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UncleBuck
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you're right, we should have privatized SS in 2004 when GWB was pushing for it. that would have worked out well...
ganja girl
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Thank Pres. Johnson (D) for allowing SS to be part of the general budget. Bastard-Johnson, not you. I don't think GWB had the right answer either.
*Kb*
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Never succumb to the temptation of bitterness.
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Hmm how you come up with Bush having the right idea is beyond me, Bush was a Moron to think you could privatize something that doesn't even really exist. To each there own though, I could do a better job with my retirement money than any government lackey ever could. Anyone could.
I think what we should have done was just stop the program all together. Those who have paid into the system will get what is due to them on a pro rated basis, but any newborn people in this country get jack squat. Its going to happen sooner or later anyway. Its not like they put all that money they have been taking out of your paycheck all these years into a special account or anything, the SS account is full of nothing but IOU's. There is no money. BTW SS was never designed nor intended to take care of a retired person's every need.
hom36rown
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Umm, very few I'm sure.i wonder how many people used some of their SS check to buy an Amtrak ticket or drive on public roads to DC, before getting on the Metro to go to the public funded mall and protest socialism.
medicineman
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The real deal is the average breadwinner doesn't make enough to save for retirement, that pittance the government takes for SS would not be life changing for any family. Say the stock market takes a major shit, (You say that can't happen?) Really? What should really happen to secure SS Is the 5,000 lb. elephant in the room that no-one will talk about. Lift the cap on deductions. Why should those above 100K be allowed to stop paying? It's rediculous. By removing the cap, SS would be solvent way into the future, way past mankinds ability to not destroy itself. I guess now we'll find out whom on this site makes over 100K.
I made $38,630 last year, My Taxes Came out to just under 7K. SS taxes was exactly half that amount at $3,500. Medicare was $700 And Federal Income tax was $2150, state tax was the rest at $620. For me SS was the largest of the bunch. I put $250 a month into my 401k, the minimum to get the company full match. of the $28,600 left over child support took $11,200 and Medical was $2,100 leaving me with $15,300. So there ya go, I had $15,300 last year to pay for everything I need.
ganja girl
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jeff f
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why is everyone talking about old people and social security? incase you havent realized social security pays for a lot more than old people. if we paid for old people only, the system would be fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)
here is a little reference. notice the first line "old age" and "disability". its the disability, like my next door neighbor who has "social anxiety disorder". yea right, and i am the cat in the hat.
education is a wonderful thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)
here is a little reference. notice the first line "old age" and "disability". its the disability, like my next door neighbor who has "social anxiety disorder". yea right, and i am the cat in the hat.
education is a wonderful thing.
jeff f
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more random thoughts....
you have professional leech makers that "recommend" help for the "struggling" people. when my mom (65 yrs old) worked part time she went to the ss office to see if she could get some help. they told her if she quit her job she would be eligible for more expansive benefits. does anybody have a problem with this? i do, my mom did. you?
why does the social securty pay for little girls who get pregnant?....over and over? more money for each baby they have? one baby? okay help her. 2, 3, 4 babies? uhhhhh, anyone?
when i was in the military, i worked with MEN/WOMEN who had half their bodies blown off in wars. they WORKED.....they were PRODUCTIVE. they werent leeches even though they had every right to be.
there is a guy in town who gets SS because he is an alcoholic. no bullshit. anyone see anything counter productive about this? does anyone on here have trouble having your money confiscated by armed thugs and handed over to this guy to buy his busch lite?
i did a job in a small apartment building. there were 5 people living in the apartment. all got some kind of benefit. all were healthy. all enjoyed activities like hunting and fishing, riding dirt bikes. the eldest daughter had a small baby and one on the way. one morning she was standing behind the building waiting for a taxi. i asked where she was headed. "college". (a local, public funded comm coll) i said, "wow, i really admire you trying to get an education and being willing to spend the money for a cab to get there". she says, "oh, i dont pay for it the college does". (ie social security). in case you dont know, your taxes are paying to maintain buildings, teachers saleries, tuition, books, meals, AND A RIDE TO GET THERE VIA TAXI!! guess what tax pays that?
you have professional leech makers that "recommend" help for the "struggling" people. when my mom (65 yrs old) worked part time she went to the ss office to see if she could get some help. they told her if she quit her job she would be eligible for more expansive benefits. does anybody have a problem with this? i do, my mom did. you?
