Best place to buy Predatory Insects? Urgent

Kind Sir said:

Do you use persmillis for fungus gnats or what would you suggest?

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I suggest getting the water volumes figured out. Then you have no fungus gnats. And only detrimental if you induce reproduction. They are our fault.

Lightgreen2k said:

I would use that with californicus.

Predatory Mites work well when used correctly. When you bring in new soil / coco in bags / pre mixed bags such as ocean forest, they might have a batch that comes with mites.

Not sure how you acquired spider mites, but they can be controlled. Some of the methods above can work, but your question is about the Predatory Mites!!!

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I meant spider mites, thanks bud. Ya I’m doing my transplant to the 4x4 right now, let things settle for a little bit and go from there. Not ordering any beneficials until sunday, place i’m going through does overnight shipping and won’t send out until monday night I think anyways

MICHI-CAN said:

I suggest getting the water volumes figured out. Then you have no fungus gnats. And only detrimental if you induce reproduction. They are our fault.

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I meant spider mites, literally almost typed fungus gnats again. Between working and reading, I get things mixed up.

Ya the fungus gnats are not too much trouble

Kind Sir said:

I meant spider mites, literally almost typed fungus gnats again. Between working and reading, I get things mixed up.

Ya the fungus gnats are not too much trouble

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Neither are the spiders. Just grab them with your hand around first light as they gather in their webs. Wash down the drain as you wash your hands. Too easy.

MICHI-CAN said:

Neither are the spiders. Just grab them with your hand around first light as they gather in their webs. Wash down the drain as you wash your hands. Too easy.

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So they do gather when the lights first turn on? Interesting. I havnt seen much webbing the last few days, I’ve been diligent with my spraying. Used some straight water to clean the leaves off… going to hit them tonight after I transplant them into my 4x4, hoping it works out well.

Lightgreen2k said:

That is BULLSHIT what you are saying about predatory mites in general and how they work.

100% Predatory Mites the right ones will wipe out any [Fungus Gnats/ Thrips/ Spider Mites/ Root Aphids, Mealybugs]

You have not used them or else you would be singing a different tune.

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No it's not bullshit. And why would you bother with predatory mites after an infestation has already occurred when all you have to do is hit the plants with a citric acid spray. Citric acid is the active ingredient in popular effective organic products such as Dr Zymes, NukeEm, and others. It can be used during flower as well.

You can go ahead and use predatory mites once you get an infestation of spider mites and wait days/weeks for them to devour all the bad bugs. Or you can do a citric acid foliar and kill them immediately.

It's a no brainer. Kill them immediately or wait around for some predatory mites to hopefully wipe them all out. In the meantime they're sucking the life out of your plants.

Putting the word "bullshit" in all caps doesn't change the fact that predatory mites are going to take time. I don't know about you but if my plants had spider mites I wouldn't be wasting time waiting on some predatory mites. I'd kill them instantly with citric acid. Not days or weeks. Immediately.

Citric acid with iso and water and a dash of dish soap for the win.

xtsho said:

No it's not bullshit. And why would you bother with predatory mites after an infestation has already occurred when all you have to do is hit the plants with a citric acid spray. Citric acid is the active ingredient in popular effective organic products such as Dr Zymes, NukeEm, and others. It can be used during flower as well.

You can go ahead and use predatory mites once you get an infestation of spider mites and wait days/weeks for them to devour all the bad bugs. Or you can do a citric acid foliar and kill them immediately.

It's a no brainer. Kill them immediately or wait around for some predatory mites to hopefully wipe them all out. In the meantime they're sucking the life out of your plants.

Putting the word "bullshit" in all caps doesn't change the fact that predatory mites are going to take time. I don't know about you but if my plants had spider mites I wouldn't be wasting time waiting on some predatory mites. I'd kill them instantly with citric acid. Not days or weeks. Immediately.

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And that stuff is pretty cheap too, sometimes it’s difficult for me to realize that the cheap/simple method can work better than more complex/pricey methods.

Thanks for all the help. Neem/spinosad really did a good job but I’ve had to be diligent with it, should’ve sprayed the citric snd been done sooner.

xtsho said:

No it's not bullshit. And why would you bother with predatory mites after an infestation has already occurred when all you have to do is hit the plants with a citric acid spray. Citric acid is the active ingredient in popular effective organic products such as Dr Zymes, NukeEm, and others. It can be used during flower as well.

You can go ahead and use predatory mites once you get an infestation of spider mites and wait days/weeks for them to devour all the bad bugs. Or you can do a citric acid foliar and kill them immediately.

It's a no brainer. Kill them immediately or wait around for some predatory mites to hopefully wipe them all out. In the meantime they're sucking the life out of your plants.

