4" PVC Single-Res Aero Shuttle (in progress)

wbinwv

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I'm amazed at how quickly they are growing. Astonished actually. These clones didnt even pop roots until the 10th. In 10 days they have exploded. If I chose not to scrog these, I'd have to start flowering them within the next week to keep them at 36 inches when finished. My veg time without the scrog net would literally be 15 days, which amazes me.


I just turned the 600 off and took a nice color shot of them. They certainly don't look like clones anymore. They are turning into little bushes. I love their color. I couldnt be happier than I am at this point for this grow. I can't believe 3 or 4 of the largest clones are pushing 9 inches already.

Soil? l-o-l



 

AEROPRO

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Awesome start!
Your doing very very well I would say considering you built this ship yourself!
You have alot to be proud of. I'm glad I found the thread and will be of any assistance I can.
They really look like they are thickening up well.. I help in question form...

1.)Do you use any Cal/mag supplement?> this can be an issue with RO water, I'm not familiar with the nutes you are using, they may cover that for you in there.

2.)Ever thought of perhaps using any Applied Biology>? such as subculture M and B? the M makes my roots fishbone which makes me real happy! ( I say this b/c u already have the water chiller) this product I would not recommend without a chiller)...

3.)What kind of pruning do you have in mind for these girls Single Cola or bushy?

4.) A air stone in your res may help up o2 levels by bringing in outside air to a pretty tightly closed system.

Your killin it! My highest respects.. hope these questions help...

Aeropro-
 

wbinwv

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Awesome start!
Your doing very very well I would say considering you built this ship yourself!
You have alot to be proud of. I'm glad I found the thread and will be of any assistance I can.
They really look like they are thickening up well.. I help in question form...

1.)Do you use any Cal/mag supplement?> this can be an issue with RO water, I'm not familiar with the nutes you are using, they may cover that for you in there.

2.)Ever thought of perhaps using any Applied Biology>? such as subculture M and B? the M makes my roots fishbone which makes me real happy! ( I say this b/c u already have the water chiller) this product I would not recommend without a chiller)...

3.)What kind of pruning do you have in mind for these girls Single Cola or bushy?

4.) A air stone in your res may help up o2 levels by bringing in outside air to a pretty tightly closed system.

Your killin it! My highest respects.. hope these questions help...

Aeropro-

Excellent post and Thank you. I have not used a cal mag supplement. Is it something that I need? I'm using AN sensi grow a&b along with AN Conisseur when I flower them.

I have no idea about applied Biology or fishboning. You'll have to elaborate for me.

I'm going to top, and then SCROG them.

The waterfall return from the chiller keeps my res in good shape as far as DO. I have a power head, I just havent added it.

Thanks again and +rep for the info.
 

wbinwv

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I built the 4x5 net this morning. It has 660 2 inch holes!

Supplies



30 minutes later



In my flower room



I left 14 inches between the tubes and the net for pruning, etc.

 

growinman

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:shock:Those are kicking ass beyond words, wbinwv! I just cant get over the fact that you rooted those right there; and they really never stopped growing from when you took them, did they? Now they're kicking ass little bushes!!:hump:

That is a cool and simple screen you made yourself there as well! The legs are a great idea( I usually end up waiting too long and end up screwing it to the wall/hanging it from the ceiling.

Excellent journel!!! +rep4u!

growinman:joint::bigjoint:
 

wbinwv

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Res change yesterday.

Room temp = 70
res temp = 66
ph = 5.8
ppm = 450


They are looking really strong



The roots are already making their way to the nute res



An overhead view. They have been topped.



A view we don't often see; a look from UNDER the plants.




More to come........
 

growinman

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......looks amazing, wbinwv!! Those roots are just unbelievable!
haha, any guess to how many of those 600 holes you'll fill??

I 'd definately say you have had a great 'launch!!'

+rep4u on the great journel!!

growinman
 

AEROPRO

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Hey man, checkin in, looks really great, I'd say they could handle more like 800ppm at this point, so long as you keep you ph in check. mmmmmm 66, they fucking love all that O2 at the root level!

What I was talking about is a product from GH call Subculture-M and Subculture-B. They work really well, specifically with hydro applications with a chiller... because the powder itself is a live culture of several dozen species of living organisims, that promote positive uptake, protect roots from disease, and generate healthy root situations. These basically allow your plants to uptake more, and become more resistant to disease....

As far as what you would see from the Subculture-m in real time,, as in the aqueous roots in the picture you took,, rather then being straight like spaghetti, would instead start to develop in a fishbone type manner. More surface area,, more roots,, more uptake. ie: by fishbone I mean that they would shoot off branches and look like a fish's ribs.
 

wbinwv

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Hey man, checkin in, looks really great, I'd say they could handle more like 800ppm at this point, so long as you keep you ph in check. mmmmmm 66, they fucking love all that O2 at the root level!

What I was talking about is a product from GH call Subculture-M and Subculture-B. They work really well, specifically with hydro applications with a chiller... because the powder itself is a live culture of several dozen species of living organisims, that promote positive uptake, protect roots from disease, and generate healthy root situations. These basically allow your plants to uptake more, and become more resistant to disease....

As far as what you would see from the Subculture-m in real time,, as in the aqueous roots in the picture you took,, rather then being straight like spaghetti, would instead start to develop in a fishbone type manner. More surface area,, more roots,, more uptake. ie: by fishbone I mean that they would shoot off branches and look like a fish's ribs.

Thanks for the explanation. I'm noticing a lot more fishboning in my roots now.

Believe it or not, with the AN nutes they have a touch of burn by moving them to 450.

Earl tried this exact mix and told me to veg between 400 and 600 and what I'm seeing leads me to believe him.

I think a lot depends on the strain, etc, too. There are so many variables.
 

Earl

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I would not use subcuture,
or any other microbes,
in your aero system.

They will gum up the works.
.
 

AEROPRO

Active Member
So true,

When dealing with Aero volatility is always stays a factor. Watch close, back off early. Rock the PH on the money. Don't be afraid to change the res too if paranoid

If Earl says no go with the Subculture then thats what's up. perhaps with the spray heads clogging comes into play, although I use it in my aerocloner without problems.
 

Earl

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If your rots get too long for the tubes,
just lift them up and push them back into the tube.

It is best if you do not allow the roots to grow into the rez.
.
 

wbinwv

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If your rots get too long for the tubes,
just lift them up and push them back into the tube.

It is best if you do not allow the roots to grow into the rez.
.

Why is it best not to allow the roots into the res?
 
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