Curious New Grower

Jack Kilgore · Jul 28, 2018

Hey Folks,

I have some questions about the nature of Autos and how difficult they are, yield, and a few introductory tips.

Im sure everyone has some good knowledge, but I really need this to work out well, so I have conducted a significant amount of scientific research, both in print and online. I know how they work, based on time rather than a photoperiod, and I am aware they will complete their entire cycle within 12 weeks, some quite faster, down to as quick as 6 weeks.

What I do not know is how does the yield compare with normal period-based plants? Moreover, for context, this summer's gros is my first official grow. Ive grown single plants before on several occasions, but this is the first time Ive had the resources to actually produce good quality medicine for myself and future patients. Moreover, I am curious how they will do in my locality.

Im in the CenCal region, right smack dab in the center of the state, and im growing outdoors in 5 gallon smartpots. Currently I have 4x Bubba Kush's. The temperature outside and on my patio regularly exceeds 100°. This is absolutely normal for us. But the temperature on the patio, surrounded by a wooden fence on 3 sodes. That fence gathers up that daytime heat, and doesnt really have a chance to cool off, meaning the temp on my patio easily tops 110° on a regular, frequent basis during summer. So thats something they will contend with just like the others, how do they handle the heat?

TacoMac · Jul 28, 2018

Yield on Autos is in my experience about half what a normal, feminized plant will produce.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

TacoMac said:
Yield on Autos is in my experience about half what a normal, feminized plant will produce.

Damn, you grow 600 gram photos? Cause there quite a few autos that have gooten up to 300 grams a plant. Not every because based on grower and situation, but autos can easily get 8-10 oz if the strain is genenticly a big yeilder. So i disagree with a general stayement of auto is about half of a photo. I hope you get to experience better autos.

TacoMac · Jul 28, 2018

MATTYMATT726 said:
Damn, you grow 600 gram photos? Cause there quite a few autos that have gooten up to 300 grams a plant. Not every because based on grower and situation, but autos can easily get 8-10 oz if the strain is genenticly a big yeilder. So i disagree with a general stayement of auto is about half of a photo. I hope you get to experience better autos.

blah,blah,blah,blah,bullshit,blah.

The so-called "big" autos are not the autos the OP is speaking off. You don't get 10 ounces off a plant in 6 fucking weeks, jackass.

Logan Burke · Jul 28, 2018

In DWC 5 gallon buckets, I pull very, very close to the yield I would get off of a regular photo...my auto's get at least 4ft tall, and generally just as big as a regular photo strain...maybe it's because I'm in DWC though, as it is known for producing monstrous plants.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

TacoMac said:
blah,blah,blah,blah,bullshit,blah.

The so-called "big" autos are not the autos the OP is speaking off. You don't get 10 ounces off a plant in 6 fucking weeks, jackass.

Im a jackass cause you can't grow autos? One of you guys every single day XD also ZERO autos are done in 6 weeks. 60 days minimum dumbass.

TacoMac · Jul 28, 2018

MATTYMATT726 said:
Im a jackass cause you can't grow autos?

No, you're a jackass because you didn't read the OP.

He's obviously talking about the regular autoflowers that only flower for 6 weeks before harvest. There's tons of them out there. They were engineered for that reason: small, quick grows for the private individual.

The so-called "big yield" auto flowers you run your yap about are not that way.

I posted about the plants he's talking about, not the bullshit you're running your yap about that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what he's asking.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

TacoMac said:
No, you're a jackass because you didn't read the OP.

He's obviously talking about the regular autoflowers that only flower for 6 weeks before harvest. There's tons of them out there. They were engineered for that reason: small, quick grows for the private individual.

The so-called "big yield" auto flowers you run your yap about are not that way.

I posted about the plants he's talking about, not the bullshit you're running your yap about that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what he's asking.

You are a clown. 1 week of seedling, 2-3 weeks of veg(being nice just to show you favour), 1 week of pre flower and 6 weeks of flower is? Thats right 10 weeks seed to harvest MINIMUM. DUMB FUCK just grew 2 autos whose days were listed at 70-80 and have up to 300 grams per plant yelid. Durrr do some actual research buddy. By the way, thses plants i chopped at 82 days i can find pictures in plenty auto threads where my branches were at 90° and breaking off because bids were that heavy. 82 days dickwad. Fast and weigh nice.

Logan Burke · Jul 28, 2018

Guys I don't think there is any concrete text book amount of time an auto can go, just a minimum and maximum. If you go for a certian time and pull a certian weight and you're happy with it then great. If not, then readjust whatever factors and try again. No point in arguing about two totally different experiences with two totally different set of circumstances. Of course the results will be different from one another.

TacoMac · Jul 28, 2018

Logan Burke said:
Guys I don't think there is any concrete text book amount of time an auto can go, just a minimum and maximum. If you go for a certian time and pull a certian weight and you're happy with it then great.

