24/24, has anybody tried a 48 hour cycle???

quadrophine

quadrophine

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So, I was thinking about this the other day... we put our plants in a 12/12 cycle to induce flowering, however we vegged with the lights 24/0 and it got me thinking, if instead of using a 24 hour cycle we used a 48 hour cycle. I figured that if the plant thinks that each day is 48 hours, it would give itself a good 4 months to finish flowering. just an idea, I'd do it with the girl we got now, but we already kicked her into 12 12, but if someones got it like that, it would be great to see what would happen or if anyone has tried it in the past. to see what happend.

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fdd2blk

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the days on earth are 24 hours. anything else and the plants go screwy. i have never tried it myself but have read about it.
 
quadrophine

quadrophine

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what kind of screwy??? where did you read about it?

If we grew a plant on a planet who's days were 48 hours and orbited a red sun, I'd like to think of buds the size of volkeswagons.

I'll google it.
 
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fdd2blk

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quadrophine said:
what kind of screwy??? where did you read about it?

If we grew a plant on a planet who's days were 48 hours and orbited a red sun, I'd like to think of buds the size of volkeswagons.

I'll google it.
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well i do they they won't flower unless they get 12 hours of complete darkness. as far as vegging, some people veg 24 hours with no light period. i did read about it in several books. i'd have to get up and go look thru them to find out exactly. it's just someone else's opinion though. :blsmoke:
 
quadrophine

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I mean, I know they need 12 hours of darkness, but I imagine they don't conciously know about the light cycles on this planet even though they have been bred for it. if we went from 24 hours on then 24 hours off, then 24 hours on... I think that there is a chance that it would interpret this cycle as a 12 12 photoperiod. I mean, the whole idea is that light cycles may be fun to play with. the next bag seed I germinate will be dedicated to this... I don't think I have enough light to do it right now.
but fdd, this would be an experiment that I think you could handle. besides it wouldn't hurt to get more information... if it works it works...

My hypothesis...

vegging a plant, under 24 hours of light for 30 days, and switching to a 24 24 cycle, 24 hours light on 24 hours light off... would cause the plant to flower itself on a time cycle that is double what it's accustomed to, should lead the plant to flower longer, I imagine double. resulting in copious amounts of bud that have had more time to mature and develope.

I could be way way offf.. but I'll give it a go next time around unless someones up for it now.
 
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fdd2blk

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quadrophine said:
I mean, I know they need 12 hours of darkness, but I imagine they don't conciously know about the light cycles on this planet even though they have been bred for it. if we went from 24 hours on then 24 hours off, then 24 hours on... I think that there is a chance that it would interpret this cycle as a 12 12 photoperiod. I mean, the whole idea is that light cycles may be fun to play with. the next bag seed I germinate will be dedicated to this... I don't think I have enough light to do it right now.
but fdd, this would be an experiment that I think you could handle. besides it wouldn't hurt to get more information... if it works it works...

My hypothesis...

vegging a plant, under 24 hours of light for 30 days, and switching to a 24 24 cycle, 24 hours light on 24 hours light off... would cause the plant to flower itself on a time cycle that is double what it's accustomed to, should lead the plant to flower longer, I imagine double. resulting in copious amounts of bud that have had more time to mature and develope.

I could be way way offf.. but I'll give it a go next time around unless someones up for it now.
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like i said, i've only read about it. i'd love to actually watch what happens.:mrgreen::blsmoke:
 
skunkushybrid

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I believe you would be wasting your time giving 24 hours dark period. A plant only needs 11 hours dark, so it is more logical to go 24/12, 24/12 etc.

It would be interesting to see if this could work.
 
hossfield

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i read somewhere that some weird light cycle works really well for flowering, but youd need a digital timer...its something like 18 on and 12 off...i forget i just remember it was something that didnt add up to a 24 hour day, ill try and look around for it
 
nongreenthumb

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Whatever the humans conclusions are on timing and what hours are in a day or whatever planet it doesn't really matter, time is our measurement, no one elses, the plants will always have their own sense of time, growing indoors allows you to manipulate that.

