Blue Mountain Organics UPDATE

GreenSurfer

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hey greensurfer! what happened bro? your the one who started this thread and you havent chimed in yet on your results with the BMO products...so what do you think?
Buenos Dias Bagelthief...I'm here and lurking.

The BMO grow will start sometime in mid-Dec...for two reasons...until then we are going have quite a few house guests and we just got a sweet hook-up from my buddy's brother deep in the mountains.

So, since we aren't lacking greens and have peole using our house like hotel for the next five weeks...I figured we would make this a deep winter project. Plus, from Dec. through March since we don't travel much then and the house space is cooler.

As I type, I'm looking into the grow space...SPT, Foliar, Flower, and Green are on the self ready to go! And, there is a tiny bottle of SuperThrive and NutriLife Heavyweight (organic carbo).

Don't worry...the report will be here! We are narrowing down what we want to grow...the current bean stock is Afghani, Skunkberry, Mango, and Juicy Fruit.

And, stop trying to steal my bagels.

-GreenSurfer
 

Bagelthief

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whoops! typical stoner mistake on my part....now that i re-read your message i understand what you meant. you said "I'm glad you like the BMO stuff. They manage to pack allot of punch into those pint size bottles. I've gotten good results, consistently with their stuff; that's why I recommend it along with Earth Juice, Metanaturals & Botanicare."

i thought you meant "along with" literally!! lol.

ahh yes...the chicken poop is definitely very good stuff. i expected a stinky bag of nastiness, but the odor is very low and non-offending. i just recently put a table spoon in each plant (top dress) along with some much needed SPT. i had gone without the SPT for a good 3 weeks. during that time, my crop had been infected with a small but dangerous patch of powdery mildew!!!!! i didnt notice it until it had almost damn near killed two plants! all the others didnt seem affected, but i sprayed all the plants with a solution of milk and water just in case. that night i also gave them the first SPT in 3 weeks, and the next day all the plants seemed so much more green and healthy! im stoked...im going to ask BMO if they sell that magic in gallon jugs or something...i go through those bottles pretty damn fast and it doesnt seem like i'll be slowing my usage anytime soon!

anywho, like i was saying, the chicken shit is recommended. like you said, its the perfect amendment for flowering. it dissolves slow and steady, giving you that slight nitrogen boost that flowering plants still need (especially with the flower power, that stuff has almost no nitrogen at all)

hey OhSo, do you have a preference on which organic line of nutes you think is particularly effective out of those we mentioned earlier?

hey Greensurfer. glad to hear all is good. that kinda sucks about people using your house as a hotel...i understand you cant get the privacy that a cultivator of the weed needs to feel safe. lemme guess? is it inlaws? dammit they will kill a grow-op EVERYTIME...it never fails...
 

GreenSurfer

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You are correct! It is an in-law...he is very cool & I like him alot, but I doubt he is 'garden' friendly. I'll be germing the day after he leaves...plus the room temps will be perferct then...natural 70 average during the day...64 at night!
 

keyman

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So, I am left wondering....
I see there is high hopes of how well this stuff works and they have a deal going on a super pack (it includes (1) large bottle of Super Plant Tonic, (1) pound of all Organic Worm Castings, (1) pound of Granulated Chicken Manure (NPK 5-3-2.5) it's low odor and ORMI listed, plus (1) pound of High Phosphorus Bat Guano). Now if I got that, would it cover all my needs from seed to bloom? and would I use the worm castings at the same time the chicken poop while watering with the tonic on a bi-weekly setting during growth? Then bat and chicken poop with tonic during flower?
thanks for any advise for a first timer.
you peeps are gonna love my steath grow set up. I'll be posting some picks soon!
 

Ohsogreen

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For those that have not heard - BMO is going to shut down their little factory from mid Dec 08 to Feb 09 - to upgrade and refit it. I got an customer service email the other day, I just opened it tonight. So, if you need some, now might be a good time to get some. You know how construction is - never on time.....
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Keep it Real....Organic.....
 

420MED

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We appreciate all the info on BMO. I just recieved my bottle of SPT today can't wait to use it. I'm currently using Age Old organics bloom, ff Big Bloom, Bio genesis SYNERGY, and FF Ocean Forest/Light warrior mix. I also add molasses about once every 2 weeks. I'm currently watering 3 times a week or so, how should I add the BMO SPT to the mix.
 

catincombs

Active Member
We appreciate all the info on BMO. I just recieved my bottle of SPT today can't wait to use it. I'm currently using Age Old organics bloom, ff Big Bloom, Bio genesis SYNERGY, and FF Ocean Forest/Light warrior mix. I also add molasses about once every 2 weeks. I'm currently watering 3 times a week or so, how should I add the BMO SPT to the mix.


