Chris Kyle - American Sniper

WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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NoDrama said:
You can't have unhindered growth on a planet with limited resources.There must be cullings. Nature used to do that for us before we got so smart and found ways to neutralize her efforts.

Aggression is what will save the human race.
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That's only if you believe the tripe about limited resources. We have poor resource management because of greed. There are more than enough resources to support the worlds population, in multiples., but greed prevents it.
 
Hazydat620

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JimmyIndica said:
I say close the borders!!!!!!!!!!! and round up everyone that aint us citizen with the military I might add and get them the f--k out. This would fix a lot of problems. I say we have military secure borders and military work all airport security how bout that? 1st thing republican president is gonna do come 2016. They already control house and senate so change is comin 2016 !!
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NoDrama

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WeedFreak78 said:
That's only if you believe the tripe about limited resources. We have poor resource management because of greed. There are more than enough resources to support the worlds population, in multiples., but greed prevents it.
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What unlimited resources are you talking about? You can't live on sunshine alone.
 
JimmyIndica

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Hazydat620 said:
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Shits funny! I want borders shut down to protect us! I want the military to secure the anywhere there is access to this country! to protect this country! Is that facist? Actually this is about the killing machine! Chris Kyle! Didn't he say the only thing he regret was not " killing more of those savages over there" what was it like 150 or so savages? Let me guess! Your one of Bucks goons!
 
Hazydat620

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JimmyIndica said:
Shits funny! I want borders shut down to protect us! I want the military to secure the anywhere there is access to this country! to protect this country! Is that facist? Actually this is about the killing machine! Chris Kyle! Didn't he say the only thing he regret was not " killing more of those savages over there" what was it like 150 or so savages?
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I'm sure thats exactly what Hitler told the German people, it was all to "protect" them from the undesirables and stop it before it happens.
 
OddBall1st

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So now, Kyle is recommended for the MOH. That`s a process that must go up the chain but it is the top of the chain making the recommendation,...very strange.

Chris was a man amongst men in every way, badass to the bone, but doing his job and very well at that, is not the kind actions that merit the MOH.
 
Mindmelted

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OddBall1st said:
So now, Kyle is recommended for the MOH. That`s a process that must go up the chain but it is the top of the chain making the recommendation,...very strange.

Chris was a man amongst men in every way, badass to the bone, but doing his job and very well at that, is not the kind actions that merit the MOH.
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I don't think they will give it to him.
 
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NoDrama

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OddBall1st said:
So now, Kyle is recommended for the MOH. That`s a process that must go up the chain but it is the top of the chain making the recommendation,...very strange.

Chris was a man amongst men in every way, badass to the bone, but doing his job and very well at that, is not the kind actions that merit the MOH.
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The military should not give awards to people who are only doing their job. You get a medal of Honor for going above and beyond your position in a way that subjects you to extreme probability of death while saving the lives of many others.

a Sniper shooting someone else from so far away that no one can even tell the direction the fire came from would not qualify. If Chris had personally rescued people from a Burning Tank, while receiving life threatening injuries in order to complete that act of valor would also not qualify for the MoH in my opinion, maybe a bronze star. If he did it while a battalion of other tanks was shooting at him and still prevailed, maybe a silver star. If he did all of that AND then shot back destroying countless enemies which enabled the battle to be won, then he might qualify.

Chris Kyle did none of those things, for the most part he sat in relative safety far removed from the chances of personal injury while he killed people who had no idea it was coming. Doing your job well is rewarded with promotion, not medals. You have to go above and beyond your job description to get any kind of medal.
 
londonfog

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NoDrama said:
The military should not give awards to people who are only doing their job. You get a medal of Honor for going above and beyond your position in a way that subjects you to extreme probability of death while saving the lives of many others.

a Sniper shooting someone else from so far away that no one can even tell the direction the fire came from would not qualify. If Chris had personally rescued people from a Burning Tank, while receiving life threatening injuries in order to complete that act of valor would also not qualify for the MoH in my opinion, maybe a bronze star. If he did it while a battalion of other tanks was shooting at him and still prevailed, maybe a silver star. If he did all of that AND then shot back destroying countless enemies which enabled the battle to be won, then he might qualify.

