Beignets for breakfast..?

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
Ph03nix,

Thanks for sharing the pics, but you certainly don't need to convince us. Seriously...we do intend on visiting Australia just as soon as we can. We've done Bali, The Cook Islands, Puerto Rico, Belize, Guam so it's time we consider Australia, yes?
Yes! And shame on you. You should have done us first. ;-) You wouldn't have bothered with the rest if you did, you would have just kept coming back here... or wanted to stay...

One of the "wayward" boys that I cared for years ago hailed from there. His grandmother lives down Melbourne way right on the beach where all the penguins congregate. She had some awesome pics from that region as well.
In WA you can be travel through the desert and just pop out the other side onto the most pristine white (and I mean white... glowing white) beaches. Don't forget your sunnies if you want to head over there. :eyesmoke: Tassie has cold, windswept rocky little beaches, but apparently is the place to go diving to check out seahorses, abalone, lobster, all of that cold water stuff... SA's beaches are apparently very pretty, but windy and cold (at least for a tropicana like me)... and Vic (cold) and NSW (warmer) have really nice beaches as well. Honestly Dave, ALL of the beaches in Aus are awesome... They're all different though, they just vary in their wow factor.. The sand gets finer and whiter the further you go north, the trees get more tropical, the water gets warmer... You do have to watch out for jellyfish if you're swimming in the warmer months. Some of those little bastards will kill you within 15 minutes. And of course, up here we've got the reef. If we keep fucking up the earth though, there have been scientific studies done that say that we could lose it completely within 10 years. There are areas that are already dying off. So you should come over as soon as you can, otherwise you might miss it. There are heaps of dive companies up that way, and I've been told that most tourists believe they're reasonably priced. You should probably go out with someone who's experienced, at least at first, so that you can learn a bit about the local conditions, etc.

Where we want to go, you can simply snorkel the reef if that's your preference. That's what I'll have to stick to... I doubt I could dive. But it is so close that I'll still be able to touch it if I wanted to... I'll still be surrounded by fish... it just won't be so hard on my lungs. Now, Cedar Bay is north of Cairns, and actually a National Park, so you're not supposed to camp there, but if we get caught you guys can do the talking and play the dumb tourists. :lol: They're pretty lenient on the whole for two reasons... 1, because there's a hippy community living in the area and they don't give up and move away too easily. Some of 'the ferals' have been there for decades. And 2, the rainforest in there is too thick for them to really want to be too vigilant. It would take them months to search the whole area properly. It used to be a fair walk from the nearest road to the beach, but we're not too sure about how much has changed up there these days. We are planning a trip up there very soon though... hopefully just after christmas... we'll keep you updated.

If I was you, armed as you are with two amazingly talented and good looking tour guides such as ourselves, I'd hire a camper and drive around the country. We'll join you in ours and show you some places that don't appear in the tourists' brochures... and some that do, if you have any particular preferrences. But be warned... you won't want to go home. At the very least, you'll be making plans to come back for your next holidays. No matter where we go, you won't see even an 'nth' of the wonders we have to behold. We haven't even seen all of the amazing stuff that we're lucky enough to have here. I do promise you'll love it.

Now as for the grub...Pork is awesome. I just made a superb Chili Verde. And the coffee? I've got some of the best Columbian Peaberry coffee that you'll taste. When I brew it in our vacuum pot, it's simply perfection. :)
I'm going to make you eat meat pies and vegemite sandwiches. :fire:
That's about the extent of our 'national food'. I won't tell you what kind of meat is used for the pie filling... nor that vegemite is the stuff that's left on the bottom of the barrel after making beer... ;-) You'll love it, mate!

As for the coffee... don't make it too good... Gryph might decide he wants to go home with you. :?

Seamaiden said:
This is my geek; as I'm scrolling through the pictures, I'm naming the fish. Oh, there are some anthias, a tomato clown, better watch your wrasse! (It is not pronounced "ross-ee", like a he-she did on one of our tattoo shows, that was some funny shit right right there, I spent the whole show trying to figure out what this "ross-ee" fish was he-she was talking about, and finally they show the tattoo, and I busted up laughing, that's a WRASSE! :lol:)

Jesus, do I go off on tangents, or what?
:lol: Tripper!

