Cheese

And im not saying the HTCC is legit, infact it's pretty fucking sloppy judging. but i still have yet to see a strain win best indica if it is total shit.

because BB, GH, cheese is not shit. not real cheese...but for sure not shit.

i have smoked original cheese, i went blind,
i have grown and smoked GH cheese, and although it is a very nice strain, it is no comparison

king ewan said:

i have smoked original cheese, i went blind,
i have grown and smoked GH cheese, and although it is a very nice strain, it is no comparison

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That's it. All I'm saying is that they should shoot straighter and say things like they are.

I was looking through some DNA strains earlier, and they have used trainwreck in their genetics, but they don't call the resultant strain trainwreck. They have pride in their work.

GH and BB cashed in on a name, and they are now extending the bullshit even further.

When soma did sour diesel, he did a proper job, no half measures. NYC Diesel is still a hard strain to get hold of, even seeds.

GH and BB are just doing it as a joke... think they can get away with anything.

Chronic Connoisseur said:

And im not saying the HTCC is legit, infact it's pretty fucking sloppy judging. but i still have yet to see a strain win best indica if it is total shit.

because BB, GH, cheese is not shit. not real cheese...but for sure not shit.

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I agree with everything you've said... ok it's not shit, but there are better genetics out there even within GH stock.

If it was that good why not call it 'cheddar'? You think it would have won the HTCC then? The HTCC is full of hype, just like BB cheese.

skunkushybrid said:

I agree with everything you've said... ok it's not shit, but there are better genetics out there even within GH stock.

If it was that good why not call it 'cheddar'? You think it would have won the HTCC then? The HTCC is full of hype, just like BB cheese.

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Yeah, i mean i pretty much agree with everything you said. i didnt think GH needed to be ashamed of cheese, or TW for that matter. different names wouldnt really matter much, because i usually know a clone only type of plant, and if i see seeds saying that it is infact that type of strain, i know that it is a reversed plant with many of the same genes as the clone only plant. and i usually only smoke my own weed enough for me to care.

Trainwreck on the other hand, i think is VERY much like the clone plant. i mean, the deformation of the buds..the taste..smell..pretty much all spot on, the only difference i really noticed was a very very very small change in the taste. and the clone plant seemed to hit me a little harder after just the first blunt hit.

Well BB's cheese is very much like the original too. It's just not as strong in high. The taste and smell are there.

I suppose BB felt that he'd done enough. I don't think he tried hard enough, or waited around to fully complete the mission.

The same can be said for GH now, to bring out a strain called trainwreck should be a wonder for the smoking community. Instead they cut corners and offer cheap genetics.

Now people will be walking around believing they've actually grown and smoked trainwreck. It is so similar in taste that the original will be forgotten, and indeed lose value.

They should change the name.

skunkushybrid said:

Well BB's cheese is very much like the original too. It's just not as strong in high. The taste and smell are there.

I suppose BB felt that he'd done enough. I don't think he tried hard enough, or waited around to fully complete the mission.

The same can be said for GH now, to bring out a strain called trainwreck should be a wonder for the smoking community. Instead they cut corners and offer cheap genetics.

Now people will be walking around believing they've actually grown and smoked trainwreck. It is so similar in taste that the original will be forgotten, and indeed lose value.

They should change the name.

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i dont think so. people in cali love mixing female trains with male purple urkels.

and for that, i've only seen seeds from clones of TW. i've never really even seen a seed company with purpwreck. only other farmers seeds.

i'll never forget original TW.

Chronic Connoisseur said:

i dont think so. people in cali love mixing female trains with male purple urkels.

and for that, i've only seen seeds from clones of TW. i've never really even seen a seed company with purpwreck. only other farmers seeds.

i'll never forget original TW.

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Urkel is one of California's most sought after strain. It demands the highest price in any circle. It was crossed with the Train Wreck (T4) male. This improved the vigour of the Urkel, a notorious slow grower. The Purple Wreck has large Train Wreck buds with purple hues. The sweet fruity aroma of the Urkel dominates the cross. The Purple Wreck is short, early flowering and produces dense nugs.

• Purple Urkel x Train Wreck (T4)
• 60% Indica : 40% Sativa
• Flowering Time: 8-9 weeks
• Yield: 400-500g/m2


by a company called reserva privada... a sister company of DNA.


I feel the same way about original cheese. I shall never forget it either.

skunkushybrid said:

Urkel is one of California's most sought after strain. It demands the highest price in any circle. It was crossed with the Train Wreck (T4) male. This improved the vigour of the Urkel, a notorious slow grower. The Purple Wreck has large Train Wreck buds with purple hues. The sweet fruity aroma of the Urkel dominates the cross. The Purple Wreck is short, early flowering and produces dense nugs.