why does the social securty pay for little girls who get pregnant?....over and over? more money for each baby they have? one baby? okay help her. 2, 3, 4 babies? uhhhhh, anyone?
when i was in the military, i worked with MEN/WOMEN who had half their bodies blown off in wars. they WORKED.....they were PRODUCTIVE. they werent leeches even though they had every right to be.
there is a guy in town who gets SS because he is an alcoholic. no bullshit. anyone see anything counter productive about this? does anyone on here have trouble having your money confiscated by armed thugs and handed over to this guy to buy his busch lite?
i did a job in a small apartment building. there were 5 people living in the apartment. all got some kind of benefit. all were healthy. all enjoyed activities like hunting and fishing, riding dirt bikes. the eldest daughter had a small baby and one on the way. one morning she was standing behind the building waiting for a taxi. i asked where she was headed. "college". (a local, public funded comm coll) i said, "wow, i really admire you trying to get an education and being willing to spend the money for a cab to get there". she says, "oh, i dont pay for it the college does". (ie social security). in case you dont know, your taxes are paying to maintain buildings, teachers saleries, tuition, books, meals, AND A RIDE TO GET THERE VIA TAXI!! guess what tax pays that?
ganja girl
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I know someone whose ex-wife can't read and has 5 children who can't read and don't go to school. The oldest daughter has 3 kids, she is 18. All 5 kids and the mom get SSD because being illiterate is a disability! And the 3 grandkids get ADC. Between them all they receive over $7,000/month, plus section 8 housing.
now I have to step in.
do not, i repeat, do NOT STATE AS IF IT WERE TRUE that ALL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS are paid for by Social Security. that is a lie.
social security is given to people who have a disability, those who cannot return to work because a DOCTOR recommended it. - you can accuse social security all you want, but the problem is the DOCTOR who says somebody is disabled when he/she is not.
community colleges are paid for by for in part with tax dollars, and part with tuition money from students. if the student happens to fall within a particular group that gets help to pay for school, it's not the LEECH student, it's the university wanting the population to be more educated.
regardless of what you think, because i think you have a 'dumb complex': EDUCATION IS NOT A BAD THING, NEVER EVER. IF YOU LEARN A SINGLE NEW THING FROM AN EXPERIENCE IT WAS WORTH IT.
but no, you seem to think it's just a progressive conspiracy to make everybody lazy.
social security pays little girls who get pregnant because little girls probably don't have shit to stand on, and since you're lovely george W bush put NCLB into action, kids aren't being taught about safe sex, contraceptives, etc. so MORE girls are getting pregnant.
you want to stop little girls from getting pregnant, you don't stop caring for the ones who got pregnant, you teach the ones who aren't pregnant how to avoid it.
SOCIAL SECURITY IS A FUND DESIGNED TO CARE FOR THE DISABLED AND THE ELDERLY, AND THE MONEY GOES TO THOSE ENDS.
and you're mom is a fraud
, for being able to keep working and still going to the SS office. that is the same fraud that depletes the system dipshit!!!and to NO DRAMA, if you earned the amount you say you earned: 38630, then social security was 2395, NOT 3,500.
I know this because the SS tax rate in 2010 is 6.2% for incomes under ~100k. Source: AccountingCoach.com.
Medicare is an additional 1.45%.
38630 * 0.0145 = 560.14
So in total you paid 560.13 + 2395 = 2955, In social security + medicare.
Federal and State unemployment are two other taxes I should take into account...... but i don't need to.
we're talking SS and medicare and what not.... if you gave me your state i could do your taxes right now and for an income of 38k you don't pay 20% income tax, like you're implying
and if you did, you need to get somebody else to do your taxes, cuz you're being screwed.....
I know this because the SS tax rate in 2010 is 6.2% for incomes under ~100k. Source: AccountingCoach.com.
Medicare is an additional 1.45%.
38630 * 0.0145 = 560.14
So in total you paid 560.13 + 2395 = 2955, In social security + medicare.
