ChesusRice
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It would be legal for me and anyone else who wants to grow a personal stash
Better than what we have now
Democrat in Rhode Island leads charge against marijuana
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Better than what we have now
who said anyone was against legalizing marijuana?
what i have been trying to tell you is that there will always be a market for marijuana. plain and simple. for some you refuse to accept that fact.
THUD!!
ChesusRice
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SO you support legal to grow and possess
illegal to sell?
i support the full legalization of marijuana.
with that will come some type of sales.
reality accepted.
ChesusRice
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Doesnt have to come with salesi support the full legalization of marijuana.
with that will come some type of sales.
reality accepted.
That is a simple truth
Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell
You cant sell beer you brew at home
But you can make and drink it
ChesusRice
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Then brew some beer and try selling it
i have no desire to sell anything.
i can BUY all the beer i want. someone out there is SELLING it.
thud
ChesusRice
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YOu cannot just brew beer and sell it becuase the goverment says so
WOnt be any different if they legalize the sale of weed
and it will make it that much harder to get it decrimnalized
with legal sales
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I can brew beer. I can buy beer.
With those two satisfied, I have no need or wan to sell beer.
But under (the parallel to) your plan, i could not buy beer. cn
ChesusRice
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Why would you need to?
if i can buy it somebody certainly is brewing it. the stuff doesn't just fall out of the ski.
you need to change your plan to "legal to grow illegal to sell out your back door".
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Because the kind of beer I like is not necessarily the kind of beer I can make. One of the great pleasures in drinking beer (and wine) is gustatory tourism.
You don't help your position by asking plainly silly questions imo. cn
ChesusRice
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Well then enjoy the status quo
Because that is what we will be stuck with just so you can cash crop on the black market
for some reason you are stuck on this when it actually has nothing to do with the argument.
ChesusRice
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Has everything to do with the argument
You dont want it legal. Cuts into your living too much.
I propose a solution that will be the easiest to get passed. but you dont want that unless you also have the right to sell.
You and I both know there is no way if fucking hell the US goverment is not going to get involved to regulate a DRUG. And make it impossible for you to sell it. Look at Arizona. You cannot grow if someone opens a dispensary within 25 miles of you. Just wait till the FDA, and all the other alphabet agencys get involved.
That wouldnt be a problem if you were legally able to grow for yourself. I digress. That would put you out of business would be my guess. Thanks for nothing
ChesusRice
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On Tuesday, voters in California rejected a proposal to legalize marijuana for people over the age of 21. Proposition 19 lost 54% to 46%, with 11 of the state’s 58 counties voting in favor and 47 voting against. What may appear surprising to many people is that three of the counties where a majority of voters opposed legalization were Humboldt County, Mendocino County and Trinity County, an area, known as the “Emerald Triangle,” that is most dependent on marijuana as a crop. Yes, it’s true…many marijuana growers voted against legalization.
Ted Kogon, a longtime Humboldt advocate of legalizing marijuana, opposed Proposition 19 because “it did not include a provision to release all people who have been jailed for non-violent marijuana-related offenses.”
Others argued that when marijuana is legalized, large corporations will move in and squeeze out small growers, as has happened with more traditional agricultural crops. And some simply see it as a threat to their economic livelihood: illegal substances bring a larger profit margin than legal ones. The wholesale price of marijuana is expected to drop by almost two-thirds with legalization.
Ted Kogon, a longtime Humboldt advocate of legalizing marijuana, opposed Proposition 19 because “it did not include a provision to release all people who have been jailed for non-violent marijuana-related offenses.”
Others argued that when marijuana is legalized, large corporations will move in and squeeze out small growers, as has happened with more traditional agricultural crops. And some simply see it as a threat to their economic livelihood: illegal substances bring a larger profit margin than legal ones. The wholesale price of marijuana is expected to drop by almost two-thirds with legalization.