You should do some googling of your own. I just picked a few photos that were taken in roughly the same area. You'll find heaps more if you look for tropical north queensland, around the Cairns/Cooktown area. We did check it out on GoogleEarth again last night, and they've uploaded new pics. You can see the coastline really well now... you can even see how close the reef and rainforest really are in places. You should have a look around the mouth of the Daintree River, see what you think... :hump:

Apart from that, there's not a whole lot of stuff on the net about this place, it's pretty wild. We'll change that, you can be sure. There will be photos everywhere soon... and if I'm going snorkelling, I'm going to buy a decent underwater camera, you can count on that! You can help me out with the names of the fish I photograph... In return I'll tell you all about the birds and animals... deal? bongsmilie
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Oh, believe you me, ph03nix, Aussie fish are highly coveted here in the U.S. We want to know plenty about them but can't usually get a hold of them. At one time here in the states we were able to get many similar species from the South Pacific and Oceania (Indo/PI). Now many of those places are fished out (cyanide, mostly to fill the HK live fish trade demands, but also for marine ornamentals) and the only specimens reside in your waters. Makes for some interesting conflicts when others fish within your borders. So, yeah, you tell me everything and you'll have a happily captive audience (especially if we're passing the pipe back & forth) <cough!cough!cough!coughcoughgasp..>

Then there are all the endemics, to be seen nowhere else, especially the temperate fishes. I used to work at the Long Beach Aquarium of the Pacific, where there is employed as a senior aquarist, the first woman to breed and rear to adulthood the fry of any leafy/weedy seadragons. Her success was the weedy seadragon. And boy..! Was she precious about her fish! I think I would be, too.

I'll tell you something else.. between 'us' (and anyone bothering to read this far), if it were mine I'd want to keep it all a secret. I was telling Dave, for instance, about the ancient species of cycads that are in Australia, in an ancient piece of rainforest. That's something I could get into (depending on the mosquito factor, they like me as I'm rich and don't need additional seasoning, I'm quite salty enough, thank you), birdwatching.. have I mentioned the birdwatching? I used to do it all the time when hiking was easier.

I want to see him try the Vegemite. :)
 

VTXDave

Well-Known Member
Yes! And shame on you. You should have done us first. ;-) You wouldn't have bothered with the rest if you did, you would have just kept coming back here... or wanted to stay...
To be honest Ph03nix, I had planned a trip to Australia years ago but settled on the Cooks. Reason being, the Barrier Reef required a lengthy boat trip from shore from many locations and I didn't want to spend half the trip simply riding in a boat. The Cooks offered quick trips to the reef (10 minutes tops) and was a very nice "non touristy" place. We don't dig tourist destinations.



The sand gets finer and whiter the further you go north, the trees get more tropical, the water gets warmer... You do have to watch out for jellyfish if you're swimming in the warmer months. Some of those little bastards will kill you within 15 minutes.
I believe box jellyfish season is around February, yes?

And of course, up here we've got the reef. If we keep fucking up the earth though, there have been scientific studies done that say that we could lose it completely within 10 years. There are areas that are already dying off.
<sigh> Yes...Unfortunately Seamaiden and I are well aware of the bleaching events as we are saltwater enthusiasts.

We are planning a trip up there very soon though... hopefully just after christmas... we'll keep you updated.
Please do.

I'd hire a camper and drive around the country.
Interestingly enough, that's exactly what I had initially planned. Rent a Camper/Van and drive up the Queensland coast.

We'll join you in ours and show you some places that don't appear in the tourists' brochures... and some that do, if you have any particular preferrences.
We're definitely not "touristy" people and like taking in the culture and avoiding tourist destinations. When we were in Bali, we befriended some locals who took us to their temple (awesome) and invited us to their home for a traditional Balinese meal and meet the family. What a wonderful experience that most tourists never experience.