Putting the word "bullshit" in all caps doesn't change the fact that predatory mites are going to take time. I don't know about you but if my plants had spider mites I wouldn't be wasting time waiting on some predatory mites. I'd kill them instantly with citric acid. Not days or weeks. Immediately.

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Predatory mites should have been there from the start. Part of integrated post management. I agree, at the point of infestation, predatory mites are gonna help fast enough.

Hollatchaboy said:

Predatory mites should have been there from the start. Part of integrated post management. I agree, at the point of infestation, predatory mites are gonna help fast enough.

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That was basically my point before being accused of spreading bullshit.

If you have an infestation of mites you want to get on it ASAP. Not wait for some bugs to arrive and then wait for them to eat the mites. Mites need to be addressed with an immediate solution once you discover them.

xtsho said:

No it's not bullshit. And why would you bother with predatory mites after an infestation has already occurred when all you have to do is hit the plants with a citric acid spray. Citric acid is the active ingredient in popular effective organic products such as Dr Zymes, NukeEm, and others. It can be used during flower as well.

You can go ahead and use predatory mites once you get an infestation of spider mites and wait days/weeks for them to devour all the bad bugs. Or you can do a citric acid foliar and kill them immediately.

It's a no brainer. Kill them immediately or wait around for some predatory mites to hopefully wipe them all out. In the meantime they're sucking the life out of your plants.

Putting the word "bullshit" in all caps doesn't change the fact that predatory mites are going to take time. I don't know about you but if my plants had spider mites I wouldn't be wasting time waiting on some predatory mites. I'd kill them instantly with citric acid. Not days or weeks. Immediately.

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What you are saying is bullshit, because I have had my plants covered in thrips and fungus gnats and only used predatory mites to get rid of them.

I 100% know you have never purchased or used them or else you would be singing a different tune. The bugs take about 8 days to kick in not weeks.

Also this tells me that you haven't used the product once in your lifetime, the bugs come in about 50,000 predatory mites good enough for green houses of usually 1000 sq ft. Most home growers if luck are doing 200 - 400 sq ft of a home.

It's better not to speak on products you have 0 experience with and it "shows. "

xtsho said:

That was basically my point before being accused of spreading bullshit.

If you have an infestation of mites you want to get on it ASAP. Not wait for some bugs to arrive and then wait for them to eat the mites. Mites need to be addressed with an immediate solution once you discover them.

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And what you are saying saying is bullshit.

The Persimilis go after the bugs and eat them off the plants. There are stuff that used for larva such as neems and other soil based predators, but ones that go after adults.

You guys Really know nothing on this subject and it shows.

Lightgreen2k said:

What you are saying is bullshit, because I have had my plants covered in thrips and fungus gnats and only used predatory mites to get rid of them.

I 100% know you have never purchased or used them or else you would be singing a different tune. The bugs take about 8 days to kick in not weeks.

Also this tells me that you haven't used the product once in your lifetime, the bugs come in about 50,000 predatory mites good enough for green houses of usually 1000 sq ft. Most home growers if luck are doing 200 - 400 sq ft of a home.

It's better not to speak on products you have 0 experience with and it "shows. "

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You're just ridiculous. It doesn't matter if I've used them or not. I'm not waiting 8 fucking days for some damn bugs to take care of mites. It takes 5 minutes to mix up some citric acid with water and spray your plants down. While you're wasting 8 days of mites munching on your plants some of us deal with it in well under a day.

You keep going on about whether I've used them or not. Who gives a damn. I gave a better remedy after the onslaught of an infestation than your stupid wait 8 days crap.

Come back when you're brain is functioning.

Lightgreen2k said:

And what you are saying saying is bullshit.

The Persimilis go after the bugs and eat them off the plants. There are stuff that used for larva such as neems and other soil based predators, but ones that go after adults.

You guys Really know nothing on this subject and it shows.

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Go hang out with your predatory mites. It's obvious you don't have a clue. 8 fucking days. Good grief. I prefer 5 minutes and dead mites.

I do just fine with my IPM regimen and it's only 3 very inexpensive products. Citric acid, sesame oil, and potassium silicate. With those 3 things I can prevent bugs, PM, botrytis, and other pathogens.

You can go out and buy all the bugs you want. The fact of the matter is I provided an immediate solution for eliminating mites and you come on here with some stupid 8 days until they're gone. Why would anyone wait 8 days? Do you see how totally stupid that sounds.

Hey I have spider mites eating my plants.

Me - Kill them in minutes with citric acid

You - Wait 8 days and hope the predatory mites eat them all.

The only bullshit is you.

Come back when you grow a brain.

