Advantage V. disadvantage CFL's

lastfrontier said:

you see it seem to me that people feel that if you give it the most intense light you can find and the best hydro setup that it equils dank fat buds and that is simpley not true.


CFL's do not have the danger or heat problems that HPS and MH have also it cost more all around to dissapate the heat and the smell with it also CFL's are self ballest in most cases and there are so many that if one goes out you dont have to shell up 150.00 or 250.00 or what if the ballast goes out what if either of them fail while you are out of town and you loose the crop if one or two fail then i loose a few lumens and keep on rockin again consider the fire danger while you are gone a fan can fail of trip the braker also they use less wattage and you are able to spread the light as you see fit in most cases instead of coming from a central location high above i will say in defence of the production grower large intense lights are a good and usefull thing because it cuts down on the doliers per OZ of production that in my opinion is the onley time you would need the extra lumens i my self will never grow more then 14 plants at a time i get around 3-5 OZ per plant with that light at 14 plants only geting 3 OZ per is still 42 OZ every 4 months what the hell will i do with all that and i am only using about 420-680 watts when you have MH and HPS you are stuck with on or two kelvin ratings and that is it with CFL's i can swap the kelvin rating as i see fit mabey i want to flower at 2100 kelvin mabey i like 6500 kelvin for veg or mabey i want to try 4500 kelvin for veg and see if i get a better sun leaf with CFL's there is room for discovery and creativity we know that all strands are not the same and come from diffrent parts of the world mabey you would like to plant all dark purple indiga and the next crop you want to plant a virgin sativa they have diffrent requirments for light and with CFL's you can provide that with half the cost just remember people that the higher you go in watts when buyin a single CFL bulb the lower you go in lumens per watt stay at 26-55 watts and that is the best spot to stay...................... here are the periods that belong up there disperse them as you please

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use a period you dick

how many people have knocked you for ur punctuation, no offense but its retarded. i'm sure punctuation for beginners is available at most book store, buy one of them instead of more growin equipment.

I thought retarded was... you know... stupid is as stupid does.

garden knome rock on brother i have put in the time to read your book and have tried your method and i find it to be great and very effective and have even found people who have had equal or better weight i my self no longer grow that way i still use cfl's and i get great amounts with little effort and i thank you for your time to write it dont let the haters get you down...

is that all you have to write about what a wast of time and server space blow some green and calm down looser here are some periods and such put them where you please if you are so concerned about it.................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

i was just wondering if u can post how u set ur grow setup i would like to set mines up like urs.

Rasta%kev said:

i was just wondering if u can post how u set ur grow setup i would like to set mines up like urs.

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who are you talking to ??

brookstown said:

bulll shitttt no way your gonna get 3 oz from any plant from cfl's. no way no way no how. if you vegged for 2 months that plant is still only gonna be about 20 inches tall and you don't have the power to flower 3 zips from one plant that's only 20 inches tall noway homie.

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Excuse me, but you obviously have never grown with CFL, as you don't know what you're talking about. My first full size CFL only got tall enough that I had go trim it weekly so it wouldn't end up in the living room... That's 6+ ft tall. If I'd vegged for 2 months, then it would have been in the attic. From 1 CFL grown plant I got 14 oz. I regularly get 8-9 oz from .5 square meters.
from where did you get that info? Who ever laid that on you never grew with CFL's either. I veg cuttings for 2 weeks, then to flower, and they get up to 18 in tall, AND I can get over an oz from each. Imo you should really research thge subject before making statements that are patently false...

i use a 600 watt hps in a small closet,approx 3.5x4.5 on the 2nd floor of a cape cod house,the light does put off heat.to control the issue,i use a 4 inch computer fan to blow in to the flange and a 4 inch inline fan exhausting the heat into a smaller clone room.the clones seem to take the higher temps from the grow light exhaust the closet door is open during "daylight" period of flowering. there,s also a small double window fan on the floor standing upright blowing on the digital ballast. the air circulates well and keeps the temp between 75 and 85 degrees with average 40 percent humidity.plants are healthy going into 5th week of flowering.

i get about 2 g's per watt under cfls per watt if you know haw you can get more with cfls or atleast i get more than my friend who uses a massive hps (1000watts) the weed is more crystally too even tho its the same strain they even ccloned from the same mother plant... guess its the lights

lastfrontier

im curious, have you ever heard of PUR ?

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How many bulb do you need to grow cfl weed

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No what is is will it help with grow of weed

lastfrontier said:

the higher you go in watts when buyin a single CFL bulb the lower you go in lumens per watt stay at 26-55 watts and that is the best spot to stay.

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Seems like 23W,1650L and 29W,2200? are the best for L/W.

Make sure you calculate the lumen per watt by dividing the lumens per watts. For example some 29w only give 1900L, 65 L/W. But the 29W,2200L puts out 75 L/W.

You see, it seems to me that people feel that if you give it the most intense light you can find and the best hydro setup, that it equals dank fat buds. That is simply not true.


CFL's do not have the danger or heat problems that HPS and MH have. Also, HPS and MH cost more all around to dissapate the heat and the smell associated with it. CFL's are self ballasted in most cases and there are so many that if one goes out you don't have to shell up 150.00 or 250.00. What if the ballast goes out or what if either of them fail while you are out of town? You loose the crop. If one or two fail, then i loose a few lumens and keep on rocking! Again, consider the fire danger while you are gone. A fan can fail or trip the breaker. Also, they use less wattage and you are able to spread the light as you see fit instead of coming from a central location high above. I will say in defence of the production grower, large intense lights are a good and usefull thing because it cuts down on the dollars per OZ of production. That, in my opinion, is the only time you would need the extra lumens. I myself will never grow more than 14 plants at a time, from which I get around 3-5 OZ per plant with that light. At 14 plants only geting 3 OZ per plant is still 42 OZ every 4 months! What the hell will i do with all that? I am only using about 420-680 watts. When you have MH and HPS you are stuck with one or two kelvin ratings and that is it. With CFL's, I can swap the kelvin rating as i see fit: maybe I want to flower at 2100 kelvin, maybe I like 6500 kelvin for veg, or maybe I want to try 4500 kelvin for veg and see if i get a result.

With CFL's there is room for discovery and creativity. We know that all strains are not the same and come from different parts of the world. Maybe you would like to plant all dark purple indiga and the next crop you want to plant a virgin sativa. They have different requirements for light and with CFL's you can provide that with half the cost. Just remember people that the higher you go in watts when buyin a single CFL bulb the lower you go in lumens per watt. Stay at 26-55 watts and that is the best spot to stay...................... Here are the periods that belong up there disperse them as you please!

^well, I figure if thats going to be a sticky, might as well make it legible lol

Hey LastFrontier,.....I enjoyed your post bro.