I'm going to make you eat meat pies and vegemite sandwiches.
In the Cooks, James (our Australian boy) had us eat meat pies..YUMM. The Cooks is popular w/ Aussies and especially Kiwis. Now the Vegemite...umm...hmm <Dave thinks to self: How should I put this delicately?>...ummm...no thanks. :D
James and I once made a bet...You see, he hated Peanut Butter and loved Vegemite. We bet that he eat a Tablespoon of Peanut Butter and I eat a Tablespoon of Vegemite. That is the only food I've ever tasted that immediately triggered a gag reflex...:lol:

As for the coffee... don't make it too good... Gryph might decide he wants to go home with you. :?
Heh..OK But tell Gryph that he'll love my coffee...I make a mean "Cup o' Joe"

Now tell me, when we plan this, my son might want to come along with his family and meet us there. He's in the military in Guam currently. Would that be an inconvenience? He's been wanting to see Australia ever since my first proposal to vacation there.
 

Gryphonn

Well-Known Member
To be honest Ph03nix, I had planned a trip to Australia years ago but settled on the Cooks. Reason being, the Barrier Reef required a lengthy boat trip from shore from many locations and I didn't want to spend half the trip simply riding in a boat. The Cooks offered quick trips to the reef (10 minutes tops) and was a very nice "non touristy" place. We don't dig tourist destinations.
I'll protect you. We hate crowds and tourist places. It's a shame Cairns is now a tourist mecca. it was once a nice place, as was Pt Douglas. I have no doubts that Cooktown is heading that path because there is bitumen all the way there now from the south.

I believe box jellyfish season is around February, yes?
Once the waters go above 23C I think. Depends on where you are.

<sigh> Yes...Unfortunately Seamaiden and I are well aware of the bleaching events as we are saltwater enthusiasts.

Please do.
I read recently (COSMOS Issue 24 pp 76-83) that the acid content of the water may be a far more serious and immediate problem. The scientists predict that by 1050/60, due to the amount of CO2 absorption by the ocean, acidity levels in the Barrier reef area will be so high that calcium carbonate (the stuff that makes the coral skeleton) will become unstable and begin to dissolve.

For millions of years, oceans averaged a PH of 8.22 (slightly alkaline). Current tests show that that level has dropped to 8.05 and is dropping further as CO2 levels in the air increase. By the end of the century, PH levels are expected to drop another .4 points. IF levels reach 7.4 coral skeletons will dissolve as shown in an experiment in March 2007. However, it appears that the polyps may well be able to adapt and become soft bodied. Interesting read:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/315/5820/1811
(You may need to subscribe)

Thirty coral fragments from five coral colonies of the scleractinian Mediterranean species Oculina patagonica (encrusting) and Madracis pharencis (bulbous) were subjected to pH values of 7.3 to 7.6 and 8.0 to 8.3 (ambient) for 12 months. The corals were maintained in an indoor flow-through system under ambient Mediterranean seawater temperatures (17° to 30°C) and photoperiod (intensity of 250
mol photons m–2 s–1). After 1 month in acidic conditions, morphological changes were seen, initially polyp elongation, followed by dissociation of the colony form and complete skeleton dissolution. Surprisingly, the polyps remained attached to the undissolved hard rocky substrate .
Interestingly enough, that's exactly what I had initially planned. Rent a Camper/Van and drive up the Queensland coast.
We should hopefully be living in one fulltime soon. The gypsy blood has overpowered me...thank the gods.

We're definitely not "touristy" people and like taking in the culture and avoiding tourist destinations. When we were in Bali, we befriended some locals who took us to their temple (awesome) and invited us to their home for a traditional Balinese meal and meet the family. What a wonderful experience that most tourists never experience.
That's my idea of going somewhere Dave. Meeting people away from the 'hotspots'.