The SPT is great stuff 420Med. Ohso got me to using it this way and it works real good. 1st time you use it. Mix it up one oz to one gal of water. Give each plant one quart, if they have a gallon of soil. The label says one quart per gallon of soil, up to 1 gallon of SPT mix (maximum), like if you had your plants in 5 gallon buckets of soil or planted in the ground. Do not mix in anything else or feed for 3 days. Then on the fourth day, water only. I notice you say you are feeding and watering every few days. That will keep your roots small, water twice a week (max), feed once a week (max). Also, don't feed for a week after the first application of SPT. The SPT will break down the stuff that's locked up in the soil and feed it to your girls pretty quick, so to avoid nute burn, don't feed like a said for awhile. Then when you start feeding start off at half strength for the next few feedings. That will keep your girls happy and avoid the BURN.
 

420MED

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Thanks Catincombs i appreciate it. When you say water two times a week sould I mix the nutes/supplements one watering, and SPT & Water the second? Im using Age Old Bloom, FF Big Big Bloom and Biogenesis synergy.

Also do you let your water sit out to remove chlorine or use fish tank drops? Or what do you recommend to remove chlorine.
 

Ohsogreen

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Thanks Catincombs i appreciate it. When you say water two times a week sould I mix the nutes/supplements one watering, and SPT & Water the second? Im using Age Old Bloom, FF Big Big Bloom and Biogenesis synergy.

Also do you let your water sit out to remove chlorine or use fish tank drops? Or what do you recommend to remove chlorine.
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420Med.... That would be a good way to do it. I like to use my SPT on on watering only days. It can be mixed with ferts and other supplements, with no real difference in performance. I've just gotten slightly better results by using them seperate.
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It is also a must, to get the chlorine out of your water. If the water system where you live, using old fashing chlorine - it will evaporate in 24 hours. Even less if you oxygenate it with a small cheap aquarium air pump / air stone.
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If your water system uses the new chlorimide it does not evaportate - it must be chemically removed - with a fish tank type chlorine remover. Then let to sit for at least 12 hours.
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The chlorine must go - or it kills the microbeasties (good bacteria & fungi) in the SPT.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic....

P.S. - Hey Catincombs....glad to see you back on RIU....
 

420MED

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Thanks for the help guys. I used some bottled water for the spt. I found out my water supply has clorine and cloramite in it. Probably just get bottled water once a week to mix the spt. Ph down is safe to use with the spt too right? (bottled water ph was 8.5).
 

Ohsogreen

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Thanks for the help guys. I used some bottled water for the spt. I found out my water supply has clorine and cloramite in it. Probably just get bottled water once a week to mix the spt. Ph down is safe to use with the spt too right? (bottled water ph was 8.5).
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420MED..... pH down is safe to use with SPT. If the bottled water you are using is around 8.5, mix it with SPT as per the label. It will not be 8.5 for long. I bet the SPT will bring it down, at least, to a 7. Mix it, wait 15 minutes then test the pH. If it's 7 or above, use the pH down. If it's under 7, no worries..... anything between 5 and 6.8 is a good range for SPT.
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real...Organic....
 

shannonball

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Here is a feeding schedule you can use and adjust as needed based on your plants.

Here is what the owner of BMO told me about using their products:

I apologize for taking so long to respond to your message. My email inbox has been a little swamped
> this week.
>
> The Grow It Green should be used every 5 to 7 days (ever 5 th day
> for heavy feeding plants, 7 th day for light feeding plants, and every
> 12 to 14 for houseplants). The Foliar Harmony should be used as needed
> (when foliage appears lighter green than normal). Or no more than once
> every 7 days, to help boost growth.
> Since your wife fed them with the Foliar Harmony, I'd wait two
> days before feeding, via the roots. Foliar feeding is a very
> efficient way to feed / correct minor deficiencies. Nutrients from
> foliar feeding travels to all parts of the plant in just under two
> hours on average.
> However, frequent foliar feeding (more than once every 7 days),
> will discourage root growth. In order to have respectable yields with
> plants such as Tomatoes, good root development is a must. Allowing
> the soil to dry slightly, then doing a deep watering and/or feeding
> with a slight runoff from the bottom of the pots, will ensure great
> root development.
> Tomatoes also require up to twice the recommended amounts of
> Grow It Green and Flower Power.
>
> Here are some general use guidelines which may be helpful:
>
> The best way to use our products is in rotation. Water, feed, water,
> feed, (foliar feed as necessary), on separate days, in a continuous
> cycle. All of our liquid products can be mixed together in the same
> gallon of water, with no loss in performance.
> With the separations in NPK values, you can tune your
> fertilizer mix, to the values that best suit your particular plant(s).
> We recommend that you mix each liquid product as per the label on the
> bottle.
> The Super Plant Tonic should be used from seedling stage until
> 3/4 of the way through the total growth period for short season plants
> (plants with a total life of 6 months or less). For trees or shrubs it
> can be used throughout the year, provided soil temperatures are above
> 40 degrees. You mix it as per the label, giving each plant one quart
> per gallon of soil volume (1 gallon maximum for in ground plants).
> Then it's best to wait two days, to allow the microorganisms to
> establish a stable population, before feeding (this applies only to
> the first time you use the SPT). After that, it can be used weekly and
> directly mixed in with the other products if you desire.
> The Grow It Green is used during initial vegetative growth. Use
> weekly, giving each plant one quart of mixed up GIG, per gallon of
> soil for container plants. Example: 2 gallon pots would receive 2
> quarts of mixed up GIG per week. If your plants are in the ground, 1/2
> gallon (for light feeding plants) to 1 gallon per week for heavier
> feeding plants).
> Then just prior to fruit / nut / vegetable / or flower
> production, reduce the mixing strength of GIG to 1/2 the bottle
> recommended mixing strength and add the Flower Power at 1/2 the bottle
> recommended mixing strength. Then slowly reduce the mixing strength of
> the GIG, while increasing the mixing strength of the FP. The
> decreases and increases should be done in teaspoon sized measurements
> ( 5 ml).
> The Foliar Harmony can be used during vegetative growth and
> during fruit / nut / vegetable or flower production. During
> vegetative growth, we recommend foliar application every two weeks.
> During flowering, foliar application during the first few weeks only,
> works best.
> FH can also be mixed in with FP (instead of or in conjunction
> with the GIG), during the fruit / nut / vegetable or flower production
> phase of growth, to increase nitrogen levels to ensure plants finish
> at their peak (staying green slightly longer, to increase yield).
> If you do use the FH as a Foliar Feed during the later half of
> flowering, please rinse foliage with room temperature water, twice
> over a two day period prior to harvest. This is best done early in the
> morning or late in the evening, with temperatures are cooler. Or prior
> to lights on, if growing indoors. Both the tops and bottoms of the
> leaves need to be rinsed until a good runoff occurs.
> These are general guidelines for using our products, some plants,
> like corn and tomatoes, which are heavy feeders, can be fed twice the
> label recommended amounts, after the second week of vegetative growth.
> The best (safest) way to determine the proper feeding levels
> for your particular plants is to start at 1/2 the label recommended
> feeding strength, for the first feeding. Then slowly increase the
> mixing strengths of our products, with each feeding (in teaspoon
> increments). This helps avoid nutrient burning of foliage, which can
> slow down plant production.
> Some people also try feeding most of their plants at 1/2 the
> label recommended mixing strength, then feed two plants at the bottle
> recommended mixing strength, the first feeding. If the plants being
> fed the stronger mixing strength show no signs of nutrient burn, then
> you know it's safe to increase the mixing strength for the others, at
> the next feeding.
> However, if the two plants being fed the stronger mixing
> strength, do show signs of nutrient burn, you have only affected two
> plants rather than your whole crop. You would then simply skip the
> next feeding of the nutrient burned plants and give them only water on
> the next feeding day. After that, they would then receive the same
> mixing strength as the larger group on the next scheduled feeding day.
> If you use a PH meter to check your mixed up fertilizer
> solution, all of our products work best in the range of 5.5 to 7.2
> 5 to 6 for hydroponics, 6 to 7.2 for soil.
> A TDS / EC meter used to determine ppm or EC, will be of little
> use with our products. The NPK in each is bound differently than the
> highly conductive commercial chemical based fertilizers.
> Use of that meter will not reflect the true NPK value of your
> mixed up fertilizer solution, since organic fertilizers are less
> conductive, because of the way the NPK is bound in longer carbon and
> hydrogen chains. Organic fertilizers also lack, PH stabilizers, dyes
> and the high mineral salt content of the chemical based fertilizers,
> which is why organic fertilizers are much healthier for both your
> plants and you.
> Our only recommendations about the water you add our products to
> are: that is should be chlorine free (for best results) and have a ppm
> reading of less than 180 ppm. Above that level, mineral elements in
> hard water tend to cause other minerals in the fertilizers to drop out
> of solution, rending them less effective.
> I hope this information is helpful. If you have any other
> questions, please feel free to email us. We will do our best to answer
> them promptly.
> Thank You. Signed. - Bill Nelson, Owner of Blue Mtn Organics
 

Boneman

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Hey Ohso! Long time no see. If it wasnt for you, I wouldnt have been the beneficiary of BMO and all the good that product does......to include being easy on the wallet. I have got something going right now with hempy and FFOF. The hempy is getting grow it green and the FFOF is getting nothing but ph'd water. Unbelieveable difference :hump:
 

Forsaken5678

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Been using BMO products for about 6 months now and NO complaints at all! This stuff (I got the whole line including SPT) works GREAT!!!! The SPT even works for clones...cut, dip, plant. Works great!
 

SupraSPL

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Here is a feeding schedule you can use and adjust as needed based on your plants.

Here is what the owner of BMO told me about using their products:
Wow I am going to have to reread that one a few times, thanks for posting that helpful info and chart!
 

evilpyro26

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BMO products rock!! I've been using their line of products for over a year now, and have had some great results. I clone using the SPT as a dip and I always have a 100% success rate. My ladies always have a giant root mass and produce nice, tasty, organic buds. Thanks to Ohsogreen for calling attention to this wonderful and inexpensive product line!
 
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