2000w HPS Purple Kush Scrog Medical Grow#2

This is beautiful bro! That is a lot of bud-ah . . . LOL How much do you think you will harvest?

All looks dank.
Yield down. Do you think that the bulbs could have something to do with it. I know they lose lumens, and when you start multiplying it by more than 1 lamp it gets up there.

That could be a bunch of guff from someone trying to get me to buy new bulbs.

I would have a very hard time getting rid of that PK strain, even if you don't grow it, keep a momma around. And don't let your wife catch you with her.
Looks sick

wonderblunder said:

All looks dank.
Yield down. Do you think that the bulbs could have something to do with it. I know they lose lumens, and when you start multiplying it by more than 1 lamp it gets up there.

That could be a bunch of guff from someone trying to get me to buy new bulbs.

I would have a very hard time getting rid of that PK strain, even if you don't grow it, keep a momma around. And don't let your wife catch you with her.
Looks sick

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You know I actually thought of the bulb thing... I used the cheaper bulbs ( Sun something) for hps and they are rated for two or three runs, but that could really have been it. I picked up two Hortilux HPS bulbs yesterday. I have the hortilux MH I can't remember why I didn't buy the hort hps last time, but I have them now.

Yeah, I don't think I can get rid of the pk to be honest..I just can't figure out the decrease in density this time..
Thanks brother

So they had a Bloom vendor come to a local hydro store today and I made off with over a grand of shit for 500 bones!!

I talked to the rep ( who really knows his shit, he is really a walking grow encyclopedia) for about an hour and got some great general growing information. I also picked up a 10" carbon filter for 200 bucks..normally 389. The Bloom line has no or very little ppm to their products so they can be added to any line. I picked up a 2.5 liter of Ooz and Phat, some roots which can be run after I stop the root excel, Cal/mag/ Silcate( 50% off) and a couple hortilux hps 1000k's for 60 bucks each. I also got 6 sample bottles. Wooo Hooo! I love free and discount shit! The 10" filter is for when I move to my new room this summer.

I did get some clearification on a couple theories..
one was he says it is scientifically proven that 36 hour of darkness at the switch increases the flower site production and excelerates the plants transistion to flower. He did articualte this and use a bunch of biology terms that I can't regurgitate. Sorry.

The second was the MH during the first couple weeks of flower... He said this wasn't scientifically proven, but from years of experienced growers the consencus is that MH during the first week helps reduce the stress of the light trasnisiton, but that MH is not nearly as beneficial for bud development, so he said if you were changing light and nutrients at the same time he said it would be beneficial. If running the same nutes as the last week of veg than it had no benefit. So I feel better about switching my current flower to HPS after 6 days of MH.

He actually gave me his number and said I could call him for any advice any time.. I feel fortunate to have a new advise contact. I guess he ran a hydro shop for years before comming on board with Bloom. I must say I am not overly impressionable, but I am very impressed with this guys knowledge on growing.

Anyway, just thought I would share a couple of my findings. I will be starting a new journal tonight.

sounds like a productive day
think I'll try the 36 hrs of darkness before going to 12/12 tho. couldnt hurt right?
I wonder what benefits if there are any to vegging under hps for a week or so before flipping to 12/12. Im sure it helps the plants adjust to a hid lamp so less stress after the 12/12 flip, but Im still wondering which one would benefit the plant more. veg with a hps for a week before bloom or mh for the first week of bloom? fuck, I wish i knew! lol

Sup Raider? I confused on the Bloom. If it has really no ppm then what is it? Is it all organic? The bulb life makes a big diffrense. I used my Hortilux HPS for 3 grows max and my SuperHortilux MH for no more than 4 vegg's. I might be waisting money, but atleast the bulbs are new. Heat and ballast heat can make a big diffrese on bulb life aswell. Stay away from cheap bulbs. Use high end bulbs ONLY. Theres a huge diffrence. I also use Hortilux Super MH for the first two weeks for transition(bud). I also use a mix during full flower of Super MH and HPS. I hope the new bulbs you got were Super HPS or Super MH.... Those are the best. Also I notice that with the MH durring the 2 weeks transition, I get alot closer node sets. Good Luck man and Im always here watchin you and Boomer. I hope he gets his shit crackin soon. Kinda eager to see.I would post pics of my Strawberry, but I'm not as interesting as you guys...LOL

notoriousb said:

sounds like a productive day
think I'll try the 36 hrs of darkness before going to 12/12 tho. couldnt hurt right?
I wonder what benefits if there are any to vegging under hps for a week or so before flipping to 12/12. Im sure it helps the plants adjust to a hid lamp so less stress after the 12/12 flip, but Im still wondering which one would benefit the plant more. veg with a hps for a week before bloom or mh for the first week of bloom? fuck, I wish i knew! lol

