Cherry Pie and Ken's GDP x Coco & LED

PSUAGRO.

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I forgot to tell you puff that Robert Becker from Apache tech got back to me.......They will NOT be releasing that 240watt all white panel any time in the near future due to "low demand" and it doesn't perform to their "standards". Brought up that they have been testing high quality 3w-5w-7w(?) leds and also won't be using them cause of their inefficiency and low ppf per watt compared to 1 watters( we all know that 1w 350ma driven diodes are the most efficient without question). He says that his clients want to replace HID with a VERY energy efficient/monthly cost cutting solution NOT replace high watt bulbs with high watt led panels! I think he has a point! and also agreed that the 3 and 5w leds will get very efficient soon, but not presently.

Oh and put out a 20% off coupon code if anyone wants it ...type in: ROSEBUD at check out

Sorry for the off topic..........back to your beautiful grow!

Edit: says the 3:2 RW panel is the best for our "hobby" and put out the most par/umol per watt........like the one you have:)..... damn I want your panel!
 

puffenuff

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The C02 should make a world of difference. They look happy regardless!
Thanks, man. I sure hope to get at least a small boost of CO2 out of this bag.

Very nice ^^^^and healthy!!............how much you pay for the rebranded compost bag:P? the minimal PPM increase is gonna shock you, at least you can add it to your cocco medium next round . Prove me wrong puff!!!
Thanks brother! The bag ran me about $30, supposedly it will last til October. We'll see how it works. Not trying to prove anyone right or wrong, just hoping to add more Co2 without buying a tank or a bunch of other stuff to make my own. Thought if it works, cool it will be a quick easy addition. Keeping my fingers crossed it works.

I forgot to tell you puff that Robert Becker from Apache tech got back to me.......They will NOT be releasing that 240watt all white panel any time in the near future due to "low demand" and it doesn't perform to their "standards". Brought up that they have been testing high quality 3w-5w-7w(?) leds and also won't be using them cause of their inefficiency and low ppf per watt compared to 1 watters( we all know that 1w 350ma driven diodes are the most efficient without question). He says that his clients want to replace HID with a VERY energy efficient/monthly cost cutting solution NOT replace high watt bulbs with high watt led panels! I think he has a point! and also agreed that the 3 and 5w leds will get very efficient soon, but not presently.

Oh and put out a 20% off coupon code if anyone wants it ...type in: ROSEBUD at check out

Sorry for the off topic..........back to your beautiful grow!

Edit: says the 3:2 RW panel is the best for our "hobby" and put out the most par/umol per watt........like the one you have:)..... damn I want your panel!
Cool, good to hear they got back to you. I talked to Robert a few times too, he was really helpful. everyone I've ever talked to from there, the president included always was super helpful in answering any questions I had. I know they have really high standards there for their products so that's great to hear that they won't just come out with any new light unless it is top notch. Yeah, they pretty much told me the same thing about the 3w-7w testing, happy to know they are at least experimenting with new designs. I love that they are still pushing the efficiency boundaries, can't wait to see when they finally master the higher wattage diodes.

Thanks for the promo code. I may have to take advantage of that soon!

No worries about off topic talk, you know I love to talk about lights so I welcome it anytime. I really think their 3:2 WR combo is their best spectrum, although, i hear the all white is pretty good for vegging. I wouldn't mind getting an all white for a veg tent and get the lens switched over from the 14 degree to the 50degree. It would probably veg out of a 3x3 beautifully.

Looking Awsome As Usual Brother PuffDaddy. :clap:
Thanks Big Dawg! Appreciate the kind words. I'm really loving yours as well, especially that cup!
 

puffenuff

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Well after a weekend of the co2 bag and the ppm readings haven't budged. What a waste of $30. Started off with it hanging from the top of the tent, nothing. Lowered it to right over canopy, nothing. Moved it to the floor with the release patch directly over the co2 meter, and nothing. I checked the bag for holes and didn't find any. Not sure if there's something I was supposed to do? Everything says just to let it work but I haven't seen any evidence that it is working. Anyone ever use one of these co2 bags with good results? So far looking like psuagro was right. I feel taken advantage of. Making a trip to the hydro store this week to tell them about their shitty product.
 

