2nd time growing. General changes and ideas!

Cubes15128 said:

Ah comon mate! No need for that! Lol

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Don't pull in here and claim your way is "THE" way and then think your going to get a hug. Giving my plants a water cycle allows the plant a light flush. This in turn "Resets" my medium, hydrates the plant and off we go again. Then you say my plant has too much N. You don't know what I feed. You don't know the strain. And yet YOU can tell me about my plant??? Your JUST ANOTHER poser. Go play with the Newbies. And the "Mate" thing. Save it for the boy friends at the bar. Dude.

Jypsy Dog said:

Don't pull in here and claim your way is "THE" way and then think your going to get a hug. Giving my plants a water cycle allows the plant a light flush. This in turn "Resets" my medium, hydrates the plant and off we go again. Then you say my plant has too much N. You don't know what I feed. You don't know the strain. And yet YOU can tell me about my plant??? Your JUST ANOTHER poser. Go play with the Newbies. And the "Mate" thing. Save it for the boy friends at the bar. Dude.

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First off, mate, I don't need to know what you feed your plant. Your fan leaves are clearly clawing in the pics you posted. Too much N. doesn't matter what F'n strain it is you old fart. I'd love for someone to correct me on that with some backed up evidence that's not too much N. lmao.
Second I never said that was "my way". I just researched it and saw that more people feed everytime rather than water feed water. Plus why would u wanna flush your medium to "reset" it or "hydrate" it? Resetting your medium when nothing is wrong is just hindering the process. Lol and your plant will hydrate just fine with a feeding .
But I'm more interested in you proving that your plants in your pics don't have too much N. last I checked there aren't any strains that mimic the symptoms of too much N, genetically. Lol
Please show me the way masta!

Cubes15128 said:

First off, mate, I don't need to know what you feed your plant. Your fan leaves are clearly clawing in the pics you posted. Too much N. doesn't matter what F'n strain it is you old fart. I'd love for someone to correct me on that with some backed up evidence that's not too much N. lmao.
Second I never said that was "my way". I just researched it and saw that more people feed everytime rather than water feed water. Plus why would u wanna flush your medium to "reset" it or "hydrate" it? Resetting your medium when nothing is wrong is just hindering the process. Lol and your plant will hydrate just fine with a feeding .
But I'm more interested in you proving that your plants in your pics don't have too much N. last I checked there aren't any strains that mimic the symptoms of too much N, genetically. Lol
Please show me the way masta!

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Week of harvest. Sour N Sage Lucas Formula. Maxibloom. 5-15-14 With Moormloom 0-10-10 weeks 3/5 RO 10oz.

Am I just seeing things? Lol we could sit here all day and pick each others grows apart. Yes it looks like you fixed the problem later on lol but it was there. Too much N. circled. I respect you as a good grower and I was just being a shit picking out little things lol you just took it all to heart and got butt hurt. As I've been told on here before you gotta let that shit roll off. But nice plant anyways, mate

Cubes15128 said:

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Am I just seeing things? Lol we could sit here all day and pick each others grows apart. Yes it looks like you fixed the problem later on lol but it was there. Too much N. circled. I respect you as a good grower and I was just being a shit picking out little things lol you just took it all to heart and got butt hurt. As I've been told on here before you gotta let that shit roll off. But nice plant anyways, mate

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Piss off.

Jypsy Dog said:

Piss off.

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Lol

so, to try to get back to the point, if recess is over?......
you can go either way, as long as you get a little run off each time you water. you can feed at higher ppm/ec, and alternate feeds and waters, or feed every time at a lower ppm/ec.....they both work, it just depends on how you like to do it. as long as you get a little run off each time, the salts shouldn't build up too bad, and you're putting some fresh oxygenated water into the pot, which is important in coco.
you can start in soil and transplant into coco. i'd try to gently shake all the loose soil off i could, without damaging the roots, as they do have different ph requirements, but a small amount of either ought to be absorbed pretty easily.
its a lot better for your plants to have a temperature differential of around 10 degrees between day and night if its at all possible.

My Apology to the OP. Posers piss me off.

Osmotic balance is massively effected by inconsistencies in feedings. By giving a plant plain water when it doesn’t have a problem and had a nutrient solution the day before you are effectively stressing the roots, reducing their ability to uptake. Not getting into the dick swinging competition but the op deserves to know this. Coco is hydro. Don’t fool urself. And don’t try and fool newbies

Blue brother said:

Osmotic balance is massively effected by inconsistencies in feedings. By giving a plant plain water when it doesn’t have a problem and had a nutrient solution the day before you are effectively stressing the roots, reducing their ability to uptake. Not getting into the dick swinging competition but the op deserves to know this. Coco is hydro. Don’t fool urself. And don’t try and fool newbies

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Just not buying what yer sellin..... https://www.maximumyield.com/crazy-for-coco-coir/2/1237 Coco holds on to more than you think.

Blue brother said:

Osmotic balance is massively effected by inconsistencies in feedings. By giving a plant plain water when it doesn’t have a problem and had a nutrient solution the day before you are effectively stressing the roots, reducing their ability to uptake. Not getting into the dick swinging competition but the op deserves to know this. Coco is hydro. Don’t fool urself. And don’t try and fool newbies

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coco is not hydro, if you keep your ph at 5.8 in coco, you're going to regret it sooner than later
i've experimented, feeding light daily, and alternating heavier feedings and water....as far as i can tell they're about equal.
i took botany in college, i understand what you're talking about, but i've found it not to be true with cannabis, under the right conditions, you can water every day, or you can water every other day....or you can do it however it pleases you, as long as you get them wet again before they dry out.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

coco is not hydro, if you keep your ph at 5.8 in coco, you're going to regret it sooner than later
i've experimented, feeding light daily, and alternating heavier feedings and water....as far as i can tell they're about equal.
i took botany in college, i understand what you're talking about, but i've found it not to be true with cannabis, under the right conditions, you can water every day, or you can water every other day....or you can do it however it pleases you, as long as you get them wet again before they dry out.

