Are they really terrorists or are they just plain mercenaries

thechoroid

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And I thought this debate was over:)
When there are penalties against women for BEING raped... including death... how many do you suppose go reported? Who the FUCK were you going to report a robbery to in Afghanistan? The local warlord?
Although I have no idea about afghanistan whatsoever besides that the US and the USSR continuously conflicting about it due to its resources but was continuously glad that neither could get anything out of that country for their benefits but still continued to send forces there just to show off their muscles to each other(US vs. USSR saga) but kept on losing soldiers to some cave dwellers in the moountains. I am sure that they resolve burglary matters in a more precise way than any warlord can.
Are you serious? The AUTHORITY in most Muslim countries rival the worst we have in our prisons. Making a statistical argument under these circumstances is sort of ludicrous.
You gotta be kidding me!!!!do make a generalized statement about all muslim countries. THere are many middle eastern countries that have adopted european laws and regulations and are always fucked up because of that.
Any idea how many people were killed under Saddam's rule? Do you? Don't talk to me about the dead Iraqi's. They died HORRIFIC deaths before we got there, at a higher rate. Our invasion brought about a net GAIN of life. You don't give a shit about the Iraqi people... because the sad fucking fact is that you are less likely to be killed in Iraq now than under Saddam. Your chances of being lowered into a pool of acid are now almost nil. The chance your daughter would end up in a rape room have almost disappeared. You only care about them when it suits you.
I also have no relation to Iraq but was appaled by the decieving arab position by letting Saddam conduct the horrific things he used to do to his people, but hey, hag on, doesn't he remind you of stallin, who governed Russia in the 50's and from whom the US government used to shit in their pants. Do you know how many innocent people he murdered or put away. So you were like, OMG, look at what's happening in Iraq!!!!AAAHHHHHH!!!! how can that be, we gotta save those IRAQI people!!we're the brave american soldiers thatare going to save them, but we need to think up of some rason to do so!nuclear warheads!!!!although whe some pakistan or north korea was experimenting on its neighbors with nukes I didn't see your government there, oh they don't have oil resources, oops! did I say resources! I meant saddam!


That is sort of the point with the whole mentality... their bodies... even their faces are considered shameful. Where do YOU draw the line? We have equal protection under the law. It took us a while to get there. It is a good thing.

Women are treated as subhuman in Muslim countries. Sharia is a joke.

I don't know where you get your understandings about the islamic laws but they are full of shit like your statement. I told you again, they cover their faces in order not to reveal themselves to other men besides their husband...
Want to know my personal favorites? The homegrown US black Muslim population. Whenever I see a walmart employee in her hijab... I just can't help but wonder where she found Islam. I mean... nothing says "my husband or father did time" like a hijab.

The existence of the so called homegrown US black Muslim population(I can't believe how racist you are) proves my point about the hijab and that it is the woman's right and not oppression to wear it.

I guess nation of Islam is the appropriate title... but I coined Prislam and rather like it.

I am hoping it catches on.

Can we talk about the Prislamic population Cho?
We can talk about anything bro, especially about the United States of Racist assholes that keep pushing their noses into other countrie's resources because they used up theirs, well boohooo...live with it! stop playing superman and trying to save the world. Nobody fuckin asked you to!!!!
By the way! I lived in Russia for the last 15 years and those guys can squash your forces like a bug,lol
 

SDSativa

Active Member
We can talk about anything bro, especially about the United States of Racist assholes that keep pushing their noses into other countrie's resources because they used up theirs, well boohooo...live with it! stop playing superman and trying to save the world. Nobody fuckin asked you to!!!!
By the way! I lived in Russia for the last 15 years and those guys can squash your forces like a bug,lol

Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it. Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out. You guys act like you support our troops. The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others. And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH. Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors. You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.
 
