Defoliation - removing fan leaves for higher yield

jmoneygrows

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Now I ask you this... that same grow... with ALL the leaves left.. on indica dominate strains... you're gonna sit there and tell me they'd be bigger ? ✌
 

jmoneygrows

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that's a half ass defol job if you ask me. way too many leaves left.
Defoliated day 21, they regrow... as previously mentioned.
There is an art to growing in small spaces. For outdoor growers or people with no space issues, who love paying for humidifiers, by all means. But when this pulls a g per watt or more ( which it will) ill be sure to come back and post it, scale numbers and all.
 

jmoneygrows

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that's a half ass defol job if you ask me. way too many leaves left.
What you're seeing is 90% sugar leaves.
Day 21 right after defoliation. Everything is off except a few fans on the outside that weren't hindering bud sites/blocking airflow.
The time these ladies spent undressed helped bottom stalks fatten up immensely. There will be no Popcorn buds this yield.
 

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Lucky Luke

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I know allot on this forum are not native English speakers so just for those who are not, defoliate means to strip and remove all leaves. All, not some or most or a few.

It doesn't mean to trim or prune. Agent Orange for eg was/is a chemical defoliant.
 

jmoneygrows

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I know allot on this forum are not native English speakers so just for those who are not, defoliate means to strip and remove all leaves. All, not some or most or a few.

It doesn't mean to trim or prune. Agent Orange for eg was/is a chemical defoliant.
Here's a tip: when you're going to bash someone on the English language... spell A LOT properly
Now in terms of what you think defoliate means...find me any definition that says defoliate is when you strip ALL leaves off?
 

Budzbuddha

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What you're seeing is 90% sugar leaves.
Day 21 right after defoliation. Everything is off except a few fans on the outside that weren't hindering bud sites/blocking airflow.
The time these ladies spent undressed helped bottom stalks fatten up immensely. There will be no Popcorn buds this yield.
Yikes ... Why didn't you just tuck leaves ?
Your plants need healthy green leaves to provide energy to your grow ...it will pull what it needs FROM the leaves as it matures and then deplete the leaves ( yellow ) as it uses its reserves.

What does fattening the stalk gonna do ? ....
If anything you shocked these plants ...... Do you you go outside and strip rose bushes for bigger blooms ?

You just dropped your potential yield by raping this plant ... Lollipoping is one thing but now your plant cant TRANSPIRE and now will be larfy sticks.
 

Lucky Luke

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Here's a tip: when you're going to bash someone on the English language... spell A LOT properly
Now in terms of what you think defoliate means...find me any definition that says defoliate is when you strip ALL leaves off?
im not English, if you are then you should know what defoliate means,
 

Lucky Luke

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Here's a tip: when you're going to bash someone on the English language... spell A LOT properly
.find me any definition that says defoliate is when you strip ALL leaves off?
Defoliation

to strip (a tree, bush, etc.) of leaves.


Notice the word strip.

When people strip a car it means nothing is left. When you go and see the strippers they remove all their clothing. When people strip a roof of their house it means to remove the whole roof. When a painter strips back a car for a repaint it means back to bare metal.

There is even a big clue in the name itself De-foliate
 
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jmoneygrows

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Yikes ... Why didn't you just tuck leaves ?
Your plants need healthy green leaves to provide energy to your grow ...it will pull what it needs FROM the leaves as it matures and then deplete the leaves ( yellow ) as it uses its reserves.

What does fattening the stalk gonna do ? ....
If anything you shocked these plants ...... Do you you go outside and strip rose bushes for bigger blooms ?

You just dropped your potential yield by raping this plant ... Lollipoping is one thing but now your plant cant TRANSPIRE and now will be larfy sticks.
Another comment from the peanut gallery.
Again, when harvest time comes, you'll see a healthy yield.
Defoliation

to strip (a tree, bush, etc.) of leaves.


Notice the word strip.
Ever been to a strip club?
The ones I've been to don't get fully naked. Unfortunately.
Anyways, the one word I'm looking for is "ALL"
I don't see that anywhere on any definition of defoliate.
But hey, agree to disagree.

For all the posters here talking about playing with themselves and have never defoliated before, I'll leave you with this...
Just because you've had some pussy(the same pussy) doesn't mean its good pussy.
Those who choose to not accept conventional ideas are the innovators. Like the wright brothers defying odds of flight, Steve jobs defying odds of a smartphone, and Elon musk defying odds at basically whatever the fuck he does. You can't change a belief; It's very hard to anyways. But what you can do is try, as hard as you possibly can, to see the other perspective.
For those who don't experiment, bound by scientific "fact" you are showing that you are "stuck"
And unlike your plants, you will never grow. No matter how many years you grow this weed.
*Mic drop *
 

Lucky Luke

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Another comment from the peanut gallery.
Again, when harvest time comes, you'll see a healthy yield.


Ever been to a strip club?
The ones I've been to don't get fully naked. Unfortunately.
Anyways, the one word I'm looking for is "ALL"
I don't see that anywhere on any definition of defoliate.
But hey, agree to disagree.

