4271 in play.

GregS

Well-Known Member
Do we get to work, or do we sit on our dead asses? The first hearing in the House Judiciary Committee will be this Thursday, May 23rd, at 9:00 am. Do your homework. There will be a quiz.

HOUSE BILL No. 4271

February 19, 2013, Introduced by Reps. Call
ton, McMillin, Pettalia, Bumstead, Foster,
Daley, Irwin, Dillon, Stanley, Hovey-Wright,
MacMaster, Ananich,
Stallworth, Cavanagh,
Singh, Yonker and Potvin and referred to the Committee on Judiciary.

A bill to regulate medical marihuana provisioning centers and

other related entities; to provide for the powers and duties of

certain state and local governmental officers and entities; to

provide immunity for persons engaging in certain activities in

compliance with this act; to prescribe penalties and sanctions and

provide remedies; and to allow the promulgation of rules.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN ENACT:

Sec. 1. This act shall be known and may be cited as the
1

"medical marihuana provisioning center regulation act".
2

Sec. 2. As used in this act:
3

(a) "Debilitating medical condition" means that term as
4

defined in section 3 of the Michigan medical marihuana act, MCL
5

333.26423.
6

(b) "Excluded felony offense" means a felony involving illegal
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drugs. Excluded felony offense does not include a conviction for
1

activity allowed under the Michigan medical marihuana act or this
2

act, even if the activity occurred before the enactment of this act
3

or the Michigan medical marihuana act.
4

(c) "Marihuana" means that term as defined in section 3 of the
5

Michigan medical marihuana act, MCL 333.26423.
6

(d) "Medical marihuana" means marihuana for medical use as
7

that term is defined in section 3 of the Michigan medical marihuana
8

act, MCL 333.26423.
9

(e) "Medical marihuana provisioning center" or "provisioning
10

center" means a commercial entity located in this state that
11

acquires, possesses, cultivates, manufactures, delivers, transfers,
12

or transports medical marihuana and sells, supplies, or dispenses
13

medical marihuana to registered qualifying patients, directly or
14

through the patients' registered primary caregivers. Provisioning
15

center includes any commercial property where medical marihuana is
16

sold to registered qualifying patients and registered primary
17

caregivers.
18

(f) "Michigan medical marihuana act" means the Michigan
19

medical marihuana act, 2008 IL 1, MCL 333.26421 to 333.26430.
20

(g) "Municipality" means a city, township, or village.
21

(h) "Paraphernalia" means drug paraphernalia as defined in
22

section 7451 of the public health code, 1978 PA 368, MCL 333.7451,
23

that is or may be used in association with medical marihuana.
24

(i) "Provisioning center agent" means a principal officer,
25

board member, employee, or operator, or any other individual acting
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as an agent of a provisioning center.
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(j) "Registered primary caregiver" means a person who has a
1

valid, unexpired registry identification card as a primary
2

caregiver or who satisfies the criteria listed in section 9(b) or
3

(c) of the Michigan medical marihuana act, MCL 333.26429, and
4

possesses the documentation that constitutes a valid registry
5

identification card under that section.
6

(k) "Registered qualifying patient" means a person who meets
7

any of the following requirements:
8

(
i
) Has a valid, unexpired registry identification card as a
9

qualifying patient.
10

(
ii
) Satisfies the criteria listed in section 9(b) or (c) of
11

the Michigan medical marihuana act, MCL 333.26429, and possesses
12

the documentation that constitutes a valid registry identification
13

card under that section.
14

(
l
) "Registry identification card" means that term as defined
15

in section 3 of the Michigan medical marihuana act, MCL 333.26423.
16

(m) "Safety compliance facility" means an entity that tests
17

marihuana produced for medical use for contaminants or potency.
18

(n) "Safety compliance facility agent" means a principal
19

officer, board member, employee, operator, or agent of a safety
20

compliance facility.
21

(o) "Seedling" means a marihuana plant that has no flowers, is
22

less than 12 inches in height, and is less than 12 inches in
23

diameter.
24

(p) "Usable marihuana" means the completely dried leaves and
25

flowers of the marihuana plant but does not include the seeds,
26

stalks, nondried leaves, or roots of the plant. Any cooking mixture
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or preparation used to prepare marihuana infused ingestible or
1