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Keenly

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We can talk about anything bro, especially about the United States of Racist assholes that keep pushing their noses into other countrie's resources because they used up theirs, well boohooo...live with it! stop playing superman and trying to save the world. Nobody fuckin asked you to!!!!
By the way! I lived in Russia for the last 15 years and those guys can squash your forces like a bug,lol

Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it. Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out. You guys act like you support our troops. The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others. And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH. Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors. You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.

LOL fail

because the middle east is taking away our freedoms


the way my eyes, and many other americans see it,

the Anglo-american empire, AKA the US Government, is the biggest threat to our freedom
 

SDSativa

Active Member
LOL fail

because the middle east is taking away our freedoms


the way my eyes, and many other americans see it,

the Anglo-american empire, AKA the US Government, is the biggest threat to our freedom

It's their mindset, and those who adopt them in this country. How can you possibly defend anything they stand for? They are not literally taking our freedom, but the fact that they would love nothing better than to see all "infidels" destroyed. If they had it their way, we would all be dead.
And I agree that out of control government are a threat to our freedoms, but, "the Anglo-american empire", it's the white persons fault right? What's up with that comment?
 

thechoroid

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Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it.

Duhhh!! that's where I first started smoking pot:))

Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out.

Dude! I'm not in America!never wanted to be and hopefully never have to.

QUOTE You guys act like you support our troops.

NOBODY in the whole fucking world supports your troops and each and every country thinks that your country is arrogant and boastful(check out europe for example, they are appaled from you).

QUOTE The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others.

Dude! If you barge into somebody else's country in order to steal their resources, it's not giving them freedom. And the so called governments made up from CIA agents, working for the benefit of that country are just there to make sure you're getting your share of what you laid your hands on.

QUOTE And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH.

Aww man!! you know nothing about the russians. they can survive on snow on vodka for like ages. YOU do not want to go face to face with them. Although they got a bit weaker after the fall of the soviets but i'm sure they're still able to gobble up your 200 000 easily with half the men and the equipment.
Quote .Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors.
Oh wow! they're not soldiers!hmm! as if that makes their families feel better that they lost a son to a war in a country they never even heard of.

Quote You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.

I don't support anyone, especially any country that allows itself to make up illusionary reasons to barge into other countries and steal them dry from their resources only because it spent it's tax payer money on weapons designed for the purposes of self defence but since nobody is attacking, the government cannot explain why they need so many guns (I LOVEZ MY GUN) so they go pick a fight in the name of freedom. BLABLABLABLA FUCKIN BLA MAN

GOD and my parents gave me my freedom. You didn't give me shit except a headache coming from having to explain to you that any war is bad.
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!!!
 

leeny

Active Member
We can talk about anything bro, especially about the United States of Racist assholes that keep pushing their noses into other countrie's resources because they used up theirs, well boohooo...live with it! stop playing superman and trying to save the world. Nobody fuckin asked you to!!!!
By the way! I lived in Russia for the last 15 years and those guys can squash your forces like a bug,lol

Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it. Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out. You guys act like you support our troops. The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others. And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH. Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors. You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.
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Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it.

Duhhh!! that's where I first started smoking pot:))

Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out.

Dude! I'm not in America!never wanted to be and hopefully never have to.

QUOTE You guys act like you support our troops.

NOBODY in the whole fucking world supports your troops and each and every country thinks that your country is arrogant and boastful(check out europe for example, they are appaled from you).

QUOTE The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others.

Dude! If you barge into somebody else's country in order to steal their resources, it's not giving them freedom. And the so called governments made up from CIA agents, working for the benefit of that country are just there to make sure you're getting your share of what you laid your hands on.

QUOTE And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH.

Aww man!! you know nothing about the russians. they can survive on snow on vodka for like ages. YOU do not want to go face to face with them. Although they got a bit weaker after the fall of the soviets but i'm sure they're still able to gobble up your 200 000 easily with half the men and the equipment.
Quote .Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors.
Oh wow! they're not soldiers!hmm! as if that makes their families feel better that they lost a son to a war in a country they never even heard of.