HiloReign

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Well after a weekend of the co2 bag and the ppm readings haven't budged. What a waste of $30. Started off with it hanging from the top of the tent, nothing. Lowered it to right over canopy, nothing. Moved it to the floor with the release patch directly over the co2 meter, and nothing. I checked the bag for holes and didn't find any. Not sure if there's something I was supposed to do? Everything says just to let it work but I haven't seen any evidence that it is working. Anyone ever use one of these co2 bags with good results? So far looking like psuagro was right. I feel taken advantage of. Making a trip to the hydro store this week to tell them about their shitty product.
Sounds like you've been had, friend. Sorry to hear about more bullshit from the hydro store...
 

The Dawg

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Thank You Brother Puff.Im Very Proud Of My Cup Entry.She Is So Lovely And Sweet I Cant Even Talk Dirty To Her :eyesmoke:
 

gargantuanganja

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That sucks, puff. I'm waiting to refill my co2 today. I just noticed it was empty, so I don't know how long they've been without :( At least a week or so. It makes a huge difference, imo.
 

puffenuff

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Sounds like you've been had, friend. Sorry to hear about more bullshit from the hydro store...
Thanks HR. I emailed the company just to see if there was any instructions I don't have and just to see how/if they respond. Then I'll let the hydro shop know what's up

Thank You Brother Puff.Im Very Proud Of My Cup Entry.She Is So Lovely And Sweet I Cant Even Talk Dirty To Her :eyesmoke:
And here I thought Dirty was the only language the Dawg can speak. She sure is lovely so I don't blame you for being sweet on her.

That sucks, puff. I'm waiting to refill my co2 today. I just noticed it was empty, so I don't know how long they've been without :( At least a week or so. It makes a huge difference, imo.
I would like to take advantage of that huge difference. what size tank do you have? I don't even know how much co2 costs now, it's been a long time since my paintball days. what size tank would you use for a 3x3?
 

puffenuff

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Day 12 of 12/12.

Things are coming along nicely. I'm over the fact that the yield from the GSC/KGDP won't be much. There's always next time/different strains better suited for going for max yield anyway. I didn't stick with the LST much after the first week of 12/12 so the tops on the Cherry Pie have stretched up some. Check them out below.

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And here's a nug of one of my all-time favorite strains: Lamb's Bread. Great smell and taste. The smoke is incredibly soft and the high is a pleasant and happy one, great for anxiety and stress relief. Doesn't make you want to go to sleep. Good for day time use. An excellent Sativa.
Lamb's Bread Yum.jpg<<<<<Even Michael Jordan likes it.

Thanks for stopping in. Peace until next time. Stay UP!
 

gargantuanganja

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I would like to take advantage of that huge difference. what size tank do you have? I don't even know how much co2 costs now, it's been a long time since my paintball days. what size tank would you use for a 3x3?
I'm pretty sure they come in a standard 20lb tank. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're 20lbs. You use the same size tank no matter the room size, you just adjust the output on the regulator accordingly. My tank has been running 24/7 on .5psi because my room is no longer sealed and it's only been refilled once.
http://www.hydrofarm.com/resources/co2calc.php
I got the tank for $40 on craigslist and the reg was ~$75 on ebay.

Day 12 of 12/12.
here's a nug of one of my all-time favorite strains: Lamb's Bread. Great smell and taste. The smoke is incredibly soft and the high is a pleasant and happy one, great for anxiety and stress relief. Doesn't make you want to go to sleep. Good for day time use. An excellent Sativa.
View attachment 2543906<<<<<Even Michael Jordan likes it.
You have good taste. I had some Lamb's Breath/Bread recently and I'd put it up there with my all time faves, Kali Mist and Super Lemon Haze. Great strain.
 

Scotch089

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You have good taste. I had some Lamb's Breath/Bread recently and I'd put it up there with my all time faves, Kali Mist and Super Lemon Haze. Great strain.
YES!!! don't even know how KM came up, but I have always wanted to snag up some seeds in an order, maybe my next. And Im currently running SLH...

Stinky...stinky little bitch..
 

puffenuff

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Day 15 of 12/12.

So I just spent a whole hour making a video and editing it, to find out that I can't upload it. thought i'd take the journal to the 21st century but that didn't happen. It said the file size was too large, even though I compressed the shit out of it. And I didn't feel like hosting it through another site at the moment. Maybe if I can't figure it out I will because it was a bad ass video if you don't mind me saying. Actually, that's just pride speaking, it probably blows but hey, it was my first time using the video editing software on my computer. it'll only get better from here.