Federal and State unemployment are two other taxes I should take into account...... but i don't need to.
we're talking SS and medicare and what not.... if you gave me your state i could do your taxes right now and for an income of 38k you don't pay 20% income tax, like you're implying
and if you did, you need to get somebody else to do your taxes, cuz you're being screwed.....
jeff f
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you sure did step in it.now I have to step in.
do not, i repeat, do NOT STATE AS IF IT WERE TRUE that ALL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS are paid for by Social Security. that is a lie.
social security is given to people who have a disability, those who cannot return to work because a DOCTOR recommended it. - you can accuse social security all you want, but the problem is the DOCTOR who says somebody is disabled when he/she is not.
community colleges are paid for by for in part with tax dollars, and part with tuition money from students. if the student happens to fall within a particular group that gets help to pay for school, it's not the LEECH student, it's the university wanting the population to be more educated.
regardless of what you think, because i think you have a 'dumb complex': EDUCATION IS NOT A BAD THING, NEVER EVER. IF YOU LEARN A SINGLE NEW THING FROM AN EXPERIENCE IT WAS WORTH IT.
but no, you seem to think it's just a progressive conspiracy to make everybody lazy.
social security pays little girls who get pregnant because little girls probably don't have shit to stand on, and since you're lovely george W bush put NCLB into action, kids aren't being taught about safe sex, contraceptives, etc. so MORE girls are getting pregnant.
you want to stop little girls from getting pregnant, you don't stop caring for the ones who got pregnant, you teach the ones who aren't pregnant how to avoid it.
SOCIAL SECURITY IS A FUND DESIGNED TO CARE FOR THE DISABLED AND THE ELDERLY, AND THE MONEY GOES TO THOSE ENDS.
and you're mom is a fraud
so when your whore daughter has 5 illitgitamate kids i should pay? fuck your daughter.
your fat lazy son has ADD and i have to pay for it? fuck your fat lazy sone.
so your lying uncle sets his whole fmily up with 4k a month for "disabilities" i should pay? fuck your lying uncle.
and apparently you didnt read the source. here it is again. ss pays for a lot more than old and disabled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)
so stop lying to the people and saying cutting social security is going to starve your poor grandmother. that is a plane ass lie. we arent stupid and we can read for ourselves. we dont need the high and mighty left to tell us what to believe. we can figure that out on our own.
jeff f
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and my moms a fraud? my mom worked and paid into social security her whole life. so did my father who has since past away.....tens of thousands, possible hundreds of thousands.
your fat whore daughter, lazy son, lying uncle never did shit and never had a fucking job.
my mom simply wanted to find out if she could get extra help while still providing legitimate income for her to survive.
and for the professional leech helpers (ss admin) to tell her to quit and we can help you? thats just fucking wrong and even if YOU cant see that, the thinking people of this country know it.
your fat whore daughter, lazy son, lying uncle never did shit and never had a fucking job.
my mom simply wanted to find out if she could get extra help while still providing legitimate income for her to survive.
and for the professional leech helpers (ss admin) to tell her to quit and we can help you? thats just fucking wrong and even if YOU cant see that, the thinking people of this country know it.
jeff f
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more uneducated dribble
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
try page 7
http://onlineultrasoundschool.com/2010/teen-pregnancy-in-america/
check the graph.
but more importantly, check your facts.
i don't have kids mang. i don't have STD's either, even though i've had sex with people with STD's (unknowingly too!).
i was raised in a progressive environment. my parents taught me about condoms and the morning after pill before i got pubes, so I ain't having kids til i can afford it.
hey, I can go to a doctor and say i'm disabled all I want, it's up to him to diagnose me. I'll say again: the DOCTOR has to render me disabled.
SO, HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: I'M LAZY, I WANT TO STOP WORKING. I GO TO THE DOCTOR, HE TELLS ME HE'LL PUT ME ON DISABILITY BUT I HAVE TO COME IN TWICE A MONTH.
IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR DOCTOR/PATIENT. THE PATIENT GETS TO STOP WORKING, THE DOCTOR GETS AN EXTRA 2 VISITS A MONTH. IT'S FUCKED UP.
but you seem to think that the system is just a huge tit everybody sucks on.... that's just not how it is.....
i was raised in a progressive environment. my parents taught me about condoms and the morning after pill before i got pubes, so I ain't having kids til i can afford it.
hey, I can go to a doctor and say i'm disabled all I want, it's up to him to diagnose me. I'll say again: the DOCTOR has to render me disabled.
SO, HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: I'M LAZY, I WANT TO STOP WORKING. I GO TO THE DOCTOR, HE TELLS ME HE'LL PUT ME ON DISABILITY BUT I HAVE TO COME IN TWICE A MONTH.
IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR DOCTOR/PATIENT. THE PATIENT GETS TO STOP WORKING, THE DOCTOR GETS AN EXTRA 2 VISITS A MONTH. IT'S FUCKED UP.
but you seem to think that the system is just a huge tit everybody sucks on.... that's just not how it is.....