Budmaster Cob x-9 / x-9 / x-6 / x-6 : 1500w UK Grow

Fevs said:

1500w actual draw of cob.. All tested and working!

Few pics of the cobs 1st.

All these diy builds with cooling issues may be cheaper, but these imo are in indeed worth the extra money.

I took donations for less than 1lb of weed to buy these.

In fact the Sweet Seeds Crème Mandarin alone from the last grow has covered this. I've done 4 trips of 4 with a qp and I still have 4 ounces of that left.

People say these are overpriced, but if still had a kitchen side full of jars of weed after, then giving up 1lb for these... I'm amazed more people don't. I've always had balls and been willing to take a chance, so I don't miss out on much!

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Man I gotta get in the LED game, that's like $100-150 in parts. Most of which are going to be garbage knock off Chinese shit since they won't list the name of the drivers manufacturers or fans.

The most expensive Osram LED I can find on the market is $18 Canadian, with the average being $5 Canadian.... You can assume those drivers are $5 a piece or less as they will be buying cheap Chinese garbage in bulk, most likely ordered off alibaba. Fans and heatsinks prolly another $5 per COB. Osram is the cheapest LED manufacturer out. Those heatsinks they picture on their website are pathetic.... seriously an $8 Arctic cooler would blow those away, so they are obviously under $8 a piece...

How much are you selling your weed for that you took donations for under an elbow and got 4000 Euro in lights?

Somethings not adding up here.

If auto flower ditch weed sells for 4000 Euros for "under a pound" I'm glad I live in Canada..... For real you wouldn't get $2k for that shit here if you could sell it at all.

Mr.Head said:

Man I gotta get in the LED game, that's like $100-150 in parts. Most of which are going to be garbage knock off Chinese shit since they won't list the name of the drivers manufacturers or fans.

The most expensive Osram LED I can find on the market is $18 Canadian, with the average being $5 Canadian.... You can assume those drivers are $5 a piece or less as they will be buying cheap Chinese garbage in bulk, most likely ordered off alibaba. Fans and heatsinks prolly another $5 per COB. Osram is the cheapest LED manufacturer out. Those heatsinks they picture on their website are pathetic.... seriously an $8 Arctic cooler would blow those away, so they are obviously under $8 a piece...

How much are you selling your weed for that you took donations for under an elbow and got 4000 Euro in lights?

Somethings not adding up here.

If auto flower ditch weed sells for 4000 Euros for "under a pound" I'm glad I live in Canada..... For real you wouldn't get $2k for that shit here if you could sell it at all.

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I'm glad you live in Canada too

lukio said:

I'm glad you live in Canada too

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Yeah it's pretty sweet here.

You got a nice garden. I just question why you guys go against what people have proven to work. If you're in Europe and have high energy costs you should be focused on efficiency, blurple and cheap COB panels don't have that. These LED companies are a fucking joke, they use garbage parts, the lights have high failure rates.

You can get more pot, for cheaper both electricity wise and light cost, with CXB's, Vero's or Eb Strips. Wiring is trivial. I just don't understand why you use LED's when you're missing the entire purpose of using LED's if you're using 1500 watts in LED's to replace 1500watts in HPS you're doing it wrong. The entire purpose is to get equal or more light for less money and power costs... if you're using 750 watts of LED's in a 3x3 you're doing it wrong.

Mr.Head said:

Yeah it's pretty sweet here.

You got a nice garden. I just question why you guys go against what people have proven to work. If you're in Europe and have high energy costs you should be focused on efficiency, blurple and cheap COB panels don't have that. These LED companies are a fucking joke, they use garbage parts, the lights have high failure rates.

You can get more pot, for cheaper both electricity wise and light cost, with CXB's, Vero's or Eb Strips. Wiring is trivial. I just don't understand why you use LED's when you're missing the entire purpose of using LED's if you're using 1500 watts in LED's to replace 1500watts in HPS you're doing it wrong. The entire purpose is to get equal or more light for less money and power costs... if you're using 750 watts of LED's in a 3x3 you're doing it wrong.

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Read my journal again before you spout more verbal bullshit please! I'm replacing 3500w for 1500w, you missed that bit, more like got it wrong in fact! I never said anything about 4000 euros either... So you got that wrong too!

Have you had a bad day Mr.'Give'Head? Did you get out the wrong side of bed and think, ooh I know, I'll troll a grow journal?

Seriously, get a life you bell end! If you do want to troll somebodys journal, get your facts correct, so you don't look like a fool!

I'm glad givehead lives in Canada too!

Mr.Head said:

Yeah it's pretty sweet here.

