grower may say a difference. They wont in watts, there happy?

As for my name, I aimed at more stoking my bong, but hey, it fits either way.

As for finding me around, Look northeast of the us, its shaped like a mitten, about where the thumb is. Let me know when you get close enough to the area, I will gladly pass you my bong.

Vonkins said:

Those 40 1k ballast don't work any different than having 20 welders running. Everything will be cooler and work at it maximum potential using 240 instead of 120 without losing any potential due to all the heat build up at 120. And there definitely would be heat build up with 40k watts being used. A shit load off heat, so imagine the heat difference if all those ballast are running cooler.

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Finally you grasp the concept, As said I read your commercial growers statement as a complete here we go again. as did a couple of others.

By the way, sound like the same as when you tried saying I said something I didnt, if not read all these quotes I just made, because it took you 4 posts to rant.

Stoking? You teaching how to roll yet? Ha newb.

Von, you running an electrical class yet?

stoking said:

Von, you running an electrical class yet?

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I'm running it alright. Right up ur ole ladies bony ass.

Vonkins said:

U Know!!!!

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I'll give ya sum plus rep young un. To help u move up to the teaching how to roll status. This was fun Mr sucking I ment stoking but now I must give up and throw in the towel. I guess I just suck at being a troll.

Screw all the rhetoric, I am just gonna run might lights using a big hamster wheel.

Vonkins said:

See that's the only prob I have with a lot of members. They give advice about shit they have no clue about. The bad part is they come off like they really know what their talking about. If u don't know for sure or don't have any experience, please please sit back and shut up. I can't stand someone who gives terrible advice and have no knowledge about it, but yet swears they are right.

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You sir are so wrong but you have it in your head that you're so right I won't even argue about this issue. Just wait until you get your bill enough said.