Anybody Want To Double Their Yield?- Desertrat's Top and Prune?

stowandgrow

Active Member
To the Hockey guy in this thread. GO HAWKS!

Been way to long since they won.

And nice post desertrat. I never really prune anything on my plants that doesn't need it. To each their own. I might give it a shot next time to slow down the main shoots, just for experimentation factor. When I top, usually two of the main shoots are a bit taller then the others, I guess this is one way of slowing them down to keep them at the same height.

Both you and UB are great growers with a lot of knowledge. You guys need to burn one together. lol
HAHA! I was glad to see Chicago win as well. I'm a bit of a hockey purest, so I'm always happy when an original six team wins it all.
 

desertrat

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honestly, i don't know if it would help outdoors in most situations. the main benefit of doing this pruning is it creates lots of growth tips all within the same distance of the light, increasing the efficiency of the light a lot. the sun's intensity is almost the same whether 1 foot off the ground or ten feet, so it doesn't do any good if a couple of growth tips are a little closer to the sun.

this method does seem to boost the growth of side branches without regard to how much light they're getting - side branches appear to get more nutrients than they were getting before pruning, so this would apply to outdoors. worth doing one plant to see the effect.
 

lordj

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Hey, UB and Desertrat,

Is there a list of pot strains that are good for topping and NOT good for topping? I hear Blueberry should be topped but wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
 

desertrat

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just an update on the two lowryders' progress. they are both fattening up nicely and still seem to have a couple of weeks to go, but for consumption reasons i don't know if i'm going that long.

plant that was topped only:

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plant that was topped and pruned(the greener growth in the top right is a different plant):

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want to bet against a much higher yield from topping/pruning?
 

ColaFarmer

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Can't argue with the technique, the proof is in the pictures. I'm going to give this a try next time for sure. Thank you! :leaf:
 

tj.shulman

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Very interesting desertrat. I gave this a go with one of my 3 week old lowryder2 x AK47 plants, it will be interesting to see what the difference is. I hear that even topping alone isn`t recommended for dwarf autos but it`s worth a go.

Do I continue to snip the fan leaves from the main stalk as they grow?
I don`t touch the leaves on the secondary stalks right?
 

desertrat

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hear that even topping alone isn`t recommended for dwarf autos but it`s worth a go.
it was a seed bank mystery seed, if I had known it was a lowryder I would have chosen something else - instead of adding new growth tips it made one really huge cola with multiple heads - a real mutant but it happened on both topped and pruned plants.

do I continue to snip the fan leaves from the main stalk as they grow?
I don`t touch the leaves on the secondary stalks right?
no, you only cut the one time. And yes, just the main stalk. Four or five leaves is all we're talking about.
 

tj.shulman

Active Member
it was a seed bank mystery seed, if I had known it was a lowryder I would have chosen something else - instead of adding new growth tips it made one really huge cola with multiple heads - a real mutant but it happened on both topped and pruned plants.

no, you only cut the one time. And yes, just the main stalk. Four or five leaves is all we're talking about.
Good good!
So the 4 leaves I have cut + the top is all that I need to do you reckon?
No more even as the plant grows?
 

YungMoolaBaby

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REMEMBER THIS?
Check this out:

Before


After


This is a pic of defoliation from a user named lifeless on icmag. Now, this is a fact when I say the after pic shows that the light will DEFINITELY penetrate deeper into the plant because there is less shading in the canopy. that is a fact.
HERE IS HIS 40 DAY UPDATE:

Heres my day 40 update. Holy crap i just rung a bud out like a sponge. HaHa
At day 40 i started my flush on Apollolicious and had to stake up the chemd. Peace LL

Heres Day 20


Heres 20 days later (day40)


THE PICS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
 

desertrat

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I chopped the main colas of the fimmed and fimmed plus pruned plants today. Sopping wet weight of 1.4 ounces for the fimmed and 1.7 ounces for the fimmed plus pruned. So far pruning is winning again.
 

Nitegazer

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I chopped the main colas of the fimmed and fimmed plus pruned plants today. Sopping wet weight of 1.4 ounces for the fimmed and 1.7 ounces for the fimmed plus pruned. So far pruning is winning again.

Ah, those are the numbers we were all waiting for-- pictures can be deceiving, after all. Case closed (for that strain, at least)?
 

Weedoozie

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I chopped the main colas of the fimmed and fimmed plus pruned plants today. Sopping wet weight of 1.4 ounces for the fimmed and 1.7 ounces for the fimmed plus pruned. So far pruning is winning again.
Nice, good to know
Thanks Desertrat!
 

desertrat

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Dry weight of pruned/fimmed top cola of the lowryder was 14 grams. Dry weight of the fimmed only cola was 10 grams.
 

DaveCoulier

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Dry weight of pruned/fimmed top cola of the lowryder was 14 grams. Dry weight of the fimmed only cola was 10 grams.
Desertrat, Im all for people experimenting to see if something works or not, but using plants from seed for this experiment can easily invalidate your findings, not to mention sample size as well. The results you got could give you enough 'evidence' to try it with clones, but until you try it with clones, you really haven't proven anything.

You could easily grow out 9 seeds from the same strain, and 1/3rd could have great branching, 1/3rd moderate branching, and 1/3rd poor branching, and Im sure you are smart enough to know this.

I will be looking forward to any results from a clone run though.
 

Uncle Ben

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I have been posting to cannabis forums for over 10 years and have never seen any forum "experiment" or journal that subscribes to standard empirical testing procedures.

People see what they expect or choose to see.

UB
 
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