In the Cooks, James (our Australian boy) had us eat meat pies..YUMM. The Cooks is popular w/ Aussies and especially Kiwis. Now the Vegemite...umm...hmm <Dave thinks to self: How should I put this delicately?>...ummm...no thanks. :D
James and I once made a bet...You see, he hated Peanut Butter and loved Vegemite. We bet that he eat a Tablespoon of Peanut Butter and I eat a Tablespoon of Vegemite. That is the only food I've ever tasted that immediately triggered a gag reflex...:lol:
Hahaha!! It's weird for us, because most Australian born kids are raised on the stuff from childhood. I use it in stews, soups, on toast, with cheese and tomato...
...it is true though, that the original recipe was derived (well the ingredients came from) the yeast trash in the bottom of beer brewing tanks. The bloke who 'invented' it figured all that Vitamin B was going to waste. However, once the recipe was refined, he used pure brewers yeast with a mixture of spices and vegetables to come up with the beautiful black tar we consume today.

Heh..OK But tell Gryph that he'll love my coffee...I make a mean "Cup o' Joe"

Now tell me, when we plan this, my son might want to come along with his family and meet us there. He's in the military in Guam currently. Would that be an inconvenience? He's been wanting to see Australia ever since my first proposal to vacation there.
I am a sucker for a really good coffee Dave.

No inconvenience at all. Problem is, we won't have a 'house' or home base to speak of except way down in southern QLD in the bush. The camper/4WD whatever we have will be our home. If they can get here, we'll happily show 'em around and give 'em advice and stuff.
 

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
Oh, believe you me, ph03nix, Aussie fish are highly coveted here in the U.S. We want to know plenty about them but can't usually get a hold of them. At one time here in the states we were able to get many similar species from the South Pacific and Oceania (Indo/PI). Now many of those places are fished out (cyanide, mostly to fill the HK live fish trade demands, but also for marine ornamentals) and the only specimens reside in your waters. Makes for some interesting conflicts when others fish within your borders. So, yeah, you tell me everything and you'll have a happily captive audience(especially if we're passing the pipe back & forth) <cough!cough!cough!coughcoughgasp..>
Well, that goes without saying... :shock:

Then there are all the endemics, to be seen nowhere else, especially the temperate fishes. I used to work at the Long Beach Aquarium of the Pacific, where there is employed as a senior aquarist, the first woman to breed and rear to adulthood the fry of any leafy/weedy seadragons. Her success was the weedy seadragon. And boy..! Was she precious about her fish! I think I would be, too.
The Bass Strait is the place to go if you're interested in leafy seadragons and such. I think if I remember corectly, there's a diving company near Melbourne that does a kelp field dive. Your collegue was right to be precious about her fish. Australia has very strong protection laws for most of our native species. I imagine it would be very hard to find anything like that overseas. That's the best thing about a camera, I think... you can take them home with you on film instead.

I'll tell you something else.. between 'us' (and anyone bothering to read this far), if it were mine I'd want to keep it all a secret. I was telling Dave, for instance, about the ancient species of cycads that are in Australia, in an ancient piece of rainforest.
Cycads? We have shitloads of different cycads. If you're thinking about 'Blackboys', I could take you to a place that would blow you away. Imagine a whole mountain of the little buggers. I suspect, however that you may be talking about the Wollemi Pine... a prehistoric tree. A small grove of them was discovered on a mesa mountain top in about 94-95, I think. The exact location of that grove was kept a secret, *whispers* but just quietly... I know where that is... :hump: ...although to get there would take a fair bit of hiking and a lot of climbing up an almost sheer wall. These days the genus is going strong, thanks to a bunch of boffins who went in there and collected the original samples. Millions of little offspring are now on sale in any good nursery around the country... maybe overseas, I'm not sure.

That's something I could get into (depending on the mosquito factor, they like me as I'm rich and don't need additional seasoning, I'm quite salty enough, thank you), birdwatching.. have I mentioned the birdwatching? I used to do it all the time when hiking was easier.
I love birdwatching too. I'm not a geek... don't know all the scientific names and such, but I love just watching them as I'm walking through the bush. Another of my favourite photography subjects. As for the mozzies... well darling, there's not going to be too many places that don't have them, especially near the coast. But sandflies, those are the little pricks to watch out for. I hate them. We'll get lots and lots of mozzie spray for you... maybe even teach you a bush trick or two. They hate the smell of burning cow shit, for example. You burn that near you and they'll stay away. There are leaves that you can crush up to use as a repellent too.