Chris Kyle did none of those things, for the most part he sat in relative safety far removed from the chances of personal injury while he killed people who had no idea it was coming. Doing your job well is rewarded with promotion, not medals. You have to go above and beyond your job description to get any kind of medal.
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Damn Nodrama you are really on a roll today. Did you switch medications or something. Me likey
 
JimmyIndica

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Those holes he made with 50cal ! Damn Savages! Those headshots ! Man! He saved a lot of American lives with that rifle! Ask those he save!If he is a hero! They say 150 I wish it was 300!
 
whitebb2727

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NoDrama said:
The military should not give awards to people who are only doing their job. You get a medal of Honor for going above and beyond your position in a way that subjects you to extreme probability of death while saving the lives of many others.

a Sniper shooting someone else from so far away that no one can even tell the direction the fire came from would not qualify. If Chris had personally rescued people from a Burning Tank, while receiving life threatening injuries in order to complete that act of valor would also not qualify for the MoH in my opinion, maybe a bronze star. If he did it while a battalion of other tanks was shooting at him and still prevailed, maybe a silver star. If he did all of that AND then shot back destroying countless enemies which enabled the battle to be won, then he might qualify.

Chris Kyle did none of those things, for the most part he sat in relative safety far removed from the chances of personal injury while he killed people who had no idea it was coming. Doing your job well is rewarded with promotion, not medals. You have to go above and beyond your job description to get any kind of medal.
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I'm not saying he deserves the moh. He did put down his sniper rifle and kick doors in
 
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NoDrama

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whitebb2727 said:
I'm not saying he deserves the moh. He did put down his sniper rifle and kick doors in
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SEALs do it all.

Medal of Honor recipients receive the following privileges and special benefits:


  • A Special Medal of Honor pension of $1,259 per month above and beyond any military pensions or other benefits for which they may be eligible.
  • Special entitlements to Space “A” air transportation.
  • Enlisted recipients are entitled to a supplemental uniform allowance.
  • Commissary and exchange privileges (includes eligible dependents).
  • Admission to the United States military academies for qualified children of recipients – without nomination and quota requirements.
  • 10 percent increase in retired pay.
  • Medal of Honor Flag.
  • Allowed to wear the uniform at anytime as long as the standard restrictions are observed.
  • Many states offer Medal of Honor automobile license plates.
  • Interment at Arlington National Cemetery if not otherwise eligible.

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2014/04/what-do-medal-of-honor-awardees-get/#ixzz3T9ukV5lA

You can't give this medal out to just everyone who does their job well.
 
Doer

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WeedFreak78 said:
That's only if you believe the tripe about limited resources. We have poor resource management because of greed. There are more than enough resources to support the worlds population, in multiples., but greed prevents it.
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Unfortunately this is true. But, it is like saying there is plenty of Peace on the Moon, but for us, Space prevents it.

We can conquer Space much more easily than Greed. In fact, with Space we have some small progress, with Greed absolutely none.
 
Doer

Doer

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NoDrama said:
The military should not give awards to people who are only doing their job. You get a medal of Honor for going above and beyond your position in a way that subjects you to extreme probability of death while saving the lives of many others.

a Sniper shooting someone else from so far away that no one can even tell the direction the fire came from would not qualify. If Chris had personally rescued people from a Burning Tank, while receiving life threatening injuries in order to complete that act of valor would also not qualify for the MoH in my opinion, maybe a bronze star. If he did it while a battalion of other tanks was shooting at him and still prevailed, maybe a silver star. If he did all of that AND then shot back destroying countless enemies which enabled the battle to be won, then he might qualify.

Chris Kyle did none of those things, for the most part he sat in relative safety far removed from the chances of personal injury while he killed people who had no idea it was coming. Doing your job well is rewarded with promotion, not medals. You have to go above and beyond your job description to get any kind of medal.
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You have no idea how dangerous sniping is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/03/international/middleeast/03iraq.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Aug. 2, 2005 - Six Marine snipers moving on foot near a western Iraqi city were killed in an afternoon ambush, American commanders said Tuesday.

They don't talk about this very much, obviously, but it is a very dangerous job. And another sniper knows how to nail you. But, most get ambushed.

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/SIA_RooftopExecution.asp

For the first time since the June 2004 killings, details have come to light on how the four-man sniper team attached to Echo Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, was attacked in broad daylight by killers who got close enough to shoot them at point-blank range.

A copy of an investigation conducted by Naval Criminal Investigative Service, obtained by Marine Corps Times, also revealed that the Corps believes it knows who the Iraqi killers were, but let at least one of them slip away.

The four dead are: Cpl. Tommy Lynn Parker Jr., 21, of Cleburne, Ark.; Lance Cpl. Deshon Otey, 24, of Hardin, Ky.; Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez, 22, of Whitfield, Ga.; and Lance Cpl. Pedro Contreras, 27, of Harris, Texas.
 
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