Quote You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.

I don't support anyone, especially any country that allows itself to make up illusionary reasons to barge into other countries and steal them dry from their resources only because it spent it's tax payer money on weapons designed for the purposes of self defence but since nobody is attacking, the government cannot explain why they need so many guns (I LOVEZ MY GUN) so they go pick a fight in the name of freedom. BLABLABLABLA FUCKIN BLA MAN

GOD and my parents gave me my freedom. You didn't give me shit except a headache coming from having to explain to you that any war is bad.
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!!!
this is an INTERNATIONAL forum... you are exactly why everyone hates America! they all think that is how the whole country is, and thanks to you and all the others that act like this, if I ever want to get out of America (oh please god let the plane ticket fall into my lap now) I will be treated like an arrogent asshole and be ousted for simply "being a boisterous pig that can only think about money, fast food, and looks" geeze. hell, even a lot of americans hate america for that image:wall:
 
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Keenly

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It's their mindset, and those who adopt them in this country. How can you possibly defend anything they stand for? They are not literally taking our freedom, but the fact that they would love nothing better than to see all "infidels" destroyed. If they had it their way, we would all be dead.
And I agree that out of control government are a threat to our freedoms, but, "the Anglo-american empire", it's the white persons fault right? What's up with that comment?
when did i say its the white persons fault?

im not the only one who refers to the EU, the U.S. and now all of the military bases on foreign soil the anglo-american empire

our leaders are puppets, and their marionettes are very power hungry...
 

cleatis

Well-Known Member
Are you serious? The AUTHORITY in most Muslim countries rival the worst we have in our prisons. Making a statistical argument under these circumstances is sort of ludicrous.

Any idea how many people were killed under Saddam's rule? Do you? Don't talk to me about the dead Iraqi's. They died HORRIFIC deaths before we got there, at a higher rate. Our invasion brought about a net GAIN of life. You don't give a shit about the Iraqi people... because the sad fucking fact is that you are less likely to be killed in Iraq now than under Saddam. Your chances of being lowered into a pool of acid are now almost nil. The chance your daughter would end up in a rape room have almost disappeared. You only care about them when it suits you.
And how did Saddam become the authority? The US gave him what he had. Saddam was a filthy bastard, but he was the filthy bastard that we chose for the people of Iraq. So not only did they get to deal with the a-hole leader that WE chose for them, they get to deal with us as well.

WE helped OBL become who he was/is, WE put the Shah of Iran into power. The middle east has a pretty legit case for not liking us, we keep putting our dick in their soup...
 
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Keenly

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And how did Saddam become the authority? The US gave him what he had. Saddam was a filthy bastard, but he was the filthy bastard that we chose for the people of Iraq. So not only did they get to deal with the a-hole leader that WE chose for them, they get to deal with us as well.

WE helped OBL become who he was/is, WE put the Shah of Iran into power. The middle east has a pretty legit case for not liking us, we keep putting our dick in their soup...
we replaced a democratically elected president with a tyrant
 

thechoroid

Active Member
this is an INTERNATIONAL forum... you are exactly why everyone hates America! they all think that is how the whole country is, and thanks to you and all the others that act like this, if I ever want to get out of America (oh please god let the plane ticket fall into my lap now) I will be treated like an arrogent asshole and be ousted for simply "being a boisterous pig that can only think about money, fast food, and looks" geeze. hell, even a lot of americans hate america for that image:wall:
At last some honesty. You're always welcome in my house bro!
 

SDSativa

Active Member
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Are you serious? Did you smoke pot in russia? I doubt it.

Duhhh!! that's where I first started smoking pot:))

Here I come siberia. If you feel that way about America, get the fuck out.

Dude! I'm not in America!never wanted to be and hopefully never have to.

QUOTE You guys act like you support our troops.

NOBODY in the whole fucking world supports your troops and each and every country thinks that your country is arrogant and boastful(check out europe for example, they are appaled from you).

