Blue cheese,trainwreck E&F + multistrain organic grow..1200 watts, aircooled, w/ co2

sonar

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Hey man can I ask you a question? I got a 250w hps, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I've been thinking about how I want to do thing, and was wondering the best way to use a smaller system like that. Would it be better to grow like 2 bigger plants with a 250w or do a mini sog with maybe like 4-6 smaller ones? Either way, I'm thinking I'm about only using it for a grow or two before upgrading to a bigger unit. I really like the concept of the SOG. By the time those are finished, you can be putting the next batch immediatly under. That's good to know about Barney's Blue Cheese, I wouldn't have guessed it would be that big of a yielder.
 

trichlone fiend

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Hey man can I ask you a question? I got a 250w hps, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I've been thinking about how I want to do thing, and was wondering the best way to use a smaller system like that. Would it be better to grow like 2 bigger plants with a 250w or do a mini sog with maybe like 4-6 smaller ones? Either way, I'm thinking I'm about only using it for a grow or two before upgrading to a bigger unit. I really like the concept of the SOG. By the time those are finished, you can be putting the next batch immediatly under. That's good to know about Barney's Blue Cheese, I wouldn't have guessed it would be that big of a yielder.

Personally, I would flower your plants from clone...a 250w would be all the better of a reason for doing so. Try to keep your bulb as close as possible w/o burning. I do not know the foot print of a 250, but I would guess a 2' X 2'...maybe push it with 2.5' x 2.5'. I think I would try 12 ladies straight from rooting clone, see how that works out. Your just going to have to experiment, I love dense gardens myself.

What I've come to conclusion with through trial and error, bigger plants require alot of side light to truely reap the benefit. When growing with our bulbs positioned horiziontally, and stationary, we're only going to penetrate our canopy a foot deep or so ( with 600w HPS)...a 250w's penetration will be of a more shallow dept. Air cool if possible and get that light close.... to my point, (in order to reap the true benefit of growing big plants) I'd suggest hanging your blub vertically, with the bulb in your canopy(view video).
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sonar

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Thanks man. Your setup looks great. Similar to what I'm after but with soil. I Really like how uniform everything is and how it utilizes as much of the light as possible.
 

trichlone fiend

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sonar

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Nah never used any teas or anything like that. I'm using the Botanicare line which is suppose to be natural/organic. It sure smells that way to me, haha.
 

trichlone fiend

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Nah never used any teas or anything like that. I'm using the Botanicare line which is suppose to be natural/organic. It sure smells that way to me, haha.
...ah, I see. Do you like your results w/ bontanicare? I've used Fox Farm's Big Bloom before w/ okay results, the organic/guano teas amazed me though.
...anywho, happy grow'n bro. Keep me updated...:joint:
 

sonar

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Yeah the plants seem to be liking the botanicare, but I never did organics before so I don't really have anything to compare it to. The only thing I don't like is how you are suppose to buy like 2 or 3 other supplemental products in addition to the baseline grow and bloom formulas. You'd think for the price they charge for the stuff, they could just add all that to the grow and bloom in the appropriate amounts.
 

trichlone fiend

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Hey! About the organic guano teas, do you have any more information?

...sure, here's my copy and paste:

What you'll need:
Seabird guano, bat guano, earth worm castings, kelp meal (or liquid seaweed), molessas, a bubble stone and bubble pump, a paint strainer. 5 gallon bucket.
What to do:
Get a couple of gallons of water from tap....let set on bubbles over night to dechlorinize it, then pH balance the water to 6.5....take a couple tablespoons of each (worm castings, seabird, bat, kelp, molessas) and put inside paint strainer and tie shut...hang the mix over the bubble stone to make movement/activity in the water....let set for 24-48 hours....put 2 cups of this per gallon to new dechlorinized pH balanced water, then water in once weekly.

...you'll want to back up off of the earthworm castings and the seabird guano in mid flower to eliminate nitrogen avalibility.
...the molessas and liquid seaweed are liquid , however, still use table spoon measurements.
...stop giving tea @ weeks 5 for an 8 week strain, or allow a couple weeks to flush/leach (not so important organically but, I prefer to save the $)
 

sonar

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That's awesome man! I can't believe the weight on those things.

Hey I remember in your other thread I think you said you did SOG in soil and it was a full time job. What was it about soil compared to hydro that is so much more time consuming? I would have thought soil would be a little easier than hydro. Just curious.

Thanks for the tea recipe btw I'm gonna hang on to that one.
 

trichlone fiend

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well...I grew in 1 gallon grow bags in order to cram as many as possible under each light (grow bags work great as an alternative to square pots because you can shape the bags as you cram them, unlike round pots) ...the pain in the ass is watering them. I like to water, then come back 1/2 hour later and water again. This way the soil becomes moist throughout the whole pot evenly....and doing so, took hours each watering/feeding....it's just really time consuming, basically. Hydro, I just tap my res once all is set up....the timer/subpump does all my watering/feeding for me.
 

trichlone fiend

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...harvest day for Ms. Trainwreck.
Wet weight:
Light#1 = 2,235 grams
Light#2 = 2,191 grams

...estimated dry weight: 1,100 grams (or about 40 ounces):weed:
...I'll be harvesting the Bluecheese 2morrow...stay tuned. :hump:

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