-David Wallechinsky
ChesusRice
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As voters in Washington state this month legalized marijuana for recreational use, they overrode the concerted lobbying of a conspicuous interest group: The dispensaries that already had the right to sell marijuana for medical use, and who now risk relinquishing that lucrative marketplace to new competitors.
Though one might assume that legalization would be opposed primarily by law enforcement and social conservatives, nearly all of the money donated to fight the ballot measure in Washington came not from such groups but rather from the existing medical marijuana industry, according to state campaign contribution filings.
The main group formed to oppose the legalization ballot measure, "No on I-502," was directed by Steve Sarich, a patients' rights advocate who runs a local dispensary or "access point," as he calls it. He says neither he nor his campaign's contributors opposed the measure for financial reasons. "There may be a few that are making some money," he told HuffPost Monday, "but most of them are just paying the rent."
The "No on I-502" campaign has argued that the ballot measure inappropriately makes marijuana users vulnerable to prosecution under the initiative's DUID ("Driving Under the Influence of Drugs") provision -- an assertion that others have challenged.
But some involved in the fight suggest a more direct motive for the opposition: Those who already have the right to sell marijuana in Washington -- the medical use industry -- were reluctant to surrender the market to a new crop of competitors, a development likely to send prices plummeting while generating as much as $606 million in tax revenue next year, according to widely cited estimates.
Though one might assume that legalization would be opposed primarily by law enforcement and social conservatives, nearly all of the money donated to fight the ballot measure in Washington came not from such groups but rather from the existing medical marijuana industry, according to state campaign contribution filings.
The main group formed to oppose the legalization ballot measure, "No on I-502," was directed by Steve Sarich, a patients' rights advocate who runs a local dispensary or "access point," as he calls it. He says neither he nor his campaign's contributors opposed the measure for financial reasons. "There may be a few that are making some money," he told HuffPost Monday, "but most of them are just paying the rent."
The "No on I-502" campaign has argued that the ballot measure inappropriately makes marijuana users vulnerable to prosecution under the initiative's DUID ("Driving Under the Influence of Drugs") provision -- an assertion that others have challenged.
But some involved in the fight suggest a more direct motive for the opposition: Those who already have the right to sell marijuana in Washington -- the medical use industry -- were reluctant to surrender the market to a new crop of competitors, a development likely to send prices plummeting while generating as much as $606 million in tax revenue next year, according to widely cited estimates.
ChesusRice
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"Clearly these are just folks who are trying to keep the status quo in place because it's working for them right now," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). "Charging $150 to $400 for an ounce of marijuana is only possible under prohibition. You just can't get that much money for dried vegetable matter if the product is actually legal."
ChesusRice
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Now, you may be thinking, “So? Who says I have to buy a pack of Marlboro Marleys? Can’t I just keep getting it from the dude who lives on the 2nd floor of my apartment building?”
Maybe. After all, the black market will never be completely stamped out. But the truth of the matter is that legalization of marijuana will translate into harsher penalties for independent marijuana growers and distributors because they will be viewed as “taking money out of Big Marijuana’s pocket.” Lobbyists for Big Tobacco will push for stricter legislation to protect their industry and crackdowns on even small-time dealers will ensue. For every grower or dealer that is caught and used as an example by the courts to his colleagues, you can count on 2-5 more quitting the business out of fear. Of course, this isn’t even taking into consideration how many of them will give up because their business will slow too much to be sustainable now that their clientele can buy legally and conveniently by simply walking down to the corner store.
Maybe. After all, the black market will never be completely stamped out. But the truth of the matter is that legalization of marijuana will translate into harsher penalties for independent marijuana growers and distributors because they will be viewed as “taking money out of Big Marijuana’s pocket.” Lobbyists for Big Tobacco will push for stricter legislation to protect their industry and crackdowns on even small-time dealers will ensue. For every grower or dealer that is caught and used as an example by the courts to his colleagues, you can count on 2-5 more quitting the business out of fear. Of course, this isn’t even taking into consideration how many of them will give up because their business will slow too much to be sustainable now that their clientele can buy legally and conveniently by simply walking down to the corner store.