That sort of defeats the entire purpose of autos though, doesn't it?

Autos were engineered to be fast grows. In growing fast, you get less. It's that simple. Autos were engineered with the small, apartment grower in mind: they don't get overly large, it takes the guess work out of light scheduling and it is done in far less time than the standard plant. You get in, get your shit, and get out.

If you want big yields, then auto's are a waste of time because you obviously are not concerned with speed and you have plenty of space to work with without fear of "being discovered". So in that instance, why would you even bother with autos? It's a moot point in that scenario.

That's all there is to it.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

Logan Burke said:
Guys I don't think there is any concrete text book amount of time an auto can go, just a minimum and maximum. If you go for a certian time and pull a certian weight and you're happy with it then great. If not, then readjust whatever factors and try again. No point in arguing about two totally different experiences with two totally different set of circumstances. Of course the results will be different from one another.

Hes a cunt acting like any actaull good photo compairing auto is some year long grow. OP asked about good yeild compaired to short enx and far end of time in autos. This dudes a prick. I clearly just wrote and can pic prove that my plants i just grew and chopped were very heay yeilding and of shorter variety. Dude has had a roigh time growing autos so he wants to have some attitude.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

Oh by the way was my first auto grow and first grow under my QB in coco and nailed it if Taco wants some tips.

Logan Burke · Jul 28, 2018

Jack Kilgore said:
Hey Folks,

I have some questions about the nature of Autos and how difficult they are, yield, and a few introductory tips.

Im sure everyone has some good knowledge, but I really need this to work out well, so I have conducted a significant amount of scientific research, both in print and online. I know how they work, based on time rather than a photoperiod, and I am aware they will complete their entire cycle within 12 weeks, some quite faster, down to as quick as 6 weeks.

What I do not know is how does the yield compare with normal period-based plants? Moreover, for context, this summer's gros is my first official grow. Ive grown single plants before on several occasions, but this is the first time Ive had the resources to actually produce good quality medicine for myself and future patients. Moreover, I am curious how they will do in my locality.

Im in the CenCal region, right smack dab in the center of the state, and im growing outdoors in 5 gallon smartpots. Currently I have 4x Bubba Kush's. The temperature outside and on my patio regularly exceeds 100°. This is absolutely normal for us. But the temperature on the patio, surrounded by a wooden fence on 3 sodes. That fence gathers up that daytime heat, and doesnt really have a chance to cool off, meaning the temp on my patio easily tops 110° on a regular, frequent basis during summer. So thats something they will contend with just like the others, how do they handle the heat?

Hmmm...very fair question. I believe once they're big and have strong roots that they could withstand those temps, but not for an entire day, could you perhaps put them somewhere that they get at least a few hours of shade everyday? Or perhaps you could move them in and out of direct sun as needed? I do think you'll be ok, but temps that high will definitely create a little heat stress without getting some periods of shade throughout the day.

Logan Burke · Jul 28, 2018

I mean they couldn't withstand those temps and stay in an optimal condition...I'm sure they'd be capable of it, bu

TacoMac said:
That sort of defeats the entire purpose of autos though, doesn't it?

Autos were engineered to be fast grows. In growing fast, you get less. It's that simple. Autos were engineered with the small, apartment grower in mind: they don't get overly large, it takes the guess work out of light scheduling and it is done in far less time than the standard plant. You get in, get your shit, and get out.

If you want big yields, then auto's are a waste of time because you obviously are not concerned with speed and you have plenty of space to work with without fear of "being discovered". So in that instance, why would you even bother with autos? It's a moot point in that scenario.

That's all there is to it.

That's for the grower to decide if it defeats the purpose they're doing it for. Nothing is going to be right for everyone, or at least is quite unlikely to. No, auto's are not a waste of time if you want big yields...do them in DWC and you'll see what I mean. Now let's please help the OP, the arguing is an interruption to a legit question and concern.

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

If im OP and even outside, id want to do my best to limit peat patrol and use pots of coco. Get Royal Gold Tupar plant in 2-3 gal and water evry 8 hours. In small amounts this coco can get watered 6x a day for hydro like oxygen to the roots. Depends on how much you want to pay attention to them. A 2-3 gal pot of coco can easily achive the same or better as soil in a 5 gal and for autos who have a pre determined schedule, more than 5 gal of soil seems to be wasting meduim.

Stockthemperor · Jul 28, 2018

Hey guys, I'm not sure why we have someone bashing on autos but they are fantastic. They may not always pull max Oz's compared to photos every time. If you dial them in and have lots of light then yes. Another consideration should be gentics, alot of the strains are mixed with some kind of low rider or ruderalis plant. That being said focus on genetics and yields of genetics they produce. Is it on big cola, or many colas? Is it a good scrogger or is it a sea of green. I completely disgaree with anyone saying autos can't produce what photos can that's just flat out incorrect information. I'm about to pull around 4 to 5 ounces on one auto in 2 months one week. I'm using led lighting around 500 watts of real power.