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It is 100% true in cannabis, fair play, u took botany, I’m a horticulturalist. This isn’t botany its horticulture. changes in osmotic pressure cause slowing and sometimes even stalling of nutrient uptake. A plant that is fed every watering with the correct solution will allways do better than one which gets a low ppm feed one day then a high ppm feed the next. Coco is hydroponics unless u amend it. Granted it’s not truly inert. But the plant isn’t getting anything from the medium rather the medium leAches small amounts of other chemicals from the solution. Making it all the more important to feed correctly.

i wasn't really recommending an erratic feeding schedule, just that the method doesn't matter as much as the regularity. you can water every day, or every other day, or whatever, just do it regularly, so the plant gets used to it.
as far as alternating feed and water...a lot of people do it that way and get very good results. its possible they might get a slightly better result if they fed every time at a reduced rate, but i honestly don't think its going to make a perceptible difference. and i say this from experience. i've tried both ways, and it didn't seem to make much of a difference to me.
maybe i have my area dialed in better than you, and small differences are just ignored by my very healthy plants

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i wasn't really recommending an erratic feeding schedule, just that the method doesn't matter as much as the regularity. you can water every day, or every other day, or whatever, just do it regularly, so the plant gets used to it.
as far as alternating feed and water...a lot of people do it that way and get very good results. its possible they might get a slightly better result if they fed every time at a reduced rate, but i honestly don't think its going to make a perceptible difference. and i say this from experience. i've tried both ways, and it didn't seem to make much of a difference to me.
maybe i have my area dialed in better than you, and small differences are just ignored by my very healthy plants

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Haha touchè. Nice response mate. The thing to remember is not everyone (and especially not beginners) have a well dialed healthy grow. So not everyone’s plants are gonna shrug it off, it’s never gonna be a life and death situation for the plant but always best to do it all right every time. And allways best to set beginners off with the right habits.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

so, to try to get back to the point, if recess is over?......
you can go either way, as long as you get a little run off each time you water. you can feed at higher ppm/ec, and alternate feeds and waters, or feed every time at a lower ppm/ec.....they both work, it just depends on how you like to do it. as long as you get a little run off each time, the salts shouldn't build up too bad, and you're putting some fresh oxygenated water into the pot, which is important in coco.

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I'm using soil, but will try coco on the second grow. Does any of this apply to soil?
Can you suggest or explain a schedule for soil? I've read every other day, weekly, every 2 weeks etc. I'll be using Mega Crop.

i used soil when i started, and i've grown outside, not sure if i'm up to date, but this is what i did.
in pots, i'd water about every 3 days or so, depending on when they started to get light. i'd feed twice, then ph'ed water the third time, till i got a decent amount of run off, to wash out any salt build up.

coreywebster said:

Check the advert for the LED or link it here. Make sure the true wattage is higher than the CFL your using.
Some of those "600w" grow lights are only 130w, which would be a lot less than you thought and possibly under perform in flower.

BTW I like the user name!

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Watts don't matter in LED it's all about PAR a good 240 true Watt LED can and has out performed 600w HPS

1212ham said:

I'm using soil, but will try coco on the second grow. Does any of this apply to soil?
Can you suggest or explain a schedule for soil? I've read every other day, weekly, every 2 weeks etc. I'll be using Mega Crop.

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Just my 2c.
It depends on many things when you water soil.
Pot size, plant size, stage of the grow all change drinking habits in soil.
I have watered a seedling in a 5 gallon pot with 10 to 14 day gaps between watering.
I have watered larger plants every other day.
What matters in an indoor soil grow is to water the soil evenly and not water again until the pot is light. If a person knows their soil and the weight of the pots when dry and when wet they can determine when it is time to water. It is never a schedule for the best grow with soil IMO although a scheduled watering may be required for certain situations. Schedule or no schedule it is important to let the pot dry out between watering without the plant drooping.

Stblazed said:

Watts don't matter in LED it's all about PAR a good 240 true Watt LED can and has out performed 600w HPS

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I agree its about PAR, but its easy to judge cheap blurple LEDs on the real watts used since they are in the same ball park efficiency as HPS.

But I would like to know what you mean by a good 240w LED, because I'm not aware of any that beat 600w at the moment at that power. I use some of the most efficient LEDs about at this moment and 260w is roughly equal to 500w HPS.

coreywebster said:

I agree its about PAR, but its easy to judge cheap blurple LEDs on the real watts used since they are in the same ball park efficiency as HPS.

But I would like to know what you mean by a good 240w LED, because I'm not aware of any that beat 600w at the moment at that power. I use some of the most efficient LEDs about at this moment and 260w is roughly equal to 500w HPS.

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DIY COB LEDs are crazy the results that are coming from them

coreywebster said:

I agree its about PAR, but its easy to judge cheap blurple LEDs on the real watts used since they are in the same ball park efficiency as HPS.

But I would like to know what you mean by a good 240w LED, because I'm not aware of any that beat 600w at the moment at that power. I use some of the most efficient LEDs about at this moment and 260w is roughly equal to 500w HPS.

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some of the results that the guys are getting from home built COB LEDs are much better than HPS.
I agree about blurples though