topical products is not usable marihuana, if the ingestible or
2

topical product has or will have the amount of actual marihuana
3

plant material used in its preparation clearly marked on its
4

packaging.
5

(q) "Visiting qualifying patient" means a patient who is not a
6

resident of this state or who has been a resident of this state for
7

less than 30 days and who possesses a registry identification card,
8

or its equivalent, that was issued under the laws of another state,
9

district, territory, commonwealth, or insular possession of the
10

United States and that allows the use of medical marihuana by the
11

patient.
12

Sec. 3. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, if a
13

provisioning center has been granted any applicable required
14

municipal registration or license and is operating in compliance
15

with this act and any applicable municipal ordinance, the
16

provisioning center and the provisioning center agents acting on
17

its behalf are not subject to any of the following for engaging in
18

activities described in subsection (2):
19

(a) Criminal penalties under state law or local ordinances.
20

(b) State or local civil prosecution.
21

(c) Search or inspection, except for an inspection authorized
22

by the municipality.
23

(d) Seizure.
24

(e) Any sanction, including disciplinary action or denial of a
25

right or privilege, by a business or occupational or professional
26

licensing board or bureau.
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(2) Activities that are exempt from regulation and sanctions
1

under subsection (1) include all of the following:
2

(a) Purchasing or receiving marihuana seeds to grow medical
3

marihuana from visiting qualifying patients, registered qualifying
4

patients, registered primary caregivers, or provisioning centers.
5

(b) Purchasing or receiving medical marihuana, including
6

seedlings, from 1 or more other provisioning centers if purchasing
7

or receiving medical marihuana from the provisioning center is not
8

prohibited by the municipality where the provisioning center is
9

located.
10

(c) Purchasing or receiving medical marihuana from a
11

registered qualifying patient or a registered primary caregiver if
12

purchasing or receiving medical marihuana from a registered
13

qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver is not
14

prohibited by the municipality where the provisioning center is
15

located and if the amount purchased does not exceed the registered
16

qualifying patient's or registered primary caregiver's medical
17

marihuana possession limits under the Michigan medical marihuana
18

act.
19

(d) Cultivating or manufacturing medical marihuana.
20

(e) Possessing or manufacturing paraphernalia.
21

(f) Possessing or processing medical marihuana produced by the
22

provisioning center or obtained pursuant to subdivision (a) or (b)
23

on the provisioning center premises or while the medical marihuana
24

is being transported pursuant to this section.
25

(g) If not prohibited by municipal law, transporting medical
26

marihuana, including seedlings, between the provisioning center and
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another provisioning center or a safety compliance facility.
1

(h) Transporting or delivering medical marihuana or
2

paraphernalia to the residence of a registered qualifying patient
3

or a registered primary caregiver if transportation and delivery
4

are not prohibited by the municipality in which the transportation
5

and delivery occur.
6

(i) Supplying, selling, dispensing, transferring, or
7

delivering medical marihuana, paraphernalia, or related supplies
8

and educational materials in compliance with the procedures and
9

limitations detailed in section 7(11) to (13).
10

Sec. 3a. An entity that, on the effective date of this act, is
11

operating in this state as a provisioning center, is operating and
12

continues to operate in compliance with this act, and is not
13

prohibited by any applicable municipal ordinance may continue to
14

operate as a provisioning center under this act. An entity
15

described in this section is considered a provisioning center under
16

this act, and the entity and the agents acting on its behalf are
17

eligible for the immunity provided in this act and are subject to
18

the penalties, sanctions, and remedies prescribed or provided in
19

this act.
20

Sec. 4. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a safety
21

compliance facility that has been granted any applicable required
22

municipal registration or license and is operating in compliance
23

with any applicable municipal ordinance and this act is not subject
24

to any of the following for engaging in activities described in
25

subsection (2):
26

(a) Criminal penalties under state law or local ordinances.
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(b) State or local civil prosecution.
1