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Thats a good point. Y not try both. Ill try that next round. There it is, my new mission.Thanks

notoriousb said:

sounds like a productive day
think I'll try the 36 hrs of darkness before going to 12/12 tho. couldnt hurt right?
I wonder what benefits if there are any to vegging under hps for a week or so before flipping to 12/12. Im sure it helps the plants adjust to a hid lamp so less stress after the 12/12 flip, but Im still wondering which one would benefit the plant more. veg with a hps for a week before bloom or mh for the first week of bloom? fuck, I wish i knew! lol

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That is a good question. Appearantly the whole idea is just to reduce stress..stress from light change, stress from transplant in my case and stress from nute change..I don't feed any different the first week of flower than I do the last week of veg, so in his opinion it would be better to just switch to hps. It would make sense that if you switch to hps earlier they could deal with that stress before the light change..might not be a bad idea. Got me thinking now, huh oh.. lol

sagensour said:

Sup Raider? I confused on the Bloom. If it has really no ppm then what is it? Is it all organic? The bulb life makes a big diffrense. I used my Hortilux HPS for 3 grows max and my SuperHortilux MH for no more than 4 vegg's. I might be waisting money, but atleast the bulbs are new. Heat and ballast heat can make a big diffrese on bulb life aswell. Stay away from cheap bulbs. Use high end bulbs ONLY. Theres a huge diffrence. I also use Hortilux Super MH for the first two weeks for transition(bud). I also use a mix during full flower of Super MH and HPS. I hope the new bulbs you got were Super HPS or Super MH.... Those are the best. Also I notice that with the MH durring the 2 weeks transition, I get alot closer node sets. Good Luck man and Im always here watchin you and Boomer. I hope he gets his shit crackin soon. Kinda eager to see.I would post pics of my Strawberry, but I'm not as interesting as you guys...LOL

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I was perplexed to on the ability to add along with any other base nutes or additives without over dosing the plants. The Bloom is organic and highly concentrated plant extracts is the way he explained it..they have a very very low or no EC/ppm. So he said they can accompany any nute regime. We will wee because I will be running a few products this round... so hopefully he is right, because I am not replacing anything I am already using.
As for the lights, you know I haven't cut any corners and it was truely an oversight that I had those damn cheap bulbs..when I was in the hydro store one day 6 months ago and asked the guy what the difference was in bulbs and he said well the 60 buck ones you run for one or two runs and the hortilux you run for 6-9 months..so at the time I just grabbed them and save 80 bucks and figured I would replace them after my first run..which I never did. I will do the same thing as you are..I am not gonna pinch pennies on lights. The guy from Bloom aggreed that the airyness of my buds is probably from light in-efficiency .

As for you not being interesting..wtf, come on now, I find every grow/grower interesting and every plant interesting..lets see em. lol I would love to see the strawberry man.

luckily i got two great sources for all my lighting questions and needs my gf's dad is a electrical/lighting designer and his friend owns a lighting company been around for a couple generations so i get free mh lights and bulbs and get free consulting dont have to use any tomato code words or anything kinda nice gives me access to all kinda equipment too light readers bulbs ballast lights reflectors pretty much anything lighting =)

Awesome grow !
Purple kush give a nice energetic buzz, while still being mellow.
Love it

heres my cacey jones mom i said i would take pic of ill get the ones in flower when i can

Raider, Try out the mixed spectrum of HPS and MH. See how it does. Ill post up some Strawberry Cough asap. Have you ever grown that starin? Its by far the easiest growing plant I've come across and it does real well under ScRog. Smells just like strawberryies. Anyways, does your PK give you energy or what? Fuck, mine does. I got the lawn mowed after smoking a bowl. BZZZZZZZZ

sagensour said:

Raider, Try out the mixed spectrum of HPS and MH. See how it does. Ill post up some Strawberry Cough asap. Have you ever grown that starin? Its by far the easiest growing plant I've come across and it does real well under ScRog. Smells just like strawberryies. Anyways, does your PK give you energy or what? Fuck, mine does. I got the lawn mowed after smoking a bowl. BZZZZZZZZ

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for energy its hard to beat green crack

mikegreenthumb said:

luckily i got two great sources for all my lighting questions and needs my gf's dad is a electrical/lighting designer and his friend owns a lighting company been around for a couple generations so i get free mh lights and bulbs and get free consulting dont have to use any tomato code words or anything kinda nice gives me access to all kinda equipment too light readers bulbs ballast lights reflectors pretty much anything lighting =)

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Very nice. I have a good friend that owns a hydro shop and has grown for many years, so I kind of have the same (non-code-word) place to get advice too. I remember when I first walked into a hydro store I asked what the best set-up for growing 12 marijuana plants and they freaked out. " We can't talk about that with you" lol

Jer La Mota said:

Awesome grow !
Purple kush give a nice energetic buzz, while still being mellow.
Love it

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Thanks man

mikegreenthumb said:

heres my cacey jones mom i said i would take pic of ill get the ones in flower when i can

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Looks very nice bud

sagensour said:

Raider, Try out the mixed spectrum of HPS and MH. See how it does. Ill post up some Strawberry Cough asap. Have you ever grown that starin? Its by far the easiest growing plant I've come across and it does real well under ScRog. Smells just like strawberryies. Anyways, does your PK give you energy or what? Fuck, mine does. I got the lawn mowed after smoking a bowl. BZZZZZZZZ

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I haven't ever grown or tasted strawberry cough, but it sounds delicious! Yes the pk gives me energy and numbs my body at the same time. It is the perfect combo for me.

mikegreenthumb said:

for energy its hard to beat green crack

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I like durban deisel too for energy alone, but pk has the numbing qaulity to it too

#1Raiderfan420 said:

Very nice. I have a good friend that owns a hydro shop and has grown for many years, so I kind of have the same (non-code-word) place to get advice too. I remember when I first walked into a hydro store I asked what the best set-up for growing 12 marijuana plants and they freaked out. " We can't talk about that with you" lol


Thanks man



Looks very nice bud

I haven't ever grown or tasted strawberry cough, but it sounds delicious! Yes the pk gives me energy and numbs my body at the same time. It is the perfect combo for me.


I like durban deisel too for energy alone, but pk has the numbing qaulity to it too

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strawberry cough is a lil under potent for me purp kush is indica dom so its where the numbing comes from

sagensour said:

Sup Raider? I confused on the Bloom. If it has really no ppm then what is it? Is it all organic?

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Hey Sage, I was reading up on the bloom and went to their website http://www.hydroint.com/id79.html and looked at the detail on phat and ooze... they both have 0.0 NPK which is why they can be added to the existing line without andy issues.
Here are the 10 quick facts about the line. If anyone has any experience witht he Bloom line I would love to hear it.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]10 QUICK FACTS ABOUT THE YELLOW BOTTLES
(The Final Bloom Products)

1. 100% ORGANIC
2. 0-0-0 NPK VALUE
3. GURANTEED INCREASE IN YIELD
4. RESULTS YOU CAN SEE IN 2-3 DAYS
5. IMPROVES FLOWER QUALITY & SCENT
6. DERIVED FROM PLANT & FUNGI EXTRACTS
7. NATURAL BIO-STIMULANTS
8. RARE EARTH MINERALS
9. SUGAR & AMINO ACIDS
10. ALL PRODUCTS ARE 1 TSP. PER GALLON[/FONT]

hmm sounds interesting and the site explained it well.. were you gonna use it in conjunction with the h&g shooting powder?

notoriousb said:

hmm sounds interesting and the site explained it well.. were you gonna use it in conjunction with the h&g shooting powder?

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Yes I actually am using the roots now and stopping the root excel..root excel for veg and roots for flower..appearently you can use it all the way through. Then the Ooze, Phat and the final. I plan running all the h&g line, so I can see if there is a noticable difference..if not I'll drop it. I don't plan on removing any house and garden nutes.

Figured you had thought of the bulbs. i too will be using Hortilux bulbs, I have boughten 1, but will swap the other out after this run.

So I finally started a new journal Round 3