You got a nice garden. I just question why you guys go against what people have proven to work. If you're in Europe and have high energy costs you should be focused on efficiency, blurple and cheap COB panels don't have that. These LED companies are a fucking joke, they use garbage parts, the lights have high failure rates.

You can get more pot, for cheaper both electricity wise and light cost, with CXB's, Vero's or Eb Strips. Wiring is trivial. I just don't understand why you use LED's when you're missing the entire purpose of using LED's if you're using 1500 watts in LED's to replace 1500watts in HPS you're doing it wrong. The entire purpose is to get equal or more light for less money and power costs... if you're using 750 watts of LED's in a 3x3 you're doing it wrong.

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you what mate? " question why you guys go against what people have proven to work " Both of/ all of our lights work incredibly well.

"These LED companies are a fucking joke, they use garbage parts" Yeah...cause the chips in BM panels are shit, right ? wrong.

"The entire purpose is to get equal or more light for less money" Which Fevs and i have done, successfully.

You're a fucking idiot. This is a grow diary - not somewhere for ignorance to spout bull shit - now, fuck off

Fevs said:

Read my journal again before you spout more verbal bullshit please! I'm replacing 3500w for 1500w, you missed that bit, more like got it wrong in fact! I never said anything about 4000 euros either... So you got that wrong too!

Have you had a bad day Mr.'Give'Head? Did you get out the wrong side of bed and think, ooh I know, I'll troll a grow journal?

Seriously, get a life you bell end! If you do want to troll somebodys journal, get your facts correct, so you don't look like a fool!

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The lights you listed in the title of the thread are listed on their website as having a total cost of 4000 euro. You said you paid for them with under an elbow of auto flowers. Deductions were made.

You two are super sensitive for being on the internet

I came into a thread that's clearly an advertisement for a company and shit on their products, so no I didn't read the whole thing I don't knowingly read 10 pages of ads so you can get your discount, I didn't shit on you as a grower, although I did question your ability to get 4k for under a lb of autoflowers.

It's advice, you're taking it as a troll job. You are on one of the best LED grow light forums out there, people come here to read shit that don't even grow weed, or have any interest in it at all. All the research has been done for you. All you have to do is take 4 hours (Tops) and read it. Instead you got 4k worth of lights that are cheapo Chinese shit basically a step up from a mars panel.

Seriously when you're done being butt hurt on the internet because someone didn't take into account your sensitive ass feels you can take a light apart and source the parts yourself. I guarantee that lights components top out at 150 MAX. That's a 700 euro mark up on the 6 a shit fucking Chinese light, and about 900 on the 9, mars did the same thing and took a lot of growers. Don't let your feelings get hurt, go to the LED section and read.

You're still talking shit! This is Not an advertisement for anything! You're wrong!

I'm just confused why you felt the need to talk shit in my journal..?

As always my plants will do 'some' of the talking for me!

Firstly I never mentioned 4000 euros. I mentioned $4000 as that was the google exchange rate for what I spent converted to usd $ from £ to help the US readers understand.

I get £240 per ounces, doing it in 1/4's (minimum donation amount), £200 per oz if getting whole oz. So you can now work out the conversion again between £ and us $, not euros.

Maybe that will help you clear up 'some' of the shit within your head!

£240 x 16 ounces is £3840, hence what I said I had to donate less than 1lb.. 16 ounces in a 1lb..

Anything yet dude?

You getting this yet givehead?

hey fevs I took your advise & raised my cobs higher than what Johnson recommended it seems to be working

Fevs said:

You're still talking shit! This is Not an advertisement for anything! You're wrong!

I'm just confused why you felt the need to talk shit in my journal..?

As always my plants will do 'some' of the talking for me!

Firstly I never mentioned 4000 euros. I mentioned $4000 as that was the google exchange rate for what I spent converted to usd $ from £ to help the US readers understand.

I get £240 per ounces, doing it in 1/4's (minimum donation amount), £200 per oz if getting whole oz. So you can now work out the conversion again between £ and us $, not euros.

Maybe that will help you clear up 'some' of the shit within your head!

£240 x 16 ounces is £3840, hence what I said I had to donate less than 1lb.. 16 ounces in a 1lb..

Anything yet dude?

You getting this yet givehead?

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Hey fevs how's the young whippet doing? I don't think you're advertising as our conversations on your other thread explaining what you were gonna do & how you were gonna go about it were pretty clear

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Healthy looking ladies you have there!