(c) Search or inspection, except for an inspection authorized
2

by the municipality.
3

(d) Seizure.
4

(e) Any sanction, including disciplinary action or denial of a
5

right or privilege, by a business or occupational or professional
6

licensing board or bureau.
7

(2) Activities that are exempt from regulation and sanction
8

under subsection (1) include all of the following:
9

(a) Acquiring or possessing medical marihuana obtained from
10

registered qualifying patients, registered primary caregivers, or
11

provisioning centers.
12

(b) Returning the medical marihuana to the registered
13

qualifying patient, registered primary caregiver, or provisioning
14

center that delivered the medical marihuana to the safety
15

compliance facility.
16

(c) Transporting medical marihuana to or from a registered
17

qualifying patient, registered primary caregiver, or provisioning
18

center.
19

(d) Possessing medical marihuana on the safety compliance
20

facility's premises for testing, if the medical marihuana was
21

obtained pursuant to subdivision (a) or (b).
22

(e) Receiving compensation for actions permitted pursuant to
23

this section and municipal law.
24

Sec. 5. (1) A municipality may prohibit the operation of
25

provisioning centers or safety compliance facilities within the
26

municipality. A provisioning center is not exempt under section 3
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from state criminal and civil penalties if it operates in a
1

municipality that prohibits provisioning centers. A safety
2

compliance facility is not exempt under section 4 from state
3

criminal and civil penalties if it operates in a municipality that
4

prohibits safety compliance facilities.
5

(2) A municipality may enact an ordinance to impose and
6

enforce additional local requirements on provisioning centers or
7

safety compliance facilities. A municipality may require and issue
8

a registration or license to a provisioning center or safety
9

compliance facility and may regulate operations and impose civil or
10

criminal penalties for the violations of the local ordinance. A
11

municipality may charge a registration or licensing fee for a
12

provisioning center or safety compliance facility that does not
13

exceed the costs to the municipality of regulation, licensing,
14

testing, and inspection.
15

(3) A provisioning center or safety compliance facility
16

located in a municipality that requires a registration or license
17

is exempt under section 3 or 4 from criminal penalties only if the
18

provisioning center or safety compliance facility holds that
19

license or registration.
20

(4) A municipality may require, as a condition of registration
21

or licensure, that a provisioning center or a safety compliance
22

facility provide results of testing of its medical marihuana and
23

medical marihuana products for quality control, purity,
24

contaminants, or any other analysis to protect the health and
25

safety of registered qualifying patients and to assure compliance
26

with this act and an ordinance adopted by the municipality as
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described in this section.
1

Sec. 6. (1) The exemptions for a provisioning center or safety
2

compliance facility under section 3 or 4 apply only if the
3

indicated activities are carried out in compliance with this act.
4

(2) Except for the Michigan medical marihuana act, all other
5

acts and parts of acts inconsistent with this act do not apply to
6

the use of medical marihuana as provided for by this act.
7

Sec. 7. (1) Unless explicitly allowed by a municipal ordinance
8

that was in effect before the effective date of this act, a
9

provisioning center or a safety compliance facility shall not be
10

located within 1,000 feet of the property line of a preexisting
11

primary or secondary school.
12

(2) A provisioning center shall not share office space with a
13

physician.
14

(3) The premises of a provisioning center shall have a
15

security alarm system that is enabled when a provisioning center
16

agent is not present.
17

(4) A provisioning center shall not sell, transfer, or
18

dispense a marihuana-infused product for use as medical marihuana
19

unless it is labeled with both of the following:
20

(a) The weight of marihuana contained in the product.
21

(b) The words "WARNING: This product contains marihuana. For a
22

registered qualifying patient's medical use only." or substantially
23

similar text.
24

(5) A provisioning center shall not advertise medical
25

marihuana for sale on a billboard, television, or radio. The
26

department of licensing and regulatory affairs may promulgate rules
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restricting advertising of medical marihuana. The rules shall not
1

