Defoliation question

Dumme said:

Please elaborate and explain where allowing light to "everywhere", by the defoliation technique, will help in large yield, using basic plant biology?

Give me just one technical reference, base on current botany.

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Ill give you 15 years of defoliating and seeing the results vs your logic about botany any day...
I am not a botanist, i cant explain why, read my post above for my best attempt, but defoliation works, try it yourself and you will see. Just because we dont have the knowledge of botany to prove it on paper doesnt make it untrue

Edit: Does much more for certain strains than others. A pure indica strain probably wont see much benefit from defoliation as they tend to produce solid nugs even under the canopy.

What. Is it the xylam I think carries water and some nutrient but not sure if main source the pith transports between the plant itself I believe idk the scientific name for it gotta remember I'm also a stoner I remember shit but partially

yea i think so too, i like taking samples so i can look at them under a scope and next ill have someone try it for me to see how its coming along. this one is a haze lady. iv heard some dont really amber up and iv noticed that with this one, but then again hazes can go allot longer than others from what iv been told on here as well.

But again defoliation works can't give you an exact reason why on indoor plants in particular but I bet it has to do with intensity and the spectrum you can get from the sun compared to an hps

Correct,

Xylem (the woody part), carries the disolved raw nutrients up the stem to where?

Dumme said:

Correct,

Xylem, carries the disolved raw nutrients up the stem to where?

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Lol bro I swear you remind me of my dad right now we argue this shit and he says everything your saying to a T and asks same questions to show he knows more about it in theory but not in experience.

Afgan King said:

Lol bro I swear you remind me of my dad right now we argue this shit and he says everything your saying to a T and asks same questions to show he knows more about it in theory but not in experience.

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That being said I shit on his weed everyday and twice on Sundays lol he grows and buys from me still and just sells his to friends lmao

@dummee, your background will provide you with allot of information in regards to plants. In your experience you may have come about plants that behave differently than others by simple diversity. Because of prohibition, there may not be as many published studies done on cannabis, however odd it may seem, a unique characteristic of the cannabis plant would be what is being discussed now and exploited by experienced growers. Perhaps in the future, a proper scientific study could be performed and tested in lab conditions.

Afgan King said:

Lol bro I swear you remind me of my dad right now we argue this shit and he says everything your saying to a T and asks same questions to show he knows more about it in theory but not in experience.

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Trust me, I have plenty of experience with cannabis.

Where does the Xylem carry it to?

I found that when I missed a watering along time ago and my plants shed the big leaf that the sugar leaf grew larger, I figured it was to compensate for the loss of solar panels, so yes they finished but they seemed more leafy and harder to trim
This could all of been coincidental or me seeing what I wanted to or expected to see.
Does anybody think there is any weight to that idea?

Agreed man Im not trying to disrespect your degree or anything I understand what your saying cannabis is just different man I can't explain it I don't have the knowledge to explain it like you could but people like you in the next couple years will be explaining why the cannabis plant in particular does this indoors I promise

Afgan King said:

And what are your questions because if you want anecdotal evidence there won't be any. Cannabis has only been grown on such a large scale for less than a decade and with federal bans there is no true testing. But I can give you more field experience and commercial experience than a lot of people. Personal grows are cool but when you have a 5,000 plant count some real experimenting on how to grow comes into play

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Id just like to point out that someone of your Knowlege who has worked in Canna factories should know that Cannibis Has been grwon in HUGE commerical quantities for thousands of years. Every super power where huge producers. It did everything from battle dressings to oil for there lamps.
England basically turned India into one of the largest cannabis producing areas ever known to keep her ships sailing and the lights burning.

Afgan King said:

Agreed man Im not trying to disrespect your degree or anything I understand what your saying cannabis is just different man I can't explain it I don't have the knowledge to explain it like you could but people like you in the next couple years will be explaining why the cannabis plant in particular does this indoors I promise

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Humor me..
where does it do?

Afgan King said:

And what's your reference how.many plants you grown? Over 10,000? Cuz I'm well over it buddy

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Just for the record, I'm in the tens, not the hundreds or on, but I pay attention.

Dumme said:

Trust me, I have plenty of experience with cannabis.

Where does the Xylem carry it to?

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I must admit i did have a giggle when you said '0" plants..i know what you do for a crust. lol

this one looks nice, its hard to see but at the top its starting to turn a bit purple. this is viper city og 13 by moxie

Dumme said:

Humor me..
where does it do?

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Transports nutrients from synthesis organs to storing organs?

I'm just using real science to work threw where "I" am mistaken. Hell, for all I know, I'm a dumme, and you guys are right.

Just a few more questions will straighten me right out, I'm sure.

coreywebster said:

I found that when I missed a watering along time ago and my plants shed the big leaf that the sugar leaf grew larger, I figured it was to compensate for the loss of solar panels, so yes they finished but they seemed more leafy and harder to trim
This could all of been coincidental or me seeing what I wanted to or expected to see.
Does anybody think there is any weight to that idea?

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I haven't noticed this myself, i have always found the trimming to be much easier for plants that have been defoliated. The issue with defoliating is that many claim it lowers yield, which may be true in the grand total, but the quality of the product is more consistent and higher quality (easier to sell).

Dumme said:

Where does the Xylem carry it to?

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Come on guys anyone can answer..