Clinton v Trump 2020

tampee

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there was literally an espionage campaign against her from a hostile foreign power which her opponent not only aided and abetted, but also colluded with.

are you honestly fucking retarded?
There was literally a propaganda campaign against Trump by the Saudi Arabian (a hostile foreign power who is responsible for 9/11) funded mainstream media.
 

TacoMac

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There was literally a propaganda campaign against Trump by the Saudi Arabian (a hostile foreign power who is responsible for 9/11) funded mainstream media.
Wow.

You know, I've always thought you were just some sort of really half-assed, fail troll...but you really are just a complete and total idiot, aren't you?

Saudi Arabia is pretty much the ONLY Muslim nation that Trump didn't try to ban. Know why? Because Trump does business with them and has for years.

That is why he's getting into hot water over it. It is illegal for the President to receive any money from a foreign power. Trump has taken money from Saudi Arabia. What's more, after taking that money, Trump has been doing pretty much everything but blowing the leaders of Saudi Arabia. He's been praising them, backing them, and patting them on the back. People (thinking people that is, which of course excludes you) see this and call it what it is: corruption.

THAT is why he is in hot water over it.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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i'd vote for her again but our bench is way too deep for her to get the nod again.

kamala harris, tammy duckworth, cory booker, chris murphy, john hickenlooper, and even a few not-very-well-known names too, like gavin newsom, ted lieu, julian castro, xavier becerra, and more.
Hickenlooper? LOL! He owns a brewery and is recriminalizing pot in Colorado which is totally against what the citizens voted for in changing the state constitution to legalize.
 

srh88

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Gov Hickenlooper-D in Colorado is doing more to UN-legalize pot in Colorado than Sessions is. This is totally against the MMJ Colorado Constitutional amendment. It is a states rights issue but Hickenlooper owns a brewery.
maybe if i lived in colorado id be worried about hickenlooper?
 

ttystikk

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Who gives a shit about clinton, we have a sociopath with dementia in the oval office. Lets fix that before we talk about another election.
How do you propose to do that without talking about elections? 2018 is the earliest opportunity unless the rest of the Republicans in office come to their senses, something they don't seem inclined to do.
 

abandonconflict

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Who gives a shit about clinton, we have a sociopath with dementia in the oval office. Lets fix that before we talk about another election.
Even if he's successfully impeached, and assuming the impeachment leads to censure, which I believe is about as stiff a punishment I would predict, we would still be left with the GOP controlling all 3 branches of gov't with the DNC our only other option for replacing any office in any branch in the hopes of wresting control from them. It's easy to focus everything on the fascist carrot and forget how they're all scheming to impoverish the nation. It was the hopes that we would all have tunnel vision and vote against him that played a big part in his win, I wouldn't continue with that strategy.

Just about any member of that party could be exactly like him. It doesn't hurt to have a more comprehensive plan. I kinda agree with what you said about Clinton being irrelevant but my point is that we kind of need some relevant opposition.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Even if he's successfully impeached, and assuming the impeachment leads to censure, which I believe is about as stiff a punishment I would predict, we would still be left with the GOP controlling all 3 branches of gov't with the DNC our only other option for replacing any office in any branch in the hopes of wresting control from them. It's easy to focus everything on the fascist carrot and forget how they're all scheming to impoverish the nation. It was the hopes that we would all have tunnel vision and vote against him that played a big part in his win, I wouldn't continue with that strategy.

Just about any member of that party could be exactly like him. It doesn't hurt to have a more comprehensive plan. I kinda agree with what you said about Clinton being irrelevant but my point is that we kind of need some relevant opposition.
They're called Progressives.
 
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