prohibit appropriate signs on the property of a provisioning
2

center, internet websites for a provisioning center or registered
3

primary caregiver, listings in business directories or telephone
4

books, listings in trade or medical print or online publications,
5

or advertising the sponsorship of health or not-for-profit charity
6

or advocacy events.
7

(6) A provisioning center or safety compliance facility shall
8

not knowingly employ an individual who has been convicted of an
9

excluded felony offense during the immediately preceding 10-year
10

period or who is under 21 years of age. A provisioning center or
11

safety compliance facility shall perform a background check on an
12

individual before he or she is offered employment to verify that he
13

or she has not been convicted of an excluded felony offense during
14

the immediately preceding 10-year period.
15

(7) A provisioning center shall maintain records listing each
16

individual employed by the provisioning center, including the
17

beginning employment date and the date a background check was
18

performed.
19

(8) A provisioning center shall not allow on-site consumption
20

of medical marihuana, except that a provisioning center agent or
21

employee who is a registered qualifying patient may be permitted to
22

use a medical marihuana-infused topical product.
23

(9) A provisioning center shall not dispense more than 2.5
24

ounces of useable marihuana in any 10-day period to a registered
25

qualifying patient, directly or through his or her registered
26

primary caregiver.
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(10) A provisioning center shall ensure compliance with the
1

dispensing limit under subsection (9) by maintaining internal,
2

confidential dispensing records that specify the amount of medical
3

marihuana dispensed to each registered qualifying patient and
4

registered primary caregiver and whether it was dispensed directly
5

to the registered qualifying patient or the registered primary
6

caregiver. Each entry shall include the date and time the medical
7

marihuana was dispensed. Entries shall be maintained for at least
8

90 days. For any registered qualifying patient or registered
9

qualifying caregiver in possession of a registry identification
10

card, a record shall be kept using the patient's or caregiver's
11

registry identification card number instead of the patient's or
12

caregiver's name. Confidential dispensing records under this act
13

are subject to reasonable inspection by a municipal employee
14

authorized to inspect provisioning centers under municipal law to
15

ensure compliance with this act, but may be stored off-site.
16

Confidential dispensing records under this act are exempt from
17

disclosure under the freedom of information act, 1976 PA 442, MCL
18

15.231 to 15.246. Except as otherwise required by a court order, a
19

provisioning center shall not disclose confidential dispensing
20

records to any person other than a municipal employee performing an
21

inspection in compliance with this subsection or to a provisioning
22

center agent.
23

(11) A provisioning center agent shall not dispense, transfer,
24

or sell medical marihuana to an individual knowing that the
25

individual is not a registered qualifying patient, registered
26

primary caregiver, or provisioning center agent working on behalf
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of a provisioning center that is not prohibited from operating or
1

obtaining medical marihuana from other provisioning centers under
2

municipal law.
3

(12) Before medical marihuana is dispensed or sold from a
4

provisioning center, in addition to complying with subsection (13),
5

a provisioning center agent shall do 1 of the following:
6

(a) Verify that the individual requesting medical marihuana
7

holds what the provisioning center agent reasonably believes to be
8

a valid, unexpired registry identification card.
9

(b) Require the individual requesting medical marihuana to do
10

all of the following:
11

(
i
) Certify that he or she is a qualifying patient who
12

submitted a valid, complete application for a registry
13

identification card under the Michigan medical marihuana act at
14

least 20 days earlier.
15

(
ii
) Certify that, to the best of his or her knowledge, this
16

state has not denied the application described in subparagraph (
i
)
17

or issued a registry identification card.
18

(
iii
) Present a copy of the completed registry identification
19

card application and proof of receipt by the state department that
20

processes medical marihuana registry identification card
21

applications at least 20 days before the date of the requested sale
22

or transaction.
23

(c) If the individual requesting medical marihuana indicates
24

that he or she is a provisioning center agent, make a diligent,
25

good-faith effort to verify that the individual is a provisioning
26

center agent for a provisioning center that is allowed to operate
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by a municipality.
1

