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Discussion in 'Organics' started by DonBrennon, Sep 24, 2017.


    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    I found the Space monkey flopping all over the place on Thursday and although I think she needed another week, I decided to take her down(3 days short of 9 weeks). I really didn't do this plant justice and think she could be a lot better. She's covered in frost and is very sticky, the smell is quite strong and hard to place, not particularly appealing to me ATM, I'm hoping that will develop into something more pleasant as it dries/cures. IMG_0920.JPG IMG_0928.JPG IMG_0926.JPG IMG_0935.JPG IMG_0938.JPG IMG_0943.JPG IMG_0948.JPG
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Cheap, homemade fish hydrolysate, very easy with the right ingredients and equipment, although very messy and certainly not for the squeamish, LOL

    Recipe, taken from here http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/recipes/fish-fertilizer/

    I used 2 mackrel bought for £4 from the local supermarket, each 'measured' as roughly 500ml in volume, so I followed their recipe to the 'T'

    '1' Mackrel 500ml (to measure the fish volume, I poured 300ml of water in a 1 litre jug and added the cut up fish, the water level went up to 800ml, so I knew I had 500ml of fish)
    1500ml water (non or de-chlorinated)
    167g mollases/brownsugar
    4 tablespoons of lacto/em1 (I'm not 100% confident in my homemade lacto, so also used some EM1 for piece of mind)

    It's really important to cut up the skin of the fish into small pieces, if you don't want to be replacing your blender, it's totally disgusting, but better than paying for a new blender. The skin in particular wraps around the blades, straining the motor till it burns out. Blend the fish in small bursts and monitor how warm the body of the blender is getting. If you smell any burning, that is the motor, stop immediately and allow everything to cool down.
    Put your fish, (some)water, sugar and lacto in the blender and blend till you've got a fine mush
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    Pour into a large bottle with the rest of the water, mix up and allow to ferment in a warm, dark place for 4-6 weeks. It's important to keep it as anaerobic as possible, but it's also vital that you release the gas produced during fermentation somehow. I really wouldn't like to have to clean up an exploded bottle of this stuff, LOL When it's ready, the nasty fishy smell is gone and you're left with a faint sweet/vinegary smell
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    calliandra Well-Known Member

    Mmm yummy thanks for sharing that! :D
    I've been toying with making some of this myself, it's supposed to be an excellent foodstock for ACT!
    Say, did you remove the bones or did they get chopped along with the rest?

    MM byebye SpaceMonkey - what are you going to do with the soil, recycle or just topdress?
    I've ended up just topdressing the 15L pot my PE was in - VC /coco/ pumice, plus a tablespoon of eggshell and kelp, let the borage carry on growing, and the BerryBomb Auto I've sprouted in there is looking quite happy for the time being.
    But we have yet to see how that develops and whether it would've been better to take that pot apart and recycle instead :rolleyes:

    Oh and congrats on your worms!!
    Cheers! :blsmoke:

    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Hahaha, it's a nasty process, but well worth the effort. :spew:

    It's best if you can use the whole fish, bones, eyes, skull, guts, the lot............apparently, if the guts are intact, the bacteria within help the fermentation process, mine were gutted though. The final concoction does need straining, but most of the bones and scales will have been digested and there will be very little solid material left to remove.

    The soil used for the space monkey will be re-cycled and probably used for something else. I've diy'd a 'SIP' today, which is already filled with a 50/50 mix of new and re-cycled soil and in the tent waiting for the SM to dry.............I'm gonna put the big 'Shit' plant I've got in it as soon as possible and flip it as soon as it's healthy enough.

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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Shit, exactly 9 weeks in, looks like another week to me..............gonna be a very easy trim if she keeps losing leaves at this rate IMG_1004.JPG
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Dropped 16 of my own pollen chucks into soil last week as back up for my shitty/poorly looking plants, 7 days after putting em' into soil I got 4/4 Crazy Cali's, 3/4 SSDD F2's, 2/4 Psycho Lizards and a worrying 1/4 /lounge room lizards

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    calliandra Well-Known Member

    Haha! I know there's no real connection and hence no real reason, but still. all proud of those Crazy Callis!
    May they be the feistiest of the batch and do their namesake justice with exquisitely multifarious smelloscapes!!! :bigjoint:

    Also especially curious to see how those SSDD f2'S do and whether they put out a lot of variance or not!
    Too bad about the lounge room lizards, but you had those growing before didn't you?
    It would make one think that the Blue Iguana doesn't mix well, at least a TOTAL breeding noob like me would start thinking shit like that, given it's in both lineages of those that didn't sprout :-P

    Cheers and have a good week! :blsmoke:
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Sadly they're all now dead :cry:.................. had police lurking around the street on a few occasions, so decided to seriously reduce my plant count to just 5.

    I've got a confirmed Lounge room lizard female in one tent and I'm running the 'Shit' again in the other tent.

    LRL (1st photo taken straight after transplant)
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    Shit (1st photo 1 week after transplant)
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    calliandra Well-Known Member

    looks like I'm going to have to grow em myself then :rolleyes:
    But those two there are looking good - love the new container, makes me want to jump in and wallow in it myself haha
    How did you end up doing the bottom?

    Interesting to see that tier of yellow-bordered leaves on the shit (I'm yellow-traumatized at the mo haha), especially from the perspective of how she visibly got back into balance afterwards - what's your take on that? (ideas theories magic fixing concoctions? :mrgreen:)
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Get some of em' popped, the only thing we know about them is that they seem to germ pretty easily, LOL :-D

    Hahaha...........the sip/air bed does look invitingly comfortable, shame it's not big enough to lie down on, lmao.:bigjoint:
    I ended up putting wicks through every drilled hole in the bottom of the bed and it seems to be working well so far (all the hole without wicks in the 1st photo, got shorter wicks only going about 2 inches into the soil)........... IMG_1045.JPG
    Before and after shots from Thursdays bondage session(Loungeroom Lizard)bongsmilie
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    The more conventional SIP is performing very well, I've not seen growth this fast since I did DWC.

    She was getting a bit bushy and showing slight mag def, so I thinned her out and gave her an epsom foliar................. IMG_1120.JPG IMG_1125.JPG
    I waited for a couple of days before tying her down, to let her get over the extreme pruning she got
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    DonBrennon Well-Known Member

    Both plants recovering nicely this morning

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    Loungeroom Lizard
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    Have a great Sunday folks..............bongsmilie
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