Yeah I kind of just take all the sales talk with a pinch of salt... It's like a competition where every company wants the most par in the world! So they all go for it. It ends badly for us growers

Some led companies will put lenses in their led panels which are too much light, directed straight down. Not to make the plants happy, to improve their stats. In the end, we adjust to how they made it, 'my cobs are also' working better further away. Plus they are still on half power. I think my plants will be too compact if veg'd on full power, but seem to have the perfect node spacing on half power. So I was using 3500w on 24-0, now using under 1kw for 1 month, then will be more for flowering.

I'm saving over £60 a week easily on electricity! Probably using the same as a place where weed isn't even being grown. Nice change that is!

horribleherk said:

Hey fevs how's the young whippet doing? I don't think you're advertising as our conversations on your other thread explaining what you were gonna do & how you were gonna go about it were pretty clear

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Good, I certainly ain't advertising in any way shape or form.

Of course I want these leds to do well, also I feel I can better other yields been grown under the cobs by other growers.

I used about 15 lights in my last journal, none of them from Budmaster. Plus I have never been asked ever to test an led by anybody. My journals are always clear with pictures of the lights. Like my C'99 journal. Pics of lights everywhere. It's the way I am, the way I do my journals. Thorough commitment and drive to succeed with growing!

It's the extraction though! I'll sacrifice £10,000 a year for no heat and silent extraction. I'll still have plenty, but fuck going back to growing with 3500w. It sounded like a factory! Really made me ill.

Your journal is trying to sell people on a shit product, as is clear by you making the shit light the thread title of your grow journal. I'm not talking shit on your grow skills or your plants or anything. I am talking shit on your over priced inefficient light that is all.

Well, to be fair I talked shit on your auto's but that's because no one should grow hemp. That's still not directed at your skills, just your choice in strains. Auto's are bad for cannabis, growing autos for sale is a sure way to get angry customers as the quality can very so much from plant to plant.

You didn't put the strain name, or whatever other information about your grow in the title like your medium, no, you chose to highlight a shit light. To be honest that's why I didn't read your thread, if you put your strains even if autos I would have read it. Instead I seen someone advertising a shit light so I said my piece.

I don't like shit products, I don't like to see people get ripped off, this light is a rip off. Whether you feel ripped off or not doesn't matter, this is a public forum, new people come in here all the time. They should know there's other options, better options. I've said my piece. I'll even extend an olive branch, when your shit Chinese drivers burn out in 6 months PM me I'll send you in the right direction this time. I completely get not wanting to DIY, it's not for some people but there's plenty of good quality lights out there.

Please if you're in an illegal area , for your own sake, edit your post and take out the prices people are paying you. It's called self snitching, and while we may be arguing here, I don't want to see anyone get in trouble.

Their website links to Osram specs don't work and they take stock assembly line images off alibaba. That right there screams stay the fuck away to anyone who has dealt with knock off Chinese products in any field. Go to DHgate and look at bongs, you'll see the same style of stock images as are used on budmasters website.

Mr.Head said:

Your journal is trying to sell people on a shit product, as is clear by you making the shit light the thread title of your grow journal. I'm not talking shit on your grow skills or your plants or anything. I am talking shit on your over priced inefficient light that is all.

Well, to be fair I talked shit on your auto's but that's because no one should grow hemp. That's still not directed at your skills, just your choice in strains. Auto's are bad for cannabis, growing autos for sale is a sure way to get angry customers as the quality can very so much from plant to plant.

You didn't put the strain name, or whatever other information about your grow in the title like your medium, no, you chose to highlight a shit light. To be honest that's why I didn't read your thread, if you put your strains even if autos I would have read it. Instead I seen someone advertising a shit light so I said my piece.

I don't like shit products, I don't like to see people get ripped off, this light is a rip off. Whether you feel ripped off or not doesn't matter, this is a public forum, new people come in here all the time. They should know there's other options, better options. I've said my piece. I'll even extend an olive branch, when your shit Chinese drivers burn out in 6 months PM me I'll send you in the right direction this time. I completely get not wanting to DIY, it's not for some people but there's plenty of good quality lights out there.

Please if you're in an illegal area , for your own sake, edit your post and take out the prices people are paying you. It's called self snitching, and while we may be arguing here, I don't want to see anyone get in trouble.

Their website links to Osram specs don't work and they take stock assembly line images off alibaba. That right there screams stay the fuck away to anyone who has dealt with knock off Chinese products in any field. Go to DHgate and look at bongs, you'll see the same style of stock images as are used on budmasters website.

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Theres a difference between a shit product and an expensive product.