(13) Before medical marihuana is dispensed or sold from a
2

provisioning center, a provisioning center agent shall make a
3

diligent, good-faith effort to determine that the individual named
4

in the registry identification card or other documentation
5

submitted under subsection (12) is the individual seeking to obtain
6

medical marihuana, by examining what the provisioning center agent
7

reasonably believes to be valid government-issued photo
8

identification.
9

(14) An individual who is under 21 years of age or who has
10

been convicted of an excluded felony offense during the immediately
11

preceding 10-year period shall not serve as a provisioning center
12

agent or safety compliance facility agent. An individual who has
13

not maintained a residence in this state for 2 years or more shall
14

not serve as a principal officer, board member, or operator of a
15

provisioning center or of a safety compliance facility.
16

(15) A provisioning center agent shall not, for monetary
17

compensation, refer an individual to a physician.
18

(16) A provisioning center or safety compliance facility shall
19

not permit a physician to advertise in a provisioning center or
20

safety compliance facility or to hold any financial interest in or
21

receive any compensation from the provisioning center or safety
22

compliance facility.
23

(17) A provisioning center agent or safety compliance facility
24

agent shall not transport or possess medical marihuana on behalf of
25

the provisioning center or safety compliance facility in or upon a
26

motor vehicle or any self-propelled vehicle designed for land
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travel unless all of the following conditions are met:
1

(a) The agent possesses a document signed and dated by a
2

manager or operator of the provisioning center or safety compliance
3

facility that employs the agent, stating the agent's name, the date
4

the medical marihuana will be transported, the approximate amount
5

of medical marihuana transported, and the name of the provisioning
6

center or safety compliance facility from which the medical
7

marihuana is being transported.
8

(b) The medical marihuana is located in 1 or more of the
9

following:
10

(
i
) An enclosed locked container, such as a safe, briefcase, or
11

other case.
12

(
ii
) The trunk of the vehicle.
13

(
iii
) A space that is inaccessible from the passenger
14

compartment of the vehicle.
15

Sec. 8. (1) A provisioning center that violates section 7(1)
16

or (2) is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be
17

ordered to pay a civil fine of not more than $5,000.00. A city or
18

county in which the provisioning center or safety compliance
19

facility operates in violation of section 7(1) or (2) may petition
20

the court for an injunction to close the provisioning center or
21

safety compliance facility.
22

(2) A person who violates section 7(3) to (10), (15), or (16)
23

is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be ordered to
24

pay a civil fine of not more than $1,000.00.
25

(3) A person who transfers medical marihuana in violation of
26

section 7(11) to (13) or who works in violation of section 7(14) is
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not exempt from arrest, prosecution, or criminal or other penalties
1

under section 3 or 4.
2

(4) A person who violates section 7(17) is guilty of a
3

misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 30 days or
4

a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.
5

Sec. 9. (1) A municipality may establish procedures to suspend
6

or revoke a registration, license, or other permission to operate
7

if a provisioning center knowingly or negligently allows medical
8

marihuana to be dispensed to an individual who is not a registered
9

qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver or if a
10

provisioning center or safety compliance facility commits multiple
11

or serious violations of this act or local ordinances.
12

(2) This act does not require the violation of federal law and
13

does not give immunity from prosecution under federal law.
14

(3) This act does not prevent federal enforcement of federal
15

law.
16

Sec. 10. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a
17

visiting qualifying patient, registered qualifying patient, or
18

registered primary caregiver who supplies, sells, transfers, or
19

delivers marihuana seeds to a provisioning center that is
20

registered, licensed, or otherwise allowed by the municipality in
21

which it operates in compliance with this act is not subject to any
22

of the following for engaging in that activity:
23

(a) Criminal penalties under state law or local ordinances.
24

(b) State or local civil prosecution.
25

(c) Search or inspection, except for an inspection authorized
26

by the municipality.
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(d) Seizure.
1

(e) Any sanction, including disciplinary action or denial of a
2

right or privilege, by a business or occupational or professional
3

licensing board or bureau.
4

(2) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a registered
5

qualifying patient is not subject to any of the inspections or
6

sanctions listed in subsection (1)(a) to (e) for any of the
7

following:
8

(a) Purchasing or acquiring not more than 2.5 ounces of usable
9

marihuana from 1 or more provisioning centers within a 10-day
10

period.
11

(b) Supplying, selling, transferring, or delivering medical
12

marihuana to a provisioning center that is registered, licensed, or
13

otherwise allowed by the municipality in which it operates if all
14

of the following requirements are met:
15

(
i
) The medical marihuana was produced by the registered
16

qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver.
17

(
ii
) The municipality in which the provisioning center operates
18

allows the transfer of medical marihuana from a registered
19

qualifying patient to a provisioning center.
20

(
iii
) The amount of medical marihuana transferred does not
21

exceed the amount of medical marihuana the registered qualifying
22

patient is allowed to possess under the Michigan medical marihuana
23

act.
24

(3) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a registered
25

primary caregiver is not subject to any of the inspections or
26

sanctions listed in subsection (1)(a) to (e) for any of the
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following:
1