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The CO2 levels have finally started to raise. Now they are sitting around 800-1000 PPM. Not as high as I'd like to see them, but better than where it was at before.

I guess that's all for now. Update again in a few days or when I can figure out the video situation. Peace and TGIF.
 

tags420

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Looking really nice man, they are starting to fill some space. Glad to see the co2 finally go up a little.

I just took a video of my room this morning too. I will have a thread soon. I was going to use youtube probably for the vids. But I have no experience with them yet, just my first idea.

I have a little Apache spoiler... they will have a big unit ready for the max yield show in denver in like 2 weeks. It is supposed to putout 2000+umols @24" and cover 4x4. I couldn't get exact numbers out of him but sounds like about 500w. They have a few new things for this year.
 

puffenuff

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Looking really nice man, they are starting to fill some space. Glad to see the co2 finally go up a little.

I just took a video of my room this morning too. I will have a thread soon. I was going to use youtube probably for the vids. But I have no experience with them yet, just my first idea.

I have a little Apache spoiler... they will have a big unit ready for the max yield show in denver in like 2 weeks. It is supposed to putout 2000+umols @24" and cover 4x4. I couldn't get exact numbers out of him but sounds like about 500w. They have a few new things for this year.
Thanks, Tags! Yeah the flowering is starting to come along quite nicely now.

Please shoot me a link to your thread when you get it up. You know I'll be the first one subbed up. I was thinking about making a new youtube account for the vids too so maybe I'll go that route.

Man, i hope they take some videos of the max yield convention out in Denver. I want to see this beast! Really looking forward to seeing something new from Apache Tech. I was ready to pull the trigger on another AT120WR (3:2) but the ROSEBUD promo code wasn't working and I didn't have time to give them a call to get a new code. But if something new is on the horizon, maybe it's best I hold off for a few months and see if anything is on the way in the near future. I still have my other lights to run along side the apache, but damn, i want another bad. I wonder if that big unit will be overkill for my 3x3????
 

PSUAGRO.

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Looking good puff^^ ...........wtf the code doesn't work???? strange unless it was a one time use/ shouldn't have posted it then:P Just hit up Apache and ask for one, and tell him the code doesn't work!!!

Should put the CO2 bag up high!!! it's heavier than air it won't do anything on the ground! lol sorry for all the !!!!!!!!!!! I'm stressed
 

tags420

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I will be running the booth at the the max yield show so don't worry I'll have plenty pics and vids. Andre is on some business and asked me to go for him. I am super exited to go and see everything. Plus a bunch of other companies will be there to scope out see what is new.

I was going to say something about the rosebud code when you guys first brought it up. I think it was only for a month so it is over now. If anyone needs a deal I can get a better one than anyone other than A himself...just shoot me a pm.
 

puffenuff

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Looking good puff^^ ...........wtf the code doesn't work???? strange unless it was a one time use/ shouldn't have posted it then:P Just hit up Apache and ask for one, and tell him the code doesn't work!!!

Should put the CO2 bag up high!!! it's heavier than air it won't do anything on the ground! lol sorry for all the !!!!!!!!!!! I'm stressed
Thank you Sir! Sorry to hear about the stress, when you are feeling that way, feel free to take a joint to the face and come on over and put as many !!!!!!! up in here as you want. it's all groovy my friend. I had the CO2 bag hanging up from the top of the tent at first and I wasn't getting any increase in the ppm readings at ground level. might not have been putting out enough for it to sink that low? I don't know...but now it's at least increased a bit and the release patch is sitting right about bottom third of the plants, should probably be higher, maybe I'll rig it up to some rope ratchets I have laying around. give me a few days on that one to see what I can do. appreciate the suggestion.

I will be running the booth at the the max yield show so don't worry I'll have plenty pics and vids. Andre is on some business and asked me to go for him. I am super exited to go and see everything. Plus a bunch of other companies will be there to scope out see what is new.

I was going to say something about the rosebud code when you guys first brought it up. I think it was only for a month so it is over now. If anyone needs a deal I can get a better one than anyone other than A himself...just shoot me a pm.
Sweet man. Sounds like it will be a good time. Have fun and be safe out there. Checked out your new journal earlier today, and I'll say it again, i'm really looking forward to watching it develop.

And now it's update time:

Day 19 of 12/12

"Shit looks good"

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Amaximus

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Making my rounds through all the new grows I've been missing... Looking good, puff! -Subbed.

That a new tent?
 
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