QUOTE The truth is, everyone in the military knew there was a war going on when they joined, and they support what we are doing. You think the government just sent them there? We want to go because we know what we're doing is right. You must not like freedom. Without America this world would be a hell hole. We have given more aid and support to people all over the world, then all other countries combined. I'm sorry America wants people from other nations to have the same freedoms we enjoy. Freedom isn't free, you would not be able to say what you're saying without the sacrifice made from others.

Dude! If you barge into somebody else's country in order to steal their resources, it's not giving them freedom. And the so called governments made up from CIA agents, working for the benefit of that country are just there to make sure you're getting your share of what you laid your hands on.

QUOTE And I would love to see Russia try to take us on. I gaurantee the warriors in the Marine Corps, a little over 200, 000, would fuck Russia up. Communist pigs. OORAH.

Aww man!! you know nothing about the russians. they can survive on snow on vodka for like ages. YOU do not want to go face to face with them. Although they got a bit weaker after the fall of the soviets but i'm sure they're still able to gobble up your 200 000 easily with half the men and the equipment.
Quote .Do you notice when you hear about our SOLDIERS that die in Iraq and Afgahnistan, those ain't Marines, we're fucking warriors.
Oh wow! they're not soldiers!hmm! as if that makes their families feel better that they lost a son to a war in a country they never even heard of.

Quote You make me sick, supporting communist, anti-American scum. The next time you do anything, just remember that it is us who give you the freedom to say what you want. We believe in freedom, even if it means having sick Americans disrespecting America. We gave you that freedom.

I don't support anyone, especially any country that allows itself to make up illusionary reasons to barge into other countries and steal them dry from their resources only because it spent it's tax payer money on weapons designed for the purposes of self defence but since nobody is attacking, the government cannot explain why they need so many guns (I LOVEZ MY GUN) so they go pick a fight in the name of freedom. BLABLABLABLA FUCKIN BLA MAN

GOD and my parents gave me my freedom. You didn't give me shit except a headache coming from having to explain to you that any war is bad.
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!!!
Russia has had the harshest penalties on drug use and possession until very recently. If you got caught with a joint you were considered a "dealer" because of the low "average single dose".
Please don't come.
The people we are helping don't feel that way. It's the people who would like to continue their reign of terror and intimidation who don't support us. I don't give a damn what europe thinks. They are being overrun by these islamist extremists, who use intimidation to get their points across. Not to mention the socialist policies europe is trying to have us adopt, fuck the U.N.
If we wanted to invade a country for their resources, we would go into china. They are the worlds supplier of minerals and precious metals. Iraq and Afgahnistan are hellholes. They may have oil, not much else. If the libs here let us drill here we would be o.k. And we're putting billions of dollars into those countries to restore and train men, it's only fair we get something out of it.
Pussies in Russia, that's it. I don't care if they live in cold climate, does that make them stonger? America is full of varying weather, so I could argue we have training in warm and cold, humid and dry, which gives us an upperhand. The difference between Russia and America is that we we're proud of what we fight for. What has Russia done to help anybody? You don't understand the mentality of Marines, adapt and overcome, anything.
And what has Russia been doing to that whole region? They have been oppressing people for years. If you have a problem with America, remember east Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the whole "eastern expansion", so don't give me that crap. We don't invade countries and oppress the people, unlike Russia. It's no surprise so many nations have broken away and become independant. It is a countries defense system that keep them free and safe. We would not be a superpower, if it was not for our military. No nation in history has risen to such a position without strong military and defence; common knowledge. We need weapons to protect our people.
And we can agree on one thing, God. God is the center of my life, and I owe everything I have to him, but even he knows it is neccassary for a people to defend and protect that which is sacred. FREEDOM.He doesn't just give it to us, we have to earn it. Somebody, who you may not even know, at one time or another, fought for your freedom. There are times when war IS necassary, and people who think differently don't help anybody. Hitler? That wasn't a just war?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Russia has had the harshest penalties on drug use and possession until very recently. If you got caught with a joint you were considered a "dealer" because of the low "average single dose".
I just looked into this, Russia is now more advanced in this than us.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Under the package of amendments to the criminal code, distinctions will be made between large-scale drug traffickers and users and small-time dealers. As reported by the Moscow Times, possession of up to ten times the "average single dose" of a controlled substance is no longer considered a criminal offense but an "administrative infraction" punishable by a fine of between five and 10 times the daily minimum wage. Possession of between 10 and 50 times the "average single dose" is considered "possession of large amount" and is punishable by a larger fine and community service, but again no prison sentence. This second measure effectively decriminalizes small-time dealers -- unless they get caught in the act of selling.[/SIZE][/FONT]
I agree that the radicals that believe that the only way to get their point across is killing people and causing destruction, but we can't pick just them out.