(a) Purchasing or acquiring from 1 or more provisioning
2

centers not more than 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana in a 10-day
3

period on behalf of a registered qualifying patient who has
4

designated the registered primary caregiver on his or her
5

application to the state department administering the medical
6

marihuana program under the Michigan medical marihuana act.
7

(b) Supplying, selling, transferring, or delivering medical
8

marihuana to a provisioning center that is registered, licensed, or
9

otherwise allowed by the municipality in which it operates if all
10

of the following requirements are met:
11

(
i
) The medical marihuana was produced by the registered
12

primary caregiver and is excess medical marihuana above the amount
13

necessary to satisfy the needs of the registered qualifying
14

patients the primary caregiver is designated to serve.
15

(
ii
) The municipality in which the provisioning center operates
16

allows the transfer of medical marihuana from a registered primary
17

caregiver to a provisioning center.
18

(
iii
) The amount of medical marihuana transferred does not
19

exceed the amount of medical marihuana the registered primary
20

caregiver is allowed to possess under the Michigan medical
21

marihuana act.
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
There are a lot of twists in the bill. Any attempt to paraphrase is likely to omit important facets. Please pour yourself a cuppa coffee, and take the time to read it. I am confident that astute people will chime in here, and look forward to it myself.
 

treetopmmmp

Active Member
allows the transfer of medical marihuana
from a registered primary
caregiver to a
provisioning center.
I didn't read whole thing but the above part
sounds ok. I hope there's nothing in the parts
I skipped over banning the growing of meds in
ones own home or any other ridiculous bullshit.
It would also be nice if they threw in something
about making patient to patient transfers legal
or at the very least, making caregiver to ANY
patient or caregiver legal. Of course the people
that paid to get this bill introduced probably wouldn't
be happy with that:mrgreen: I prefer the farmers market
model which should be addressed and made risk free
for all.

I hope they don't pull a Colorado and require cameras in grow
rooms monitored by the government. If that were to happen,
I'd be doing a lot of medicating, masturbating, and pooping on
poster sized pics of BillyS:twisted:

treetopmmmp
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
"allows the transfer of medical marihuana
from a registered primary
caregiver to a
provisioning center."

This bill also allows the provisioning centers to cultivate their own marijuana .... which is where the money is at. They will have a network of warehouses cropping their own stuff and pocketing the $400+ an ounce they charge as opposed to paying caregivers $200+ and selling it for the same price.

As long as I do not have my rights to grow fucked with I guess I really don't care too much about this. I can't see why anyone in their right mind would rely on one of these places for meds anyway.
 

Rare D MI

New Member
Recording of all transactions by card #, and making them available for an inspector to look at for 90 days after the transaction...

provisioning centers having to be 1,000 feet away from each other...

There are more, I don't feel like picking through it right now. I have work to do.
 

SativAHHH

Active Member
this creates a commercial grow opportunity, which will keep prices higher, or even if they go lower..the quality goes with it.
this bill creates another rift in already passed legislation. if a caregiver cannot sell to anyone at all except his direct patients, then this bill does no good as the other bill has precedence and court cases pending with caregivers being rung through the system..its easier to allow patient to patient transfers without commerical grows, this keeps the cannabis quality in the hands of the grower,not the seller, yet still allowing dispensaries. there are other laws that need to be addressed before this one. Regulation could be easier acheived if congress didnt draft legislation and let the people work out a bill for congress to vote on...but the last time that happened, the mmma was created with alot of gray areas that lead to peoples arrests.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
Politics and commercialism , hand in hand working to make the rich richer and the poor poorer sad to say .
I think I am going to go puke now !:spew:
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
its all in addition to the original act. not a change, we all still have the way we do now to fall back on. don't be scared, its just more ways to buy sell transfer and acquire pot on top of the way we do it now.
 