I want to see him try the Vegemite. :)
:weed:


To be honest Ph03nix, I had planned a trip to Australia years ago but settled on the Cooks. Reason being, the Barrier Reef required a lengthy boat trip from shore from many locations and I didn't want to spend half the trip simply riding in a boat. The Cooks offered quick trips to the reef (10 minutes tops) and was a very nice "non touristy" place. We don't dig tourist destinations.
A lot of the places here do have a fairly lengthy boat trip to the dive spot, especially if you go out of one of the touristy places like Cairns or Townsville. That's the beauty of the little spots that no-one goes to. The reef is literally just off shore and shallow enough to snorkel. It can get pretty rough out there though, so I don't know if I'd want to dive without others around. But then, I don't know how good you guys are...

Interestingly enough, that's exactly what I had initially planned. Rent a Camper/Van and drive up the Queensland coast.

We're definitely not "touristy" people and like taking in the culture and avoiding tourist destinations. When we were in Bali, we befriended some locals who took us to their temple (awesome) and invited us to their home for a traditional Balinese meal and meet the family. What a wonderful experience that most tourists never experience.
Well, we should be able to show you something to your liking...

I believe box jellyfish season is around February, yes?
The further north, the warmer the water and the longer they hang around. They can be present all summer, sometimes even longer. They're not something you want to fuck around with. I believe a full wetsuit will provide protection, but I could be wrong...
Summer is also our cyclone season. The weather is fairly unpredictable and storms can build up really quickly. We usually get a lot of rain, especially up north. It might not be the best time to plan a camping trip in the North Queensland tropics... just a thought.

<sigh> Yes...Unfortunately Seamaiden and I are well aware of the bleaching events as we are saltwater enthusiasts.
Sad, isn't it? :cry:

Please do.
We will.

In the Cooks, James (our Australian boy) had us eat meat pies..YUMM. The Cooks is popular w/ Aussies and especially Kiwis. Now the Vegemite...umm...hmm <Dave thinks to self: How should I put this delicately?>...ummm...no thanks. :D
James and I once made a bet...You see, he hated Peanut Butter and loved Vegemite. We bet that he eat a Tablespoon of Peanut Butter and I eat a Tablespoon of Vegemite. That is the only food I've ever tasted that immediately triggered a gag reflex...:lol:
Oh, give me the vegemite anyday. It's definitely an acquired taste, but I love it. Don't knock the vegemite, man! :weed: I'd be more worried about the pie, if I were you. A law was passed a couple of years back that says that pie manufacturers may use any part of the beast in the contents... including offal and off-cuts... that means you could be eating heart or lungs... or stomach or hooves... or penis... anything... :spew:

I haven't eaten a pie that I didn't cook myself in years.

Heh..OK But tell Gryph that he'll love my coffee...I make a mean "Cup o' Joe"
He's looking forward to it. :weed:

Now tell me, when we plan this, my son might want to come along with his family and meet us there. He's in the military in Guam currently. Would that be an inconvenience? He's been wanting to see Australia ever since my first proposal to vacation there.
Sure, that's fine with us... they'll need their own camper though. They have kids, I assume. How old are they? I suppose they'll want to do the theme parks at the Gold Coast?? I'd recommend Dreamworld... but there's also Movie World, Seaworld and Wet and Wild... heaps of other stuff to do down there too, but it's not a great place if you want to stay away from the crowds. :?
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
There is so much to respond to here between you and Gryph, I don't know where to begin. I'll tell you this much, I have found my t-shirt, and it's your avy.

:lol:
[youtube]V7HRF-BhUto[/youtube]
 

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
There is so much to respond to here between you and Gryph, I don't know where to begin. I'll tell you this much, I have found my t-shirt, and it's your avy.