We need to better protect ourselves, but these unwarranted wars are not helping to do that.


And you never want to start a land war in Russia!
 

thechoroid

Active Member
And you never want to start a land war in Russia![/QUOTE]
You bet yah! The Russians are rally crazy! they have no boundaries or ethics when it comes to fighting and even they couldn't do anything in afghanistan but captain hero here is going there to set things straight, lol:dunce:
 

thechoroid

Active Member
I also live by GOD's will and try to abide his laws, but Cane and Abel's story is the proof that even brothers can kill each other over some petty thing (by the way do you know why one of them killed the other besides jeaulosy of GOD's preferrence to one of them? they wanted to marry the same sister. See, EVE used to give birth to twins, a boy and a girl that could not get married of course, you figure the rest).
the people that are fighting in the countries that you invaded are also fighting for their freedom to keep their resources and habit of life to themselves.
 

SDSativa

Active Member
[QUOTE=thechoroid;3036512

I don't even know where to start. I know my heritage, and so did my founders. They were sick of being trampled in their home countries, so they founded the greatest nation on earth. I don't believe any other person could have as much pride for their country besed on moral grounds. I'm not saying we should go to war with Russia, but if it came down to it, we'de win. The've been brought up in tyranny, we have freedom in our blood. You probably wouldn't understand that though, because you care more about getting drunk or getting some pussy, than you do about protecting what matters to you. I did my time in the Marine Corps and it sickens me to see you have so much contemp for our troops. I don't believe anybody should have to see the horrors of war, but those who choose to do so deserve all of the respect and prayers from anyone who supports them. The only reason we're still over there is because the European Nations and their code of conduct. War is war. If we fought with the same mentality against Hitler, he would have kicked our ass. Let us do what we were trained to do. One way or another, every nation has fought for the soil they own. It's Gods possession, and he rewards it to those who defend it. I just don't understand how you kind of people think. God helps those who help themselves.
 

hanimmal

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Alright Thechorid, time to teach you how to actually quote.

An easy way to do it is to click and drag (like cut and paste) but leave it highlighted then click on the quote button on the top of this typing box
<-- there. That will put a quote around the highlighted text so that it looks like this:

I also live by GOD's will and try to abide his laws, but Cane and Abel's story is the proof that even brothers can kill each other over some petty thing (by the way do you know why one of them killed the other besides jeaulosy of GOD's preferrence to one of them? they wanted to marry the same sister. See, EVE used to give birth to twins, a boy and a girl that could not get married of course, you figure the rest).
the people that are fighting in the countries that you invaded are also fighting for their freedom to keep their resources and habit of life to themselves.
Or you can type [ QUOTE] and at the end of it type [ /QUOTE] (minus the space) so that it doesn't look like a wall of text!

Hope that helps.

If you go over to the Spirit and sexuality section you can see that I would disagree with the whole god thing. I think that just complicates everything, and muddies the waters making these wars into something that they cannot ever win.
 
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