somepotname

Active Member
For non provisioning center owning caregivers this bill gives us the added option of selling to PC's on top of our five patients. It also fixes the issue the edibles, counting only the cannabis in the edible as opposed to the entire edible towards your weight. One thing to realize with this bill is that as written it wouldn't allow PC's in the state of Michigan but rather leave it up to each city, town, or village, as to whether or not they allow them. This bill just provides them with a framework, which in my opinion would be helpful seeing as most politicians don't like sticking there necks out when it comes to putting out bills allowing and regulating marijuana.
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
This was the only way to alter the act, by saying they didn't... but it will change things. caregivers not being able to continue in conflict with continued zoning related to these dispensaries, that may become an issue for some. any version of commercial-style grows is my idea of a nightmare, but eventually we all get endoctrinated into walmart's ways and kick mom and pop in the teeth in the process.

I didn't used to have a problem with the middlemen/provision centers. Now that I see the pressure and scrutiny they bring into legitimate caregiver's lives, I'm very skeptical of any good that really comes from them. I'm positive that all provision centers have no problem low-ballin' caregivers (until they have zero use for them) or throwing them under the bus, in any manner, just to further their cause. IMO Cali and CO are a mess and it has a lot to do with a small portion of the people in this game going out of their way for big money.
 

Rising Moon

Well-Known Member
I think this is going to be a good thing in the end.

I work at an indoor garden shop, and you would never believe the amount of "caregivers" (mom and pop) that come through the door looking for bug bombs, chemicals and generally have NO idea what they are doing, what they are growing or that it is indeed MEDICINE.

If this bill passes I know a bunch of GOOD ORGANIC growers that would jump all over the opportunity to provide REAL medicine to the people.

Because most of the "meds" I see look like shit and were grown with the same...You wanna talk big money... think Potassium Nitrates and Dow chemical...

Time for 'Mom and Pop' to step out of the way and time for the real farmers committed to growing high quality Organic meds to start showing MI what things are really all about.

If a PC opens that ONLY sells High Quality, Affordable, Organic medicine, it would be very successful.
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
you're right a lot of ppl that don't know their ass from a donkey walk through garden center doors everywhere. It's the clerks job to teach them healthy ways while selling them a bunch of extra garbage in the process. this industry is filled with hypocrites.

why spread the resources evenly throughout the state, when you can concentrate it for the few neon sign money grubbers? Implying caregivers have dirty meds ^ is exactly the type of throwing CG's 'under the bus' like I was talking about stoolie!
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
its all in addition to the original act. not a change, we all still have the way we do now to fall back on. don't be scared, its just more ways to buy sell transfer and acquire pot on top of the way we do it now.
Methinks it is a more complicated matter. 4271, along with restrictive local ordinances, has the potential to destroy the pt/cg model. If a municipality were to permit these provisioning centers and enforce ordinances that prohibit pts and cgs from engaging in medical use, which many of those ordinances do, everyone gets fucked. Everyone, that is, except the government and commercial people. We will end up paying double what we pay currently under the MMA and have no legal option to procure cannabis from any source other than these centers. The SC will be ruling on ordinances, and that will likely take months. If 4271 is passed, and the Court permits the use of ordinances and moratoria, look for your local community to tell you to get bent.
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
Per the decision in McQueen, we are not permitted to buy and sell cannabis to or from anyone but registry connected individuals. The two laws cannot exist together. Look for the provision to permit pts and cgs to sell to PCs to be trashed in a hurry.
 

Rising Moon

Well-Known Member
Maybe Im just a snob, but at the end of the day, its going to be about quality, variety and price.

If a PC can provide all three, the individual caregivers will just have to step up their game, go bigger or just go personal.

There will always be money and big guys and small ones.... one example would be... did Kendall Jackson ruin the Wine industry? I dont think so..

In fact they introduced the idea of 'good' wine to grocery stores across the world, and guess what, there are still PLENTY of very small Vineyards that only sell locally, that benefited from Kendall educating the consumer.

I see Cannabis as following a similar trajectory to the wine industry, small farm CSA's and Co-op run organizations, if recreational/medical use continues to be legitimized.
 
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