However we do live on planet earth which means the plants have an idea of photoperiods and how long they should be as the change is what triggers its flowering period.

I would think that giving it 24 hours of light followed by 24 hours of dark would do nothing more than screw with the plant.

I'm guessing though that your are talking about flowering for this light cycle as for veg it would be pointless as you would miss out on a days growth, for flowering though it would probably be like telling the plant its flowering one day then vegin the next. The best way to get a good yield is to just grow them as well as you can keep and them healthy.
 
skunkushybrid

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I have been thinking about this for a couple of days now, since getting a pm off tahoe. It seems to me that a plant only needs 11 hours dark to flower, to build the hormone it needs. Who says that it also needs 12 hours of light?

If plants had any real idea of photoperiod how can we veg' them with 24 hour light? Vegging for 24 hours is not natural for cannabis, yet it obliges us with faster growth and quicker maturity.

Giving an 18 hour light period in flower, followed by an 11 hour dark might actually work. Then again, it may not.

Time is our scale, yes... not the plants. In it's genetic code it has a certain life span. How does it measure this? The only answer can be light.

How would cannabis respond to a 29hour day in flower? To me that is a very interesting question.

nongreenthumb said:
However we do live on planet earth which means the plants have an idea of photoperiods and how long they should be as the change is what triggers its flowering period.
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Lacy

Lacy

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Well said skunk. :mrgreen:

I think 24 hours dark would screw them up to.

I've never vegged using 24/0 but I am now only because my timer failed and by the time I found another one they had already adapted to the 24 hours of light. :-|

I wish i could do a side by side comparison using the same light system.

I only have them under one double fluorescent light but this little plant is only 2 1/2 weeks old.
nongreenthumb said:
Whatever the humans conclusions are on timing and what hours are in a day or whatever planet it doesn't really matter, time is our measurement, no one elses, the plants will always have their own sense of time, growing indoors allows you to manipulate that.

However we do live on planet earth which means the plants have an idea of photoperiods and how long they should be as the change is what triggers its flowering period.

I would think that giving it 24 hours of light followed by 24 hours of dark would do nothing more than screw with the plant.

I'm guessing though that your are talking about flowering for this light cycle as for veg it would be pointless as you would miss out on a days growth, for flowering though it would probably be like telling the plant its flowering one day then vegin the next. The best way to get a good yield is to just grow them as well as you can keep and them healthy.
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Lacy

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Plant had just been transplanted so is in shock still.:?





Lacy said:
Well said skunk. :mrgreen:

I think 24 hours dark would screw them up to.

I've never vegged using 24/0 but I am now only because my timer failed and by the time I found another one they had already adapted to the 24 hours of light. :-|

I wish i could do a side by side comparison using the same light system.

I only have them under one double fluorescent light but this little plant is only 2 1/2 weeks old.
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quadrophine

quadrophine

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I'm thinking, that it's likely the plant will just go screwey, I'm really interested in trying the 24 24 because, like has been said... the plant really has no way of Identifying particular light cycles. So I imagine the way that it determines that it's time to flower is based on how long the nights are. I don't know if the plant is geared to needing at least 12 hours of light per 24 hours, or if it requires only a light cycle with a dark period relative to 12 12 or something similar.
I'm gonna give it a go with my next bagseed attempt, unless any of you guys are up for a little experimenting with the plants you have now!
 
darkmatter

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fdd2blk said:
the days on earth are 24 hours. anything else and the plants go screwy. i have never tried it myself but have read about it.
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The days on earth are 24 hours - That's the funniest thing I've read all week. Thank you for the laugh, I needed it.
 
crazy-mental

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try it. if you have some spare plants, y dont you chuck one in the vegg room, for one day. in and one day in dark.and so on.. but i bet youd just be wasting time.
 
SheepsBlood

SheepsBlood

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Plants are not like a ni-cad battery. They are like humans, a carbon based life form that takes in a certain amount of fuel before it has to expel it by some means of energy transfer. So since our planet hasn't evolved around a 48 hour light cycle then that idea won't work. It might for a short peroid but like you they will eventually give up and be so exausted, then die.
 
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