Defoliation question

Afgan King

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I'm just using real science to work threw where "I" am mistaken. Hell, for all I know, I'm a dumme, and you guys are right.

Just a few more questions will straighten me right out, I'm sure.
I guarantee defoliation will be a big part of growing indoors
 

purplehays1

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I'm just using real science to work threw where "I" am mistaken. Hell, for all I know, I'm a dumme, and you guys are right.

Just a few more questions will straighten me right out, I'm sure.
I am intelligent enough to know that there are many things in this world that i do not know and things i will never understand, but that doesn't mean they are not true. Defoliating a cannabis plant is one of them, ive seen it done thousands of time by the most skilled growers i know with the utmost success. I guess some girls just like the abuse.
 

Dumme

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Using Google or youtube is not cheating...

We'll get to my questions on defoliation in a minute, but let's start with the easy ones, agreed?
 

In Shape Vet

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out of 5 strains iv never grown monster colas that i see in some pictures around here but i defoliate and train quite a bit. i do however usually feed and not mess or check on anything with the plants for several days at a time. aside from the test i did with kinetin which left me with what seemed like hundreds of very tiny micro popcorn buds all over the branches i do get a very contestant size with the popcorn and the large buds are typically the terminal buds.
 

coreywebster

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Come on guys anyone can answer..
Plants have two different types of transport tissue. Xylem transports water and solutes from the roots to the leaves, phloem transports food from the leaves to the rest of the plant. Transpiration is the process by which water evaporates from the leaves, which results in more water being drawn up from the roots. Plants have adaptations to reduce excessive water loss.

Xylem and phloem
Plants have transport systems to move food, water and minerals around. These systems use continuous tubes called xylem and phloem.

Xylem
Xylem vessels are involved in the movement of water through a plant from its roots to its leaves. Water:

  • Is absorbed from the soil through root hair cells
  • Is transported through the xylem vessels up the stem to the leaves
  • Evaporates from the leaves (transpiration)
Phloem
Phloem vessels are involved in translocation. This is the movement of food substances from the stems to growing tissues and storage tissues.


Root - xylem and phloem in the centre of the root to withstand stretching forces.



Xylem and phloem - Higher tier

Diagram showing the cross sections of a xylem and a phloem

Xylem vessels consist of dead cells. They have a thick, strengthened cellulose cell wall with a hollow lumen. On the other hand, phloem consists of columns of living cells.
 

In Shape Vet

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Dumme, can you answer this, perhaps when defoliation is done, its typically done at the higher portions of the plant correct? if so, then wouldnt auxins temporarily be more concentrated to buds below the terminal shoots after the plant has been damaged? would this satisfy an appropriate hypothesis to why the lower buds grow?
 

Dumme

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Alright... see now I'm learning, it's not that hard.

Ok, next question. Whats the main function of a leaf?
 

Dumme

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Dumme, can you answer this, perhaps when defoliation is done, its typically done at the higher portions of the plant correct? if so, then wouldnt auxins temporarily be more concentrated to buds below the terminal shoots after the plant has been damaged? would this satisfy an appropriate hypothesis to why the lower buds grow?
:wink: I'm just a dumme, how would I know.

Jk, Ill answer as soon as my next 4 questions are done.
 

In Shape Vet

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i dont think this is very necessary. there may be a combination of factors at play here, but look at the bud that i took. had i not defoliated would it be frostier? larger? to me it looks like its decent quality despite the fact that all of the leaves had been removed. the plant was able to survive and still managed to devote its remaining life to reproduction without dying or even yet, sacrificing other buds to ensure the survival of others.
 

purplehays1

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i dont think this is very necessary. there may be a combination of factors at play here, but look at the bud that i took. had i not defoliated would it be frostier? larger? to me it looks like its decent quality despite the fact that all of the leaves had been removed. the plant was able to survive and still managed to devote its remaining life to reproduction without dying or even yet, sacrificing other buds to ensure the survival of others.
Honestly bud your plant has a lot bigger problems than the over-defoliation. That plant was nute burned to a crisp.
 

Afgan King

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Right like we get you have a degree I don't get what your trying to prove other than you can Pat yourself on the back
 

Dumme

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i dont think this is very necessary. there may be a combination of factors at play here, but look at the bud that i took. had i not defoliated would it be frostier? larger? to me it looks like its decent quality despite the fact that all of the leaves had been removed. the plant was able to survive and still managed to devote its remaining life to reproduction without dying or even yet, sacrificing other buds to ensure the survival of others.
I had 7 questions total. I was sure that with @Afgan King 's background and portfolio, that these simple questions would be know big deal.

I have been very wrong in the past about all sorts of things. In growing, I'm constantly trying to expand my knowledge. I acknowledge I could be wrong. Are you guys seriously not willing to help me out in learning. Hell, the worst possible outcome is we both learn.
 

purplehays1

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We have all already admitted to having no formal education on plants. Being as you seem to have a very strong understanding of the anatomy of plants can u please explain to us why defoliation works? Because it does.
 

Dumme

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We have all already admitted to having no formal education on plants. Being as you seem to have a very strong understanding of the anatomy of plants can u please explain to us why defoliation works? Because it does.
I cant..
 
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