Debate with a Trumper (any Trumper)

sixstring2112

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I think he's saying he doesn't want to pay your fucking taxes or YOUR fucking healthcare cost .why dont some of you understand this ?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Property are not rights, fruit of their labor are not rights.

In other words, you think too much..pay your fucking taxes, Rob.


So, there is no such thing as a right of a person to retain / control themselves or their justly acquired property ?

No such thing as the gardener being able to claim the product of his labor as his / hers to determine the use and disposition of ?


If people don't have any right to claim property they have created, when you eat something are you stealing from another ?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
So, there is no such thing as a right of a person to retain / control themselves or their justly acquired property ?

No such thing as the gardener being able to claim the product of his labor as his / hers to determine the use and disposition of ?


If people don't have any right to claim property they have created, when you eat something are you stealing from another ?
Rights are not material; they are a state.

You're talking apples and oranges with your examples- not the same thing.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Rights are not material; they are a state.

You're talking apples and oranges with your examples- not the same thing.

So, if I came to your house and ate all your apples and oranges without your permission and pilfered your collection of signed Justin Bieber bare chested posters, you would or would not have a legitimate cause (right) to defend your property or be restituted by me ?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
So, if I came to your house and ate all your apples and oranges without your permission and pilfered your collection of signed Justin Bieber bare chested posters, you would or would not have a legitimate cause (right) to defend your property or be restituted by me ?
I would call the police; I pay my taxes.
 

UncleBuck

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You you saw a post on riu from a member who has been here about 8 months lol.so you know i guy who says...nevermind haha.i HAVE KNOWN A GUY for a very long time"real life" not yer troll buddy lol.
You should move to canada then.etna just dropped out of most of obamacare,god i wish they would just let this thing finish its self distruction.do you know anyone with obamacare that has a decent deductible?
why are you so emotional?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So, if I came to your house and ate all your apples and oranges without your permission and pilfered your collection of signed Justin Bieber bare chested posters, you would or would not have a legitimate cause (right) to defend your property or be restituted by me ?
how is a paying black customer shopping in a store anything like someone robbing your house, you dumb racist?
 

Rob Roy

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kicking black people out of your store because they are black is a racism decision, not a bsiness decision.

you dumb racist.

You are half right half wit. It is both. It is a racist choice on how he will conduct his business.

The point being, if the property owner decided intended to restrict who he would consider doing business with, he couldn't also be "open to the public" without reservation could he ? The two concepts are dissimilar.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
how is a paying black customer shopping in a store anything like someone robbing your house, you dumb racist?

Good question. In both cases the property owner is being deprived of control their property and is being forced into a human interaction they'd prefer not to be in.

Human interactions which begin with one party being stripped of their choice to engage or not are a lot like rape, as they do not honor individual consent.
 
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