For all the posters here talking about playing with themselves and have never defoliated before, I'll leave you with this...
Just because you've had some pussy(the same pussy) doesn't mean its good pussy.
Those who choose to not accept conventional ideas are the innovators. Like the wright brothers defying odds of flight, Steve jobs defying odds of a smartphone, and Elon musk defying odds at basically whatever the fuck he does. You can't change a belief; It's very hard to anyways. But what you can do is try, as hard as you possibly can, to see the other perspective.
For those who don't experiment, bound by scientific "fact" you are showing that you are "stuck"
And unlike your plants, you will never grow. No matter how many years you grow this weed.
*Mic drop *
yep, used to go to one every afternoon after work, if there not taking it all off you must be in America or going to the wrong ones.

The word your looking for is Horticulture. Maybe study it sometime. De- foliate..think about it..remove- foliage...

*Kicks Mike into crowed, Mike gets up and walks to bar with a sore back*
 

jmoneygrows

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yep, used to go to one every afternoon after work, if there not taking it all off you must be in America or going to the wrong ones.

The word your looking for is Horticulture. Maybe study it sometime.

*Kicks Mike into crowed, Mike gets up and walks to bar with a sore back*
nice:clap:
 

Budzbuddha

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yep, used to go to one every afternoon after work, if there not taking it all off you must be in America or going to the wrong ones.

The word your looking for is Horticulture. Maybe study it sometime. De- foliate..think about it..remove- foliage...

*Kicks Mike into crowed, Mike gets up and walks to bar with a sore back*
He goes to MAGIC MIKE strip clubs .... DEFOLIATES penises .
Love these NOOB grows .... Quick to bitch , but smokes sticks
Fuck it .... LOL
 

Lucky Luke

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He goes to MAGIC MIKE strip clubs .... DEFOLIATES penises .
Love these NOOB grows .... Quick to bitch , but smokes sticks
Fuck it .... LOL
His grow looks OK to me. I just get annoyed with growers still using stoner terms.

Most of us prune and trim to an extent. But I don't know any apart from maybe 3 per light who defoliate.???

As the growers get more professional (Like Dr Who and other big name national growers) then hopefully we can become more professional in our terminology.

Using incorrect words or stoner terms that people make up their own definitions to , like Flushing or defoliating for eg which seems to mean two different things depending on who is typing needs to stop.

We need to up our game as a whole and educate. If we all use the same correct horticulture terms then discussions become easier and clearer.
 

jmoneygrows

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yep, used to go to one every afternoon after work, if there not taking it all off you must be in America or going to the wrong ones.

The word your looking for is Horticulture. Maybe study it sometime. De-
..think about it..remove- foliage...

*Kicks Mike into crowed, Mike gets up and walks to bar with a sore back*
Unfortunately most do not... some in Vegas, some in New Orleans but on the whole, strippers keep that revolving door they call a vagina, enclosed.
Yes, horticulture, great term. A lot of good has come as a result.
But the grey area here is de-foliate.
When I strip my plants 90% I call it defoliating. When I listen to others talk about their bushy plants and say they need to do "a little more defoliating" they aren't about to remove everything. And for some... defoliation is an ongoing process. Removing a little here, a little there...

Again let's not get caugh up in semantics... the point is, I've been REMOVING large portions of leaves from plants. And will get a good yield.

When you tuck the amount of leaves I had... on indicas... doesn't make a difference. Plants end up sweating on each other, and can cause mold.
I dunno about you, but I don't like mold.
I also don't like paying for equipment, like dehumidifiers, if I don't have to.
 

jmoneygrows

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He goes to MAGIC MIKE strip clubs .... DEFOLIATES penises .
Love these NOOB grows .... Quick to bitch , but smokes sticks
Fuck it .... LOL
Wait, is this a growing forum or Xbox live forum. NOOB, really?

Defoliates penises... that's a new one.
18 and up in here buddy... you're already grounded...don't make mommy and daddy take away your internet privileges too.
 

Lucky Luke

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Unfortunately most do not... some in Vegas, some in New Orleans but on the whole, strippers keep that revolving door they call a vagina, enclosed.
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False advertising!.. You should demand your money back!!

Americans are so conservative when it comes to sex.

We have the warm up ladies that don't strip off, but we call them dancers. Strippers strip.
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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Unfortunately most do not... some in Vegas, some in New Orleans but on the whole, strippers keep that revolving door they call a vagina, enclosed.
Yes, horticulture, great term. A lot of good has come as a result.
But the grey area here is de-foliate.
When I strip my plants 90% I call it defoliating. When I listen to others talk about their bushy plants and say they need to do "a little more defoliating" they aren't about to remove everything. And for some... defoliation is an ongoing process. Removing a little here, a little there...

Again let's not get caugh up in semantics... the point is, I've been REMOVING large portions of leaves from plants. And will get a good yield.

When you tuck the amount of leaves I had... on indicas... doesn't make a difference. Plants end up sweating on each other, and can cause mold.
I dunno about you, but I don't like mold.
I also don't like paying for equipment, like dehumidifiers, if I don't have to.
so, you're to cheap to buy and run a dehu and control your environment, so your answer is to pull all the leaves,lol
 

jmoneygrows

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False advertising!.. You should demand your money back!!

Americans are so conservative when it comes to sex.

We have the warm up ladies that don't strip off, but we call them dancers. Strippers strip.
Yeah, once I came back from Canada, Europe, and even some places in east Asia, I couldn't go to American stripe clubs. The rest of the world has ruined them for me. Like trying to drink a bud light after a premium IPA.
 
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