Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

whats the cost to fill i think they charge 55 at the hydro store but you exchange your bottle so say good bye to new bottle once you buy it.. little gay.. and regulator are like 150 i think but never thought it would help that much.. so i never spent the money

Around me it costs $21 to fill at the local fire extingusher service place and I paid $110 for a real nice regulator.

Week 21 Update





We are now 21 weeks into this grow. All is going fairly well. Still trying to get the hang of these General Hydroponic nutrients. I diluted to quarter strength for the seedlings and clones and they were still getting burned. I diluted to about 1/8th strength and they seem to be doing better. All 3 seedlings now have roots hanging out of the net pots. The clones are all starting to root and the two in hydrotron have already rooted(I switch to hydrotron once roots make it out of the pot). Really waiting to get these Blue Kush plants into flower, because I love this herb and my buddy that gave them to me wants to see how they do in my hydro setup versus his soil-less mix.




The outdoor Piss Plant is doing great. Probly the best looking plant i have. It is about 5 feet tall now and is starting to show pistils. Really looking forward to this outdoor harvest. Cant wait to see the weight it puts on. It too is a good, fast flowering strain. It also has the biggest fan leaves I've ever seen. You can use the tomato cage as a refrence of its size.




The WW3 Mother in hydro is growing at a healthy and insane rate. It's leaves are getting huge. The color is also great but what I have come to expect from these dwc buckets. Cant wait to give this girl another shot. Wishing I had more flowering room. The Blue Kush and Piss clones are 2 weeks into sexing and still haven't shown positive signs of sex. The kush has already made it to the screen and the piss is only about 2 inches behind. Trying to figure out if I want to let them grow their full cycle or not. I will probly judge that on how big they get and how much of a pain it will be to work around then. If i had pulled the WW1 sexing clone I would have had 38.5 grams less of good chronic, so it makes me hesitant to pull these.




The WW1&2 clones are now 9 weeks into flowering. They are really starting to dense up nicely. I finally got a proper CO2 regulator order and the bottle filled again and am hoping it will be here Monday or Tuesday. Hoping this will dense them up even more. Trichome growth is fantastic. These buds look so white in person. The color doesn't seem to be coming back in the light's hot spot. But it doesn't seem like it is causing a problem. Im really excited thinking about my first real harvest coming up soon. My goal is to get 8 ounces out of these 5 plants. We'll have to see how close I get. I was originally hoping for more, but with the nutrient burn problems and lack of co2, I have adjusted my guess. Also, Unless WW2 is one of the best herbs I've smoked, it is loosing the phenotype war with its sisters. I already know that WW3 is fantastic all around(taste, weight, smell, potency) and so far WW1 in the Queen in the weight production and vigor. But I'll have a better idea in about a month.

Integra, awesome grow! Really great looking bud mate!! Well done

Thanks. Just wait till I get some of these other strains flowering. The white widow is great, but I cant wait to try something else.

I'll be looking out man. Good luck.

WW kicks my ass

WW has been kicking my ass as well.

Hi Intregal, what was the yield on your WW1

My sexing WW1 clone was harvested at least 3 weeks early due to a nutrient burn caused by contaminated water and it gave me 38.5 grams

Integra21 can you explain to me how your venting your hood and with what fan or fans you are using? your flowering room is exactly what i want for my new system im preparing to buy over the next couple weeks. pretty sure im about to copy your hydro system and set up.

x3v0lux said:

Integra21 can you explain to me how your venting your hood and with what fan or fans you are using? your flowering room is exactly what i want for my new system im preparing to buy over the next couple weeks. pretty sure im about to copy your hydro system and set up.

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Ok. I use a duct that i put in that draws air from my computer room on the other side of the wall. It goes from a standard rectangle duct to a round 6 inch into my light. That is picture here.

There is more 6 inch duct going out of the flower room that I then duct taped to a squrrel cage fan. I didnt use any adapter, just a lot of tape. The air then goes into a 5 inch duct and is routed back into the room, cooling it as well. You can see the exhaust duct behind the fan on the right in the second picture below. With my humidifier on full blast the room stays between 73-76F with humidity between 40%-55%. Any other questions, feel free to ask.

B-E-A-utiful

Thank you. I try.

I like the idea or one plant in a five gallon bucket, how do you cycle the water though, im a rookie and i wanna grow hydro so bad. what are the ball like things you plant with called? also great work on the thread you are a dedicated man!

miracle grow soil is ok for growing? i know it probably sounds stupid but will it work, low on funds and need a few pointers that are cheap and helpful.

Integra21 that looks great but ill be in a apartment with 2 or 3 plants under the 400w in a 26'x46' tent i think. If you could answer some questions about venting i would much appreciate it. what cfm fan do i need? and what type of fan do i need? i figure i could hook ducting up to one end of the light hood and have it connected to the fan to suck the air out of the tent through the light. Im not sure where to put a carbon filter though because i need odor control. Im sorry if i made no sense but im pretty foggy about ventilation right now and its the only thing holding me back from buying all the parts and getting it going. its not my first grow but my first grow with a actual budget.

i figure the set up for a vent system would go 400w in cool tube ----- carbon filter------ squirrel cage fan to outside of tent.

----- = ducting

Fish Brain said:

I like the idea or one plant in a five gallon bucket, how do you cycle the water though, im a rookie and i wanna grow hydro so bad. what are the ball like things you plant with called? also great work on the thread you are a dedicated man!

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You can make a recirculating DWC bucket and thats what they are called. But I dont do it that way. My Buckets are simply a bucket with a hole cut for a 3.5 inch net pot, the net pot filled with Hydrotron(little balls), and a 5 in air disc for an air stone. Have them all hooke up to general hydroponic dual diaphram air pumps. Those pumps are kind of pricy, and cheaper ones will work fine, but you cant hook 8 buckets up to 1 pump with the cheap ones like you can with the GH one. As far as nutrients go, I fill the bucket to just below the net pot(about an inch) with 50% strength GH Flora series nutrients. As the plants absorb water and nutrients, i just top off with water, and about every 2 weeks, I change the bucket out with fresh nutrients and continue that cycly. It is much simpler than recirculating systems. Also, if you get something wrong with nutrients, it will only effect that plant instead of all of them like recirculating would. You can build a 4 bucket setup with all of my parts(expensive ones) for under $100 and if you do it with cheaper stuff(stones and pumps) you can get closer to $75, but its not worth saving the $25 in my opinion. Hope this helps, any more questions, ask.

xXkillerklownXx said:

miracle grow soil is ok for growing? i know it probably sounds stupid but will it work, low on funds and need a few pointers that are cheap and helpful.

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I would recommend black gold soil or soilless mix over miracle grow any day, and it's only a couple of bucks more. You will have much better results. A decent sized bag of their coco mix(soil less) runs about $10 and is enough for 2-3 full sized plants. Mixing in perlite in a 10%-20% ratio also greatly helps drainage and airration and a big bags is usually around $5 and helps you stretch your soil a little farther. Any other questions, dont hesitate to ask.

why not use miracle grow? i've seen a bunch of people talk and say that it works, so whats really wrong with it?