600W Purple Kush Scrog

warisnottheanswer said:

hows that canna workin for u? i was thinkin about gettin theyre nutes for my next go round

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Hi 'iagree', don't know, let's find out together
So far I'm noticing that it I have to use a little ph up since the nutes drop my ph to about 3.6 in RO?! Makes me wonder if got by accident their Hard water nutes, I'll check in a minute.
I used AN Sensi for my last grow and they balanced themselves rather well, a view drops of ph down and I was done lol.

Unity

unity said:

Hi 'iagree', don't know, let's find out together
So far I'm noticing that it I have to use a little ph up since the nutes drop my ph to about 3.6 in RO?! Makes me wonder if got by accident their Hard water nutes, I'll check in a minute.
I used AN Sensi for my last grow and they balanced themselves rather well, a view drops of ph down and I was done lol.

Unity

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interesting

Checked, it's Canna Aqua Vega. Doesn't have any additional remarks.
I'm not going to worry about it, I add a little bit of Pro-tect (Silica) which brings up the ph on its own and its also good for the new roots.

I noticed more drooping, I think I'm going to keep the watering down to about 20sec every 30min. for now. The problem is the rockwool cubes the plants are in, they become easily saturated and with the plants being little they get drunk in a hurry. it will take probably another week for the plants to grow a big enough root zone into the hydroton before they can handle more frequent watering. I'll keep an eye on it.

the rockwool can mess with the ph, will be watching!!!

bikeskill said:

the rockwool can mess with the ph, will be watching!!!

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Man Do I ever hear you mate lol! And not just the ph, EC can quadruple in under week if there is not enough 'run-off' I have learned the hard way as with most lessons in my life.
I hate the shit, I swear, I'll make me an airo cloner with starter plugs lol.

Unity

Cutting back my watering schedule some more, they are starting to come up but look still rather drunk drunk.
I took a view pics with my phone (sorry) and the hps off, it confirmed what I thought, they are starting to become mg deficient. I'm at 1.0 EC right now, and will add 2ml/g cal/mag and 1ml/g A/B which brings my EC to 1.3. They have a very bright almost neon green color. They are growing rapidly, we will see how they handle it, the whole key to making the co2 thing work is to keep all factors optimized. I can see already that they will need close attention, especially with the nutes.

Unity

Checked into Canna Aqua, and sure thing, it's a common problem and mg supplementation is necessary. I also found out that the Canna Aqua is a 'universal' feed meaning it is designed for all types of water hardness and therefore is not a very good choice for very soft or very hard water. Which would explain why it is dropping my ph to 3.6 when using RO (very soft) water.
I have decided to switch back to Sensi Grow at my next res change, for now I'm adding back with AN Sensi Grow.
I upped my EC to 1.4 since my ppms are dropping in my res faster then the water.

Unity

unity said:

Hi Jash, jump aboard mate lol! I wish you the best of ganja luck with your height issues, I posted you a comment in your threat.

Unity

PS: I love the "craigslist chair story" lol!

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lol stumble upon landed me that one lol.

glad you figuared out the problem with the water and feed. how big are the buckets your using? 5gallon?

Jash1297 said:

glad you figuared out the problem with the water and feed. how big are the buckets your using? 5gallon?

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Naa, I think they are like a gallon or a little more.

These are 2 mothers I decided to flower out along with my scrog. One is a Purple Kush, the other one is a Strawberry Cough Chocolate Chunk. They still look hungry, even though I upped my EC to 1.4. I'll give them another day before I adjust up if I have to. They are slowly coming out of their MG def. I think.

Here is the rest of the family
The def. is very apparent, I'm also glad to see that my adjustments are bringing them out of it

It is amazing how thick these leafs are getting, big as well, but way thicker then without co2.
They are certainly still very light in color though, I think this is going to be one hungry ass strain lol.
Unity

unity said:

Here is the rest of the family
The def. is very apparent, I'm also glad to see that my adjustments are bringing them out of it

It is amazing how thick these leafs are getting, big as well, but way thicker then without co2.
They are certainly still very light in color though, I think this is going to be one hungry ass strain lol.
Unity

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they lookin real real nice!

warisnottheanswer said:

they lookin real real nice!

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Well, not yet, but thanks for the kind words
Getting them off to a good start is so important, but I got at least another 14 days of veg ahead, hopefully they will have fully recovered by then.

Unity

I mixed me up a new res today, really was not happy with Canna Aqua, poor choice with RO water. If you have to start at PH 3.6 once the nutes are in, I would say let's look for something more suitable right from the get go.

Either way, AN Sensi Grow is what I mixed up and bam, no ph adjusting necessary. Comes out to PH 5.69 after 7ml A/B I also added 5ml Cal Mag. EC 1.58is a bit higher then I wanted it at this point, but they want it so far. I'll keep my eye on them.

How are you liking the sensi grow? Im using foxfarms products right now but am keeping an eye out for somthing better

Jash1297 said:

How are you liking the sensi grow? Im using foxfarms products right now but am keeping an eye out for somthing better

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Hi Jash, It has been about 18 hours since my res change. It looks like they are starting to green up a bit. My res. is running in balance so far, at least within a couple of ppms. Yesterday it was at EC 1.585, today it is at EC 1.592 without topping of water, that's pretty darn close. I hope they are not going to burn.

You are in soil though, right?! I need to go check your thread lol.

AN Sensi has been a good product, maybe a bit heavy on the N, but that can be adjusted. This is a experimental grow for me, I will not use ANY addetives other then pk13/14 during mid flowering and h202 @ 1.7 ml/g (35%) every 3 days.

Unity

Here are some pics, I think they are on track for a full recovery, if not, I'll be starting over in a week. I should never have gone forward with the Canna Aqua nutes. It has been 4 days since I started to take corrective measures, but only one day since I switched to AN Sensi.
What do you guys think, do they look like recovering patients or are they on the road to hell lol? I feel like I have done all I can for the love of my bud lol.


Unity: hug:

I'm finally getting healthy new growth
I also noticed to my dismay that my ph meter was reading .6 high What can I say, just check your meters weekly lol!

My EC is going up by about 40ppm over 24 hours, so for now I have hit my sweet spot at about 1.5 EC

Unity