Kind Sir said:

And that stuff is pretty cheap too, sometimes it’s difficult for me to realize that the cheap/simple method can work better than more complex/pricey methods.

Thanks for all the help. Neem/spinosad really did a good job but I’ve had to be diligent with it, should’ve sprayed the citric snd been done sooner.

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Yes it is inexpensive. 2.5-3 tsp per quart of water. Kills them on contact. Another tip is to use sesame oil instead of neem. It's cheaper and can be found at most grocery stores. Just read the label to make sure it's pure. Much of it is just vegetable oil with a little sesame thrown in for the flavor.

Good luck getting rid of the mites.

Waiting for any predatory insects is madness …
You have to hammer the bastards NOW. Mite eggs begin hatching every 3-5 days … adults can live up to month. So tell me why waiting is good. ?

Mighty wash the plant , knock the numbers down , hit it with one form of chemical treatment then reverse and use a different one at next treatment.

I use a simple ISO / water spray 5:1 and torch the fuckers on site. An alternative is dropping ISO for food safe grain alcohol like EVERCLEAR … that one i do 2 part water to 1 everclear and nuke them eggs and all. I put plant in tub for this. First application mist over and under …. Wait 15 minutes then blast them again. Alcohol element will evaporate quickly

xtsho said:

Go hang out with your predatory mites. It's obvious you don't have a clue. 8 fucking days. Good grief. I prefer 5 minutes and dead mites.

I do just fine with my IPM regimen and it's only 3 very inexpensive products. Citric acid, sesame oil, and potassium silicate. With those 3 things I can prevent bugs, PM, botrytis, and other pathogens.

You can go out and buy all the bugs you want. The fact of the matter is I provided an immediate solution for eliminating mites and you come on here with some stupid 8 days until they're gone. Why would anyone wait 8 days? Do you see how totally stupid that sounds.

Hey I have spider mites eating my plants.

Me - Kill them in minutes with citric acid

You - Wait 8 days and hope the predatory mites eat them all.

The only bullshit is you.

Come back when you grow a brain.

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You lied and made it seem like you have actual experience with the products which I know you have never used a day in your life the end.

xtsho said:

Go hang out with your predatory mites. It's obvious you don't have a clue. 8 fucking days. Good grief. I prefer 5 minutes and dead mites.

I do just fine with my IPM regimen and it's only 3 very inexpensive products. Citric acid, sesame oil, and potassium silicate. With those 3 things I can prevent bugs, PM, botrytis, and other pathogens.

You can go out and buy all the bugs you want. The fact of the matter is I provided an immediate solution for eliminating mites and you come on here with some stupid 8 days until they're gone. Why would anyone wait 8 days? Do you see how totally stupid that sounds.

Hey I have spider mites eating my plants.

Me - Kill them in minutes with citric acid

You - Wait 8 days and hope the predatory mites eat them all.

The only bullshit is you.

Come back when you grow a brain.

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The thing is these bugs don't arrive as bigger spider mite stage the time they are spinning webs. It takes at least 12 days to get to that point, so all that larva could have been take car off.

I say 8 days for huge places of 50; 000 sq ft for them to establish themselves.

Just don't act and speak on natural means if you have never actually used it before.

Lightgreen2k said:

You lied and made it seem like you have actual experience with the products which I know you have never used a day in your life the end.

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Now you're just being an idiot.

Here is my first post before you said I was spreading bullshit. I never said or implied that I used predatory mites. That doesn't negate the fact that the OP's best solution would be something other than adding more bugs in the hopes that they eventually devour all the bad spider mites. And I don't have to have used them to understand the life cycle of mites and that it's not an immediate or even overnight solution. Your comprehension is lacking. You decided to attack me for whatever reason rather than provide any actual assistance. I gave a proven treatment for eradicating mites. You chose to go off on some tangent like a complete moron.

If you're such an expert on predatory mites then why the hell didn't you just answer the OP's question and give him some links to suppliers? It's people like you giving crappy information that gives so many growers bad information and causes even further problems.

While you're sitting there watching webbing form on your damn plants waiting for the predatory mites smarter people than you will ever be eradicate them with a natural organic method and move on.

xtsho said:

If you already have a mite infestation predatory mites are not going to do much of anything. You're just adding more bugs to die on your plants.

Citric acid kills them dead and can be used in flower.

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Lightgreen2k said:

The thing is these bugs don't arrive as bigger spider mite stage the time they are spinning webs. It takes at least 12 days to get to that point, so all that larva could have been take car off.

I say 8 days for huge places of 50; 000 sq ft for them to establish themselves.

Just don't act and speak on natural means if you have never actually used it before.

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I don't use the ignore button but it was made for people like you. I'll just make a mental note to skip over any and all posts you make in the future.