A Typical Grafting Idea

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Grafting Q #1:

So i've been thinking about 'grafting' and I have this idea that's not really grafting. But it's very much like it. Quintessentially the idea is to force multiple plants to grow together into a fused single plant at the base to create a 'shared root & stalk system'.

Personally I plan to run a bubbleponics in an "X" and "+" grid so each 'plant' in a '4-fuzed' bucket (see what I'm getting at?) maximizes space used for a SCRoG like this:

X+X+
+X+X
X+X+

With each character above representing for plants from seed or clone tied together at the base of the stem forcing them to 'graft' or fuze together into a 'single plant'.

Any cardholder can see what I'm trying to fudge for here.

Think LE would buy it or even notice?

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Grafting Q#2:
Along the same lines but for an entirely different purpose.

I was thinking of a SoG grafted similarily in a trained 'S2S2S2' (representing a side view) to cause each plant in a row to both use training teqniques used to shorten plants but also fuse them together in such a way that they can all share each
other's root systems.

Would this provide any benefit by allowing more vigorously growing plants to allow those lagging behind to 'leech' off their vigor and keep the SoG growing evenly? it my theory and I intend to test it after I get some seed stock and clones developed. Just looking for some opinions, suggestions, "Hey watch out for (insert warning/known problem here)", etc.

Mostly thinking that the shared lower leaf system will increase potency. by allowing the networked plant system to share production needs.

I also had the thought the plants on the end might gain more simple by less direct sharing and thought about grafting this into a 'circle' instead of a row.

TIA
 

billy4479

Moderator
Grafts are slow to heal and can die or the graft can be rejected at any time by the plants , you be better off growing big plants if it takes you 8 weeks to flower you should be vegging that whole time..
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Traditional grafts require slicing a part of a plant and making a clone take 'root' onto the true plant's wound. This idea is more about forcing 4 truly rooted and grown independent plants to 'grow together' at the base/root/stalk without causing artificial grafting damage that is necessary to feed nutrition & water to the grafted clone.

I don't think the traditional risks of grafting are present here because the plants will, without any artificially induced skin damage grow themselves into each other much as plants normally do in nature (though most commonly seen in trees which are less mobile than vegetative plants). This being done simply by planting four seeds or clones and tying them tighter together during the first few weeks of veg and then horizontal training sometime during wk. 3

Still, I think the prospect of quadrupling one's crop size while staying in limits warrants consideration over trying to maximize genetics. Furthermore, trying to simply 'grow big plant genetics' restricts one from connoisseur varieties that might be more relevant to a patient.
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Uh, did someone edit my title? It was correct the way it was "Atypical" not "A typical" as in 'not typical.' Or herein, grafting but for different than is commonly discussed purpose/method.
 

Jason2011

Active Member
Traditional grafts require slicing a part of a plant and making a clone take 'root' onto the true plant's wound. This idea is more about forcing 4 truly rooted and grown independent plants to 'grow together' at the base/root/stalk without causing artificial grafting damage that is necessary to feed nutrition & water to the grafted clone.

I don't think the traditional risks of grafting are present here because the plants will, without any artificially induced skin damage grow themselves into each other much as plants normally do in nature (though most commonly seen in trees which are less mobile than vegetative plants). This being done simply by planting four seeds or clones and tying them tighter together during the first few weeks of veg and then horizontal training sometime during wk. 3

Still, I think the prospect of quadrupling one's crop size while staying in limits warrants consideration over trying to maximize genetics. Furthermore, trying to simply 'grow big plant genetics' restricts one from connoisseur varieties that might be more relevant to a patient.
i think that rather that grafting you would be better off growing 4 within close proximity of each other and merging/growing them into one plant.
its part of the search for the answer too the million dollar question - how to more buds in less time from smaller plants
 

Jason2011

Active Member
i would plant 4 a cpl mm's apart and while the stems are still soft/malleable would perhaps try tying them together and see the results.
perhaps waiting for the true leaves and to form
or even wiaitng for the first cpl of branches and scrap a little of 1/4 of each stem facing in to give them a place to meld into each other ?
 

euthanatos93420

Well-Known Member
Yeah that's the idea. Get em just into veg and tie em together with a twisty tie. I think they'll fuze within a week and then once they're a foot or so tall start training em to grow horizontally.

Would having 4 roots clustered into one net-pot cause the plant's roots to struggle even in a bubblponics? Would having larger netpots help?
 

Jason2011

Active Member
if you had a big enough pot i dont see why they would
and if you lst them out wards say 1/4 of the circle to each plant would the roots grow following the growth above ground ?
ie. if you plant a plant at 12 oclock in the pot and lst it out wards towards 12 oclock would this hinder the plant more than if planted at 6 oclock in the pot and lst'd out towards 12 oclock
 
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