3 white widows 5 weeks into flower 1 turned herm

DVXSteverino

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yeah it sux...3 nirvana white widows under 400 hps scrog. 5-6 weeks into flower.. had a mag deficiency .. think one widow turn because of that.. fixed now and i just noticed the one had bananas growing on 1/3rd of the flower heads on all the colas from that plant..spent 20 min. cutting out the little dicks (caught just in time before the pollen became dust form)...now I wonder should I pull it, or chance maybe some fem seeds, or maybe she will be ok if I cut ALL the bananas out, and the bud top attached to it. Please advise anyone...Would love to hear from Bricktop or Uncle Ben. Im far from a newby, but i am totally at hermies...Would post pics..but is it really necessary? I will if people really wanna see it.. Help anyone??
 

DVXSteverino

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anyone? Please!!! Only have 24 hr window to act...would sux if I take her down, yielding about six oz., when there was still hope...very nervous here!!
 

DVXSteverino

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actually i believe its called "inter-sexed" ...so in short..bananas on alot of the flower heads on one of 3 girls. can post pics if necessary..just like to know the pros and cons of the situation.. looks like some of them may open up extremely soon...
 

darkdestruction420

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you could try dutchmasters reverse. I've had very poor results on genetic hermies with it though. i would like to see some pics. it would give me a better idea of what the situation is. right now im undecided.
 

DVXSteverino

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you could try dutchmasters reverse. I've had very poor results on genetic hermies with it though. i would like to see some pics. it would give me a better idea of what the situation is. right now im undecided.
I can get pics..these im posting i took earlier..before i saw them...funny man..I just thought when watering last night to check for stay balls...never had encounters with bananas...but upon research last night..the reverse may help me after all..Have an HTG Supply less than an hour away...just shuffled some money around so I can go get some....and the dang penetrator.. or now called saturator...may be monday before I can get it..I thought the money swapping was instant...apparently not...and banks are closed monday..damn....maybe I will be ok for a couple days just picking them off? Its very hard to pick just "them" off because of the dang stickiness...most just the tip of the bud assuring all bananas i go after..will I keep stressing the plant by picking them off? also man, I didnt notice ANY new growth in that department during the last 12 hr dark when lights came back on today..didnt have my optivisor on tho..going to do another looksie here soon...I cant remove her because the 3 gurls are in a heavy scrog..lol..alot of the hairs on all 3 plants have started turning...Kinda hoping they werent pollinated..but it has been 6 weeks flower...roughly..every banana i plucked..maybe 20 ....was still more green than yellow...pollen was still dampish and not to usable form..I did catch one open tho..very small..I wouldnt imagine that that one could give me 1000 beans...I could be wrong tho..
but yes.. the reverse I think is my best bet...I believe I had a mag deficiency..and did the epsoms yesterday when I watered..May be why she is....cant truely say herm..so Ill say she wants to carry out the next generation..lol..long story short..Took me a while to pin point the mag problem..PH has been great this go around. Soil, FFOF, from 6.5 to 6.8...
These were taken yesteday just before the discovery..
the one on the right side is the guilty party..
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thcsexy

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actually i believe its called "inter-sexed" ...so in short..bananas on alot of the flower heads on one of 3 girls. can post pics if necessary..just like to know the pros and cons of the situation.. looks like some of them may open up extremely soon...
take this one out from the girls, asap - this is my opinien, dealing with hermies its a nightmare
 

thcsexy

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actually, i said it before i saw your pics.. it looks like advanced flowering, isn't it? are you sure the 'bananas' started just now? you should get a pic of what you think as mail flowering, its impossible to see it in your pics..
 

DVXSteverino

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So, see how difficult it is to climb halfway in and inspect every bud??? wouldnt be half bad..but its like a gigantic flytrap in there its so dang sticky..i mean seriously...most ive ever seen...so bad that i constantly pick cat hairs off buds..and its a STERILE environment!..do have cats tho..these 3 nirvana gurls seem to be the exact same pheno..i would have never thought that...here is a couple more pics..these are buds on the far left plant
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thcsexy

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yep, i saw it on one of the buds here.. well, i would say that because you are on the last stage, probebly damage is already done, so you sould keep taking them off.. but maybe, if its only on one of them, you should take this one off. maybe we can get more opinions here?
 

DVXSteverino

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yep, i saw it on one of the buds here.. well, i would say that because you are on the last stage, probebly damage is already done, so you sould keep taking them off.. but maybe, if its only on one of them, you should take this one off. maybe we can get more opinions here?
yeah..Hoping some of the forum vets will chime in...Meant to ad,.that the 2 above pics are the whole pile..not a whole bud..LoL..I picked and threw in a cup..laid out overnight and bunch up a while ago to take a pic..mostly were individual calyxes. Doesnt look that way..well I just puffed a bowl of it..still a little damp..but mmmmm...taste good, not harsh at all..and im very high..hard to believe it being pluck 16 hrs ago. But i remember the last time I grew nirvana ww, its cure was just as good a week into..as 6 months later..
 

DVXSteverino

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just check her again..about 90% sure I got all the nanners..What startled me is I read here last night about those jokers growing as fast as you could pluck them.so When I saw none, or even the beginnings of new ones...maybe I can just pick em on an as needed basis..maybe twice a week, once...heck only have a couple three weeks max till finished...

My thoughts at this point is to leave her in there..check several times daily
Would be ok to get a few seeds from the other 2 girls..that would make for nice fem seeds.. then grow them out a couple generations and perfect that one. If I leave her and she gets no bigger but fills out..All wont be lost..maybe total of 2-3 oz. the other 2 should bring 4 or better each.. Vegged for 6 weeks..3 gallon pots and I WILL go bigger pots next time... I just hope she will still fill out and mature with me picking everytime I see a pecker..
 

DVXSteverino

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Btw, Closet grow..2' x 6' about 64" height. 400w mh/hps...temps are 65-72 lights on and drop 10-15 when lights off.
 

DVXSteverino

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be careful with the seeds! seeds of hermies hold big chance of hermi-baby.
Not a hermie..Its inter-sexed.. in other words, Shes a full blow female that late stress caused her to produce male parts..Due to Mag deficiency. Hermies are genetics.. Different scenario.. That would make usable fem seeds IF the plant affected( on the right side of pic) pollinates any other remaining 2 gurls (middle, and left in pic).. I wouldnt so much trust seeds from the gurl that has the bananas..if she in fact pollinates herself...but the other 2 are fair game. Just not the whole damn grow!.. LoL
 

DVXSteverino

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be careful with the seeds! seeds of hermies hold big chance of hermi-baby.
And hell man, I may have gotten them already.. Like I said earlier, I did see one that opened up..but was kinda deformed, NOT like a flower or claw opening up..surely not that much pollen, if even usable would come from one or 2 pods. remember these arent hermie "balls" these are female bananas as a last ditch effort to survive.. That Reverse stuff is ideal for this situation...or stress induced abnormalities....may work for some genetic hermies, but I dont think that was the science behind the invention so to speak
 
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