2 weeks old seedlings recover after nute burn, but still need more advice

Squidbilly

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If your under 85degrees your usually ok unless your humidity is really low. Once you get some type of exhaust it should really help remove the old stale air. Remember you want air exchange AND air circulation. Fresh air coming in, old air going out, and a fan circulating air in the room itself. Exhaust, a passive intake, and a circulating fan usually get the job done when not using HIDs.
 

Squidbilly

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Need them lower...
83 with a rh of 59 isn't bad at all. My flower tent is at 80 and rh is 40 and they are doing great. His problem is he's not exchanging air-usaully smaller grows can get away with this if they open the door at least once a day and let some fresh air in. That being said, with good air exchange a plant in veg should be thriving at 83 and rh of 59.
 

Squidbilly

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u just said it all there man u need a shit load were 1 or 2 hps or mh or even t5 bulbs would do the job why would u bother in the long run ur spending mor coin on bulbs and conections and prob wasting more money on power and given off prob same amount of heat
I will second that cfls and t5s both produce heat on par watt for watt with HIDs

CFLs of T5 are both fluros, I prefer the T5s because they are much safter and you have one fixture, with one cord, that can be raised and lowered with ease to work on your plants. As far as growing, as long as the watts are the same cfl and T5 are the same. T5's are just easier, safer, and more practical. The results will be the same either way, watt for watt.

a 4'x4tube T5 is approx 200watts. You would need almost 10 of the 28 watt bulbs or 4 of the 55watt bulbs to equal that, but you would never get the same even light spread the T5 fixture would produce being in a single hood-the light travels straight down from the bulb/hood and evenly covers the 4'x16' foot print much better then the cfls could.

And cheap hood, ballast, and inline fan can be found on ebay for less then 250 bucks and it will blow cfls and t5s out of the water. Fluros can never touch HIDs in the penetration department. Grow your plants taller then a foot and the fluros have a hard time penetrating the canopy at all-most cfls growers compensate by hanging cfls lower and all over the place. I usually see people with a ton a cfls and often think about how much money they wasted and how messy/dangerous their set-ups look. They are great for super small spaces or your first couple grows but you should at least step it up to a T5 as soon as you can. Hey they work so you can't knock them, I just think time and money is better spent on the T5s or HIDs.
 

puertorrican diesel

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u just said it all there man u need a shit load were 1 or 2 hps or mh or even t5 bulbs would do the job why would u bother in the long run ur spending mor coin on bulbs and conections and prob wasting more money on power and given off prob same amount of heat
u just said it all there man u need a shit load were 1 or 2 hps or mh or even t5 bulbs would do the job why would u bother in the long run ur spending mor coin on bulbs and conections and prob wasting more money on power and given off prob same amount of heat
true that, but the only thing ur wrong its in the electric bill tho., thats why i see a lot of growers going back to cfl., for the cost of running the lights., i say this* if u have a big crop its smart to use hps hid ., but with 2 or 3 plants thats just a waste of electricity... just IMHO THANKSS!!!
 

MD914

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I will second that cfls and t5s both produce heat on par watt for watt with HIDs

CFLs of T5 are both fluros, I prefer the T5s because they are much safter and you have one fixture, with one cord, that can be raised and lowered with ease to work on your plants. As far as growing, as long as the watts are the same cfl and T5 are the same. T5's are just easier, safer, and more practical. The results will be the same either way, watt for watt.

a 4'x4tube T5 is approx 200watts. You would need almost 10 of the 28 watt bulbs or 4 of the 55watt bulbs to equal that, but you would never get the same even light spread the T5 fixture would produce being in a single hood-the light travels straight down from the bulb/hood and evenly covers the 4'x16' foot print much better then the cfls could.

And cheap hood, ballast, and inline fan can be found on ebay for less then 250 bucks and it will blow cfls and t5s out of the water. Fluros can never touch HIDs in the penetration department. Grow your plants taller then a foot and the fluros have a hard time penetrating the canopy at all-most cfls growers compensate by hanging cfls lower and all over the place. I usually see people with a ton a cfls and often think about how much money they wasted and how messy/dangerous their set-ups look. They are great for super small spaces or your first couple grows but you should at least step it up to a T5 as soon as you can. Hey they work so you can't knock them, I just think time and money is better spent on the T5s or HIDs.
I agree...but the OP is working with CFL's...
 

MD914

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true that, but the only thing ur wrong its in the electric bill tho., thats why i see a lot of growers going back to cfl., for the cost of running the lights., i say this* if u have a big crop its smart to use hps hid ., but with 2 or 3 plants thats just a waste of electricity... just IMHO THANKSS!!!
It won't really raise your electric bill that much....I'm running a 400 and a 600 and it's really not that bad...regardless...your working with CFL's...
 

puertorrican diesel

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If your under 85degrees your usually ok unless your humidity is really low. Once you get some type of exhaust it should really help remove the old stale air. Remember you want air exchange AND air circulation. Fresh air coming in, old air going out, and a fan circulating air in the room itself. Exhaust, a passive intake, and a circulating fan usually get the job done when not using HIDs.
temps are 82-85 lights on 70-73 lights off Rh is 59-65 all the time
 

puertorrican diesel

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If your under 85degrees your usually ok unless your humidity is really low. Once you get some type of exhaust it should really help remove the old stale air. Remember you want air exchange AND air circulation. Fresh air coming in, old air going out, and a fan circulating air in t room itself. Exhaust, a passive intake, and a circulating fan usually get the job done when not using HIDs.
thanks for the advice bro!! I will get all that this weekend., and instal it over the weekend!! Happy gardening!!! Toke on =====~~~
 

BigTexan

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you can get anything off the internet but then you run into are you doing it legally? lol because then it will be a paper trail but its legal here so if i really cant find it here in town i have problems lol internet is last source when it comes to buying growing equipment online lol
 
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