Defoliation, a scientific approach...

All sativa dom except the two in the front that are on top of pots (obviously more Indica dom). Definitely not Indica dom for the most part unless you consider og kush and sour diesel or gg4 Indica?

I think you looked at my pics wrong darth there's only 2 small plants on the bunch (the two on the pots making the canopy level) - I'd be happy with 20oz from this batch especially with the learning curve of using pots and medium when I solely grow mediumless grows. And sativaa need much longer veg to get a good yield, 10 days doesn't usually cut it for sativas to get a decent yield. What are you experience with headband?

Most OG are 50/50 and gg4, sour d are sativa dom

That's what I thought too 707, or I though og was more 60/40 sat dom, bbut some swing either way, like Larry og. Sour d definitely sativa, gg4, one hella of a sativa, it's hard to get yield off of them with out veg time in my experience. I don't grow too many Indica dom but my blue lemon thai didn't stretch at all, same with the fruity chronic juice. They are aight 10" smaller than the rest after being flowered at the same height

Also, all og, or true og, stretch and grow like a sativa. That's kind of what I meant. Og stretch like sour d, but yield much less.

what i am trying to say is
with stripping your plant in all seriousness your slowed growth down plants using its energy not to grow or make buds but to repair its self ,
Also from stripping leaves you can induce HERMIES , Nanners , bottom line here from a unbiass grower

After one week of drying I have the final weights :

For defoliated plants :
1) 7.6 grams
2) 7.8 grams
3) 8.2 grams
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Def Total = 23.6 grams

For non-defoliated plants:
1) 13.5 grams
2) 13.9 grams
3) 14.2 grams
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Non-def Total = 41.6 grams


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=285930

I followed that thread as well. It's all about how you go about it I suppose. I know if a plant has 10 leaves, like those, and you take those 10 leaves off, while giving the same veg time to recooperate, then the non defol. Will win. The defol needs more time to recooperate. Maybe an extra 10 days or so. But that 10 days can be worth it. Train in veg. Let them harden up. Flower. Continue light defol . That's how I've done it. 1gpw on a 3.5x3.5 tray for years with low yield strains...

I know it's not something to wrap your mind around easily. I didn't even know what I've done when I've done it. I did it for control of the plants. I went many grows getting about a pound per light with the same strain before I starting experiments with defoliation. Doubled up the yield.

Darth Vapour said:

what i am trying to say is
with stripping your plant in all seriousness your slowed growth down plants using its energy not to grow or make buds but to repair its self ,
Also from stripping leaves you can induce HERMIES , Nanners , bottom line here from a unbiass grower

After one week of drying I have the final weights :

For defoliated plants :
1) 7.6 grams
2) 7.8 grams
3) 8.2 grams
-------------------
Def Total = 23.6 grams

For non-defoliated plants:
1) 13.5 grams
2) 13.9 grams
3) 14.2 grams
--------------------
Non-def Total = 41.6 grams


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=285930

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I defoliate all my girls, I take leaves that are shading buds and to open the canopy up a little. I don't defoliate 100%, more like 25-30%. I would agree small plants like that, that are only yielding 7-14 grams shouldn't be defoliated because they don't have that many leaves on them to begin with. I grow my plants much larger and only have 4-5 plants under each 1000w in a 4x4 area with a 4 week veg time and average 7-9 ounces a plant. Also I have never got a hermie in 15 years in any of my main rooms. The only time I get an occasional hermie is in my tester room when I'm pheno hunting with seeds, and I've gotten maybe 3-4 total.

I was getting 36 of these buds per table in my Tangerine kush defol table. Old pic, but yea, defoliently not small lol

buddy i was mentoring decided to take some advice while i was on Holidays his would of been 8 pound harvast barely made 2 lmao

Buddy, I don't know what your doing but I got 12.5 off this 6 light defoliated. Maybe your taking too much too early

Yeah that's a terrible grow to get 2 pounds off 4 lights dang

707 seems to have a grasp on how it's done, 12.5 from 6 lights is golden, especially if it's a lower yield strain, I'd take that all day

you want to see a buds ok

Those are some nice big Bud, but those arent sativa unless it's blue dream or something

Here's some sativa

What strain is that out of curiosity? Something with big bud in it?

GG4 hanging

707humboldt said:

Buddy, I don't know what your doing but I got 12.5 off this 6 light defoliated. Maybe your taking too much too early

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how many plants in there ?? i grow 12 plants 3 k make 7 3/4 - 8 pounds plus 3/4 pound of hash normally 8 1/4 - 8 1/2 in goods my best run ever was 2 k umbrella hoods 9 1/4 pounds 72 plants
week 5 12 k

The big bud over your face is gg? II'd have to call bs on that, the ones hanging look fresh the day of harvest so I can believerthat since they are smaller

Darth Vapour said:

you want to see a buds ok

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That picture says outdoor buds

Do you have any close ups of the Buds?

This was my recent grow, lots of leaf plucking on this one