CalMag needed for me?

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by Symphonyofdreams, Dec 27, 2016.

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    Symphonyofdreams

    Symphonyofdreams Member

    I'm on well water (175PPM) after going through a potassium water softener. I'm running Gh's 3 part base in hydro with rock wool medium. . I've heard varying opinions on wether i should be adding a cal mag product in. I really don't know how much calmag is making it through my softener and I'm not sure if there's enough calmag in water and flora serries combined? I'm kinda worried i could be getting too much with the addition of calimagic as this could lock out PK and other minerals. What do you guys think?
     
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    Alienwidow

    Alienwidow Well-Known Member

    Plants really love magnesium and calcium. I usually run calmag from week three at a small dose, to about three weeks before chop, and then just run mag without the cal.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    You really shouldn't use softened water as it replaces calcium with sodium.

    Cal-mag elixirs are bullshit.
     
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    Symphonyofdreams

    Symphonyofdreams Member

    This one adds Potassium instead of sodium. What do you mean by cal-mag elixirs are bullshit? Meaning not needed with Base Nutrients ?
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Base nutes meant for hydroponics are balanced for near 0ppm water.
     
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    budman111

    budman111 Well-Known Member

    I ran Blurple LED a few years back and got a chronic Calcium deficiency after a few weeks without calcium supplemented in flower.
     
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    Symphonyofdreams

    Symphonyofdreams Member

    Here's what I don't get... cal or mag is the first ingredient in flora micro and bloom. these are ran throughout the whole grow. So assuming proper ppms are hit, cal mag should be hit. If not it's more of an reflection on the base nutrients quality not the need for a calmag supplement. Calmag supplements seem very redundant at best and very dangerous at worse locking out pk and other nutrients
     
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    Alienwidow

    Alienwidow Well-Known Member

    If you choose to not run calmag just make sure you know what the symptoms of calcium, and magnesium deficiancy look like. I hang out in the plant problems section a lot and i see it all the time. If i dont run a supplement i always get mag def.
     
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    rickyrozayyy

    rickyrozayyy Well-Known Member

    Go to the store and buy a big ass bag of Epson salt... there's your mag for way cheaper than that mixed bs. I do anywhere from a cup to 2 cups per 50 gal reservoir. 2 cups for the indica dominant and 1 to 1 1/2 for sativas
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    Exactly. The product Cal-mag+ is so redundant, you could theoretically grow with just cal-mag+ and a bloom booster. (with no base nutes). flora micro is basically calcium nitrate and iron edta. If you have a cal deficiency (extremely unlikely with those nutes), you can add more flora micro.

    Gradually I stopped using all 3 bottles for straight up calcium nitrate, iron dtpa, etc. Calcium nitrate is so cheap, I can't understand why people buy tonics where it's the main ingredient. 50 pounds of yara cal-nit is about 35 bucks. That's how dumb cal-mag is.
     

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