If this thread was called " The best lights in the world at the cheapest price possible" i could understand a full time wanker like yourself feeling the need to call someone out because they dont wanna build a diy panel or dont have the worlds most efficient system - but youre just a fucking twat with nothing better to do. Why dont you be real hero and spend your time answering newbs questions in the diy led section - cause youre clearly some kind of wannabe efficacy enforcer/bellend. Which lights you running then, bro? cause they better be 200 lm/w and you better of hand crafted them out of pixie dust for about $12. Im genuinely interested, they best be well over 2 umol/j

I have a budmaster panel that uses Osram sl80 diodes, its been on a year and has consistently pulled 1.4 - 1.5 gpw. Tell me theyre shit one more time and youre going on the ignore list.

You've made lots of assumptions about a company you know nothing about, and although, it seems, youve spent 5 mins googling Budmaster you unsurprisingly STILL know fuck all about them. You Sir, are an idiot.

Last chance to say something sensible before ending up on lukios ignore list x

Mr.Head said:

Your journal is trying to sell people on a shit product, as is clear by you making the shit light the thread title of your grow journal. I'm not talking shit on your grow skills or your plants or anything. I am talking shit on your over priced inefficient light that is all.

Well, to be fair I talked shit on your auto's but that's because no one should grow hemp. That's still not directed at your skills, just your choice in strains. Auto's are bad for cannabis, growing autos for sale is a sure way to get angry customers as the quality can very so much from plant to plant.

You didn't put the strain name, or whatever other information about your grow in the title like your medium, no, you chose to highlight a shit light. To be honest that's why I didn't read your thread, if you put your strains even if autos I would have read it. Instead I seen someone advertising a shit light so I said my piece.

I don't like shit products, I don't like to see people get ripped off, this light is a rip off. Whether you feel ripped off or not doesn't matter, this is a public forum, new people come in here all the time. They should know there's other options, better options. I've said my piece. I'll even extend an olive branch, when your shit Chinese drivers burn out in 6 months PM me I'll send you in the right direction this time. I completely get not wanting to DIY, it's not for some people but there's plenty of good quality lights out there.

Please if you're in an illegal area , for your own sake, edit your post and take out the prices people are paying you. It's called self snitching, and while we may be arguing here, I don't want to see anyone get in trouble.

Their website links to Osram specs don't work and they take stock assembly line images off alibaba. That right there screams stay the fuck away to anyone who has dealt with knock off Chinese products in any field. Go to DHgate and look at bongs, you'll see the same style of stock images as are used on budmasters website.

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Haha you're a fucking joke

First off Fevs never even said this was an "advisement" dipshit you would have know this if you read his other journals.

Who made you the LED police coming in your high horse thinking youre doing good for people who want to buy LEDS. Take you self entitled ass and go breathe underwater.

You are wrong on all aspects Mr dick head

714steadyeddie said:

Haha you're a fucking joke dick.

First off Fevs never even said this was an "advisement" dipshit you would have know this if you read his other journals.

Who made you the LED police coming in your high horse thinking youre doing good for people who want to buy LEDS. Take you self entitled ass and go breathe underwater.

You are wrong on all aspects Mr dick head

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Didn't say I was the LED police, i responded to a post where he was all like "People call these over priced but I paid for these with under a lb." then I looked at the price of the units. They are more than over priced.

I did pay for these with under 1lb. As I've explained to you by adding some basic maths sums!

I don't give a crap about talking about prices. I've already told the police I grow Cannabis about 2 years ago! The fact I grow cannabis and suffer with complex ptsd is on my police file. I got sick of living in fear of being raided, so I just told them instead to reduce anxiety. It worked! I never got that knock, plus if anybody looks into me, it's already on my file... I'm hiding nothing from anybody!

Maybe you are just resentful towards me that I get more £££ for auto's, than you do for photoperiod strains?

Clearly you hate leds and auto's and probably anything different to how you are growing yourself!

Your way or the high way ey...?

Don't forget your coat on the way out @Mr.Head

Fevs said:

I did pay for these with under 1lb. As I've explained to you by adding some basic maths sums!

I don't give a crap about talking about prices. I've already told the police I grow Cannabis about 2 years ago! The fact I grow cannabis and suffer with complex ptsd is on my police file. I got sick of living in fear of being raided, so I just told them instead to reduce anxiety. It worked! I never got that knock, plus if anybody looks into me, it's already on my file... I'm hiding nothing from anybody!

Maybe you are just resentful towards me that I get more £££ for auto's, than you do for photoperiod strains?

Clearly you hate leds and auto's and probably anything different to how you are growing yourself!

Your way or the high way ey...?