:lol:
[youtube]V7HRF-BhUto[/youtube]
:lol: That's cool. I think I like ads like that better than anything else on the bloody idiot box these days.

:shock: No... but... it's MY t-shirt... one of my favourites. I could get you one...
 

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
That's all well and good if you can sew. I can't.

Ah well, It's just as well that I'm happy to content myself with the same mass-produced, vaguely funny crap that everyone else wears.
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Mm.. I've read theories that suggest we may see an appreciable increase in seas full of jellies, noxious to humans and otherwise, because of our habits (fishing practices, land use habits, etcetera). Interesting, if rather gelatinous, concept.
 

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
We were in the car today... (our new second-hand Land Cruiser, but that's another story...)

Anyway, the stereo is not working, so the kids decided to be our music for the day. *sigh* :roll: And funnily enough, this is the song that they started with. I was going to record them singing it because it was so cute... they're 10 and 11... they know this word for word. But the point is, it made me think of you guys...

This is 'Come to Australia'... a parody sung by a duet called The Scared Weird Little Guys. They're pretty popular here in Aus...

[youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eNEeq5qGh8I&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eNEeq5qGh8I&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube]
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
:lol: I LOVE IT! I have an uncle in Puerto Rico who has emus, and he thought they were ostriches. :shock: Ay, Berni, carajo!
 

ph03nix

Well-Known Member
I'll tell you a funny story about emus...

Well, emu eggs are large, strong and greenish-black. Aboriginals used to blow the egg out and carve a design on the shell, then the egg would be used as a 'prize' or a symbol of stature. In some communities, collecting emu eggs is a part of a young man's initiation into adulthood. Anyway, egg carving became a quite popular passtime there for a while. These days you have to have a permit to be able to collect eggs, and these are usually only given to indigenous people (so that they can be used traditionally), or wildlife rangers, some emu farmers etc. The problem though, was dealing with Daddy Emu to get the eggs. :?

Now, you probably already know that it's the males that inucbate the eggs and look after the young. (what a life... lady emus have it made) This means that it's somewhat dangerous to go anywhere near their eggs/chicks. Male emus can be quite nasty. They have serated beaks and don't peck as much as grab, twist and rip. They have extremely powerful legs, feet as big as dinner plates with claws to match. Needless to say, they could disembowel a man quite easily. :shock:

So the aboriginals devised a clever way to get to the eggs. They would go collecting in pairs and split up, coming in on the nest from different directions. One of the men would sneak in quietly, while the other would make himself seen from a distance. He would make lots of strange noises and strut around making strange movements with his body. You see, even though male emus are wonderful mothers, they're also incredibly curious.

Old Man Emu would be looking at this bloke in the distance doing all kinds of strange things, making strange noises, and he would be wondering what the fuck that weird thing was. So, he'd get up and go over to have a look. Once the emu was halfway between the man and it's nest, the man would fall over and lay on his back, kicking his legs up in the air. The emu would then walk over and, not sure what the hell was going on, would just stand there watching the bloke kicking his feet around and making noises on the ground.

Meanwhile, the second man would sneak in while the emu was pre-occupied and steal a couple of eggs. Aboriginals were the original sustainability experts and knew that taking all the eggs from the nest was not on. They would only take what was needed. Then, after he'd legged it out of there, the decoy would stop moving and lie completely still. Eventually the emu would decide that whatever that weird thing was just died, would lose interest and would move back to the nest. Then the bloke could get up and run away. And, since emus can't count, they just go on with their daily routine completely unaware that they've just lost a couple of kids.

Sometimes though, you come up against a really savage one... or a smart one... and things don't quite work out that way. Men can be killed quite easily, and that's why the carved eggs were such a prize to them.

I tell you though, it is a very funny process to watch. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Huh, who ME? I'm not messin' with emus. I'll watch. From a suitably safe distance. Those things can fuck you UP! Although, I'll also tell you this; if I had to make a choice between a monkey or an emu, I'd take the emu. Monkey fuck you up. Stay in the trees, monkey!
 
Top