Jack Kilgore said:
Hey Folks,

I have some questions about the nature of Autos and how difficult they are, yield, and a few introductory tips.

Im sure everyone has some good knowledge, but I really need this to work out well, so I have conducted a significant amount of scientific research, both in print and online. I know how they work, based on time rather than a photoperiod, and I am aware they will complete their entire cycle within 12 weeks, some quite faster, down to as quick as 6 weeks.

What I do not know is how does the yield compare with normal period-based plants? Moreover, for context, this summer's gros is my first official grow. Ive grown single plants before on several occasions, but this is the first time Ive had the resources to actually produce good quality medicine for myself and future patients. Moreover, I am curious how they will do in my locality.

Im in the CenCal region, right smack dab in the center of the state, and im growing outdoors in 5 gallon smartpots. Currently I have 4x Bubba Kush's. The temperature outside and on my patio regularly exceeds 100°. This is absolutely normal for us. But the temperature on the patio, surrounded by a wooden fence on 3 sodes. That fence gathers up that daytime heat, and doesnt really have a chance to cool off, meaning the temp on my patio easily tops 110° on a regular, frequent basis during summer. So thats something they will contend with just like the others, how do they handle the heat?

Stockthemperor · Jul 28, 2018

If you want to see for yourself here's my thread I started. I will be updating and letting you final yield.

Here's my thread
https://www.rollitup.org/t/zachs-new-upgraded-grow.972467/#post-14385592

Stockthemperor said:
Hey guys, I'm not sure why we have skmeone bashing on autos but they are fantastic. They may not always pull max Oz's compared to photos every time. If you dial them in and have lots of light then yes. Another consideration should be gentics, alot of the strains are mixed with some kind of low rider or ruderalis plant. That being said focus on genetics and yields of genetics they produce. Is it on big cola, or many colas? Is it a good scrogger or is it a sea of green. I completely disgaree with anyone saying autos can't produce what photos can that's just flat out incorrect information. I'm about to pull around 4 to 5 ounces on one auto in 2 months one week. I'm using led lighting around 500 watts of real power.

Stockthemperor · Jul 28, 2018

One last thing go for a heat resistant strain Jack. Alot of sativa's and certain strains will handle bursts of high heat. I'm living in Colorado and we see 109 days sometimes and it handles. It will droop, just keep on eye on it. I've grown autos outside for the sheer reason of 17 hours of sun.

Jack Kilgore said:
Hey Folks,

I have some questions about the nature of Autos and how difficult they are, yield, and a few introductory tips.

Im sure everyone has some good knowledge, but I really need this to work out well, so I have conducted a significant amount of scientific research, both in print and online. I know how they work, based on time rather than a photoperiod, and I am aware they will complete their entire cycle within 12 weeks, some quite faster, down to as quick as 6 weeks.

What I do not know is how does the yield compare with normal period-based plants? Moreover, for context, this summer's gros is my first official grow. Ive grown single plants before on several occasions, but this is the first time Ive had the resources to actually produce good quality medicine for myself and future patients. Moreover, I am curious how they will do in my locality.

Im in the CenCal region, right smack dab in the center of the state, and im growing outdoors in 5 gallon smartpots. Currently I have 4x Bubba Kush's. The temperature outside and on my patio regularly exceeds 100°. This is absolutely normal for us. But the temperature on the patio, surrounded by a wooden fence on 3 sodes. That fence gathers up that daytime heat, and doesnt really have a chance to cool off, meaning the temp on my patio easily tops 110° on a regular, frequent basis during summer. So thats something they will contend with just like the others, how do they handle the heat?

Jack Kilgore · Jul 28, 2018

Good talk, guys, good talk!

MATTYMATT726 · Jul 28, 2018

Jack Kilgore said:
Good talk, guys, good talk!

Just saying man, 60 days is about as shirt as it gets and 70-80 is more normal. This was 82. That Taco guy I've never even seen since today and I've posted here in autos since March when i started getiing into them. He didn't really offer anything being 100% here. He must've got mad cause he thought i was picking on him for not getting high yields but that wasn't even the case. Anyways, you can get some solid yeilds on 70-80 days if you pick good autos.4+ easy per plant. Just gotta read before buying. I researched alot before making my Breeder choice(Mephisto Genetics) and believe they along with Dinafem are the top choice for autos. Not at all far behind would be Fast Buds, Sweet Seeds and Dutch Passion. There are other autos yes but deep looking will show these are the ones with real promise and progress in autos. Also just to note, the strings had to help hold buds up. You can zoom and see. Thise were a few days before chop.

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