• Purple Urkel x Train Wreck (T4)
• 60% Indica : 40% Sativa
• Flowering Time: 8-9 weeks
• Yield: 400-500g/m2


by a company called reserva privada... a sister company of DNA.


I feel the same way about original cheese. I shall never forget it either.

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Yeah, i'll for sure look for the original cheese when i go to UK this may. if it's better than GH cheese, than it would be insane not to.

So it's a T4. it's not made from the clone trainwreck right?

nevermind, that is a stupid question.

Chronic Connoisseur said:

So it's a T4. it's not made from the clone trainwreck right?

nevermind, that is a stupid question.

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I'm assuming the TW was used for yield and flowering time purposes? The flavour is of the Urkle.

skunkushybrid said:

I'm assuming the TW was used for yield and flowering time purposes? The flavour is of the Urkle.

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Most people do it because of how long it takes erkel to grow.. sounds like a good smoke.

Chronic Connoisseur said:

original trainwreck has taken the place and popularity of purple urkel in cali..

and if one joint lasted you three days, thats pretty light wieght my friend..the clone of TW is like 18% thc.. so go ahead and find some more bullshit to blow out of your ass.

and if the GH cheese has kush and skunk in its genes... it is NOT a shitty high.

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I'm not sure who the fuck you were talking to but I know for a fucking fact it wasn't me.

Sublime757 said:

I'm not sure who the fuck you were talking to but I know for a fucking fact it wasn't me.

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im just saying i lived in cali all my life, up until a year ago. i've smoked clone TW, and a joint would NEVER last me three days..i've smoked hazes that are wayy stronger than TW, and a joint of them still wouldnt last me three days.

so given that the joint lasted you three days, and you were trying to stay high for most part of the day(i would guess considering you said you smoke a lot.) you are either A.) a liar B.) a light weight or C.) both

because a joint should not last you three days...

and for you to say it is BULLSHIT

Hit and hold it. And don't call me a fucking liar. Who the fuck are you anyway? Exactly. You lived in Cali all your life huh? Well join the fucking club! As you can see, a lot of us are from Cali. It was only until a few years ago that I moved.

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Hit and hold it. And don't call me a fucking liar. Who the fuck are you anyway? Exactly. You lived in Cali all your life huh? Well join the fucking club! As you can see, a lot of us are from Cali. It was only until a few years ago that I moved.

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I didnt mean anything hostile by it. im just going by the facts that i know. but for a person to be smoking on 1 joint for three days and staying high for most of it, sounds like bullshit to me is all.

unless you have a low tolerence..

so chill, take a hit, and dont say stupid things on a forum if you dont want other people to comment on them.

Chronic Connoisseur said:

and if one joint lasted you three days, thats pretty light wieght my friend..the clone of TW is like 18% thc.. so go ahead and find some more bullshit to blow out of your ass.

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Sounded pretty fucking hostile to me. And I'll say whatever the fuck I want. I've been growing and smoking for a large part of my life. And when you have to conserve what little smoke you have, you figure out how to get the most out it.

Sublime757 said:

Sounded pretty fucking hostile to me. And I'll say whatever the fuck I want. I've been growing and smoking for a large part of my life. And when you have to conserve what little smoke you have, you figure out how to get the most out it.

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K, i guess that makes sense. you made it sound like a big deal that a joint lasted you three days. when really it wasnt.

so then could a joint of GH trainwreck last you three days? or was it really pointless for you to even chime in with the whole thing about the three day joint?

just wondering, since that was the whole point of the conversation and all.

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K, i guess that makes sense. you made it sound like a big deal that a joint lasted you three days. when really it wasnt.

so then could a joint of GH trainwreck last you three days? or was it really pointless for you to even chime in with the whole thing about the three day joint?

just wondering, since that was the whole point of the conversation and all.

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Shhh.. I love you.

I don't understand how GH have made cheese from skunk x kush.

skunk kush is old school bud, and a strain created by sensi seeds... maybe i should read up on GH's version.

have GH put in the cheese genes too? That would be fairly easy to do as skunk kush is very similar to stinky cheese anyway, at least strength of flavour... it seems to hit the whole of the mouth in one go... the kinda taste that lets you know you're smoking dank. Memories of being a school boy and a time when one solid joint could last you the day, maybe even two or three.

I can see why they used skunk kush...

Still though they could have had the decency to think of a new name.


Thing is though too, with breeding a good strain is that it can take years. You could make a mistake, then have to go back again. It just all seems very slapdash to me, and I think they've tried to avoid any awkward questions by keeping the price at a reasonable level.

Also, if I created a new strain from a clone-only mom... put my heart and sole into creating it. I wouldn't want to spoil it all by trying to cash in on the name of one of the parents. The strain would have to have a new name.

GH and BB both have taken the easier option just to generate cash... and I just know they've done a sloppy job. It's obvious, and they don't care... arrogant dutch bastards just think we're all stupid. Forgive the racism.