Don't forget your coat on the way out @Mr.Head

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I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble man. That's all. They might leave you alone for personal use and growing for yourself, but they also might change their tone if they think you are selling.

I run LED's sir, I don't hate LED's at all, I think there's a huge issue with poor quality LED's. I take issue with LED manufacturers not listing name of the brand of parts they use, no name assume it's chinese garbage. Also their websites links to Osrams spec. sheets don't work.

I've seen a lot of good people get took by Mars.

I grow with LED's and have been for over 2 years now. I have 0 against LED's, I have lots against poor quality products. I love LED's they have made it so I can grow without dimming an HPS so I don't blow breakers IMO, with a seat of my pants estimate, as I haven't followed the newest LED releases you should only need about 300 watts to cover a 3x3 of quality COBs.

I'm telling you, you guys are too sensitive, you're taking this as a personal attack because I don't like your light. Bro I hope you grow the dankest dank.

and Yes I fucking hate autos because they are what monsanto would do to Cannabis if they could. Make it uncloneable. Feminized Auto flowers are monsanto and co.'s wet dream for Cannabis. Then you factor in they are bred with hemp, which ruderalis is. They don't have consistent potency as clones will. Plus I got took for a lot of fucking money when i was starting out for absolutely garbage weed. I listened to retards like Arjan from GHS to get Autoflowers as a new grower as they are easy to grow. I spent about $150 on autoflowers that were outperformed in every single way by 1 $7 Pure AK seed from Female seeds. Auto's are bad, I grew a bunch from different breeders. I get people use them to fill space while vegging that's about the only use for autos indoors. I have grows, and many others have grows that prove 12/12 From Seed on photoperiod plants will produce quality yields without having hemp in the genetics. I also know I hate getting a bag of weed that you can tell potency difference between nugs. My buddy gets shit like this and it drives me nuts. You can't properly medicate with that type of cannabis.

I don't get jealous people are successful sir, you obviously did the work, and I don't sell weed. If you can get what you got good.

I'm in the process of building new panels right now actually.

Anyway...

Time for an update on the plants. It's been 3 days only, but still, a good 3 days.

Barney's Farm Pineapple Express, on day 17 from seed, Under the Budmaster cobx-6, running on half power / 3 cobs at 150w.

3ft tent, 25 litre pots



Sweet Seeds Sweet Skunk Auto's x 3 on day 17

2 closest are two x moby dick xxl auto's from Dinafem, same led, also on half power. These are 3 days younger on day 14. Very pleased considering they were planted later to make up for the 1 skunk that didn't pop. Catching up fast, with a very fast strain in Sweet Skunk auto!



Trainwrecks day 16 under the budmaster cobx-9. I'm running this on 250w. Also pics of 3 tangie auto's on day 1 (brown pots). 2 haven't pop'd yet, hopefully later today. I'm away later today for 2 1/2 days on a short caravan holiday.

2 of the Trainwrecks are just looking terrible. I don't really need to cull them yet.. I'm going to wait and see. I'll give you good odds the best 2 tangie auto's will be in their big pots by next week. I'm still watering the soil when I do the others to keep it balanced.

I was chatting to a guy in the hydro shop about bio bizz all mix (ec 2.4), he said something very interesting. If your seed germinates in part of the soil, which has a high food content in the direct area it is, it may burn, Where as some germinate in soil where the food isn't, so they thrive. Interesting point I thought. Anyway, that is my theory for 2 of these being complete and utter horse shit!

I'm kind of learning from them too... Anyway...




Drobe. Cobx-2 (100w) It's either on or off with this. But that's ok as it's only 2 cobs anyway.

2 x Moby Dick XXL auto's on day 12. Still got no clip on fan, no extraction in here. I'm such a lazy bastard!



75cm (2.5ftx2.5ft) veg tent for Brothers Grimm C99 elite clone. 70 litres of coco hydro 60-40.

Budmaster xg-2 (90w)

Btw this led is discontinued at Budmaster. Anyway, the core of the people watching know I'm f*ck all to do with Budmaster. Just making the point that why the hell would I have discontinued leds in my journal, if it was an advert? I actually really like the xg range. 3w epistar leds. Very plant friendly! Very cheap to run and very quiet!

So here is what I'm excited about...

Blimburn Seeds Cindy x 5 (photoperiod fems)

All 5 in 25 litre pots. All 5 have plant supports fully set up.

Fresh all mix too, so they won't need feeding for ages. Gave them a nice plain water feed to bind them.

The 4 that were in air pots had visible roots at the edges, so I expect them to explode after being transplanted to square pots.

Budmaster cobx-9, 250w, each plant has a cob above her.