Democratic Rep Jeff Van Drew meets with Trump to bend the knee.

too larry

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. . . . . . . .How long I wonder before Tulsi jumps out for her 3rd party run to do for Trump what just got Boris elected?
The UK always have more than 2 parties. The Labor Leader refused to take a stand on Brexit, plus he promised the world to everyone. Boris won seats that Labor had held since the 30's.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Rep. Jeff Van Drew, anti-impeachment Democrat, expected to switch parties after Trump meeting

But this is still the guy that wasn't going to support Nancy as Speaker. It sucks to lose the seat, but with the Russian mess I wouldn't bet there are not more dirty Democrats rooted out with the Republicans. How long I wonder before Tulsi jumps out for her 3rd party run to do for Trump what just got Boris elected?
Good luck with his primary, the democrats have a "base" too and this will make them most unhappy.
It seems he is switching parties and going over to the dark side, he went to get the emperor's blessing and smooth the way. Donald's kinda guy, a natural born traitor.
 
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hanimmal

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All the Blue Dog seats we picked up in the off year election are in danger due to the impeachment.
Agreed, but mainly due to the Russian/Trump online propaganda push to the voters in their districts, it cannot be helped and is not the Democrats fault. If the Democrats did not impeach him we wouldn't know what we know now due to his obstructing justice.

The information is starting to flow, and the Democrats have not even started competing with the nonstop barrage of Trumps re-election greatest hits, when it turns it is going to be pretty sad seeing this guy melt like ice cream on a hot day.
 

hanimmal

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So where do Americans stand on the questions at the heart of Democrats’ charges? Overall, our tracker of impeachment polls shows that public opinion remains divided, with 48 percent of Americans in favor of impeaching Trump and 44 percent opposed.



I think it is hard for Nancy to lose at this point. She let it up to people to vote their conscious so either he is not impeached or he is in the house at this point. I don't think anyone won't vote for the articles because there are not enough of them.

If it does win and goes to the Senate, if Mitch doesn't give it the respect it deserves to let the American public know what's up, Nancy can just start slapping Trump with impeachment hearings until the elections to drown out his ability to lie and not have any public pushback. There are plenty of abuses of power she can keep adding articles for the Senate to vote on, one after another. Pushing through legislation in-between it all too just to troll Mitch.
 

too larry

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Agreed, but mainly due to the Russian/Trump online propaganda push to the voters in their districts, it cannot be helped and is not the Democrats fault. If the Democrats did not impeach him we wouldn't know what we know now due to his obstructing justice.

The information is starting to flow, and the Democrats have not even started competing with the nonstop barrage of Trumps re-election greatest hits, when it turns it is going to be pretty sad seeing this guy melt like ice cream on a hot day.
I'm not real happy with how NP and Co have been handling the impeachment. We are going to take a hit, so why not hold out for everyone involved to testify. By doing this on the quick, we are playing into the GOP's talking points.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I was thinking about moving back to NJ but no fuckin way anymore with sicko s like him there and Trump has a house there as well.
The largest main health care system in N J is called Meridian Health and they make you give a blood sample before they hire you. If you fail you can not try to reapply for a year!! fuck that communist state. And the property taxes are insane! This guy looks like a fucking KKK member. Traitor!!
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Communist Dreamer

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I was thinking about moving back to NJ but no fuckin way anymore with sicko s like him there and Trump has a house there as well.
The largest main health care system in N J is called Meridian Health and they make you give a blood sample before they hire you. If you fail you can not try to reapply for a year!! fuck that communist state. And the property taxes are insane! This guy looks like a fucking KKK member. Traitor!!
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I think you're confused about communism. That's closer to libertarian Objectivism. Also under communism, there isn't any property taxes, since that's the whole point of, "each according to their need," motto. "Gimme the money!" is more the motto of the capitalist pig. Oink!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'm not real happy with how NP and Co have been handling the impeachment. We are going to take a hit, so why not hold out for everyone involved to testify. By doing this on the quick, we are playing into the GOP's talking points.
By going with just two impeachment articles she is leaving her options open, she and everybody else knows that the GOP senate won't remove him, unless it's a surprise move and I doubt that. After they acquit him of an easily proved and simple case, she will investigate him on other charges with the courts giving her increasing power and information. Witnesses will be compelled to testify by the courts soon and Donald's tax info is being made available by several means, the SCOTUS is expected to rule on it by June. Even though double jeopardy does not apply in impeachment, she has lots of room to maneuver and lot's of investigating left to do right up until election season and perhaps up to election day. There's still lots of stuff on the Ukrainian affair, not to mention Muller to mull over again, this time with court compelled testimony. Then there will be Donald's taxes, as well as the arrest of Rudy, one of his Russian goons is already squealing like pig.

Don't forget, during all this Donald will be freaking out on twitter, ranting at news conferences and confessing on TV to new crimes, it's gonna be a long hot summer for Fat Donnie, you'll see the orange beast sweat when the heat goes up. Donald will continue to create mayhem and will go nuts if he gets away with this one, he's gotta win and he's gotta cheat and steal to do it. Win in 2020, or be in prison by 2023 at the latest! :lol:
 
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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I think you're confused about communism. That's closer to libertarian Objectivism. Also under communism, there isn't any property taxes, since that's the whole point of, "each according to their need," motto. "Gimme the money!" is more the motto of the capitalist pig. Oink!
I’m not confused about anything. My sister lives in NJ and she told me it’s a communist state. She is extremely oppressed and can not buy any gummies there. Where do you live?
 

Communist Dreamer

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I’m not confused about anything. My sister lives in NJ and she told me it’s a communist state. She is extremely oppressed and can not buy any gummies there. Where do you live?
New Jersey's problem is the crime because of the huge disparity between the poorest and richest. That's not caused because of communism. The issue is they're one of the states with the greatest corporate welfare abuse. So communism would actually help them. Because then there'd be more economic equality, and less of an incentive for those without hope to commit crimes.

The police state sees the solution as more police. Again, that's not communism, but does make the situation worse.

Your sister not being able to buy any gummies is because of greedy capitalists, which true communism is against.

You can't convolute Soviet Russia with communism. It was essentially the same as what Nazi Germany was doing, except with different economic policies, and who's tagged as the "it" bad guy the government chased. All three governments: USSR, Nazis, and New Jersey, are oppressive states, just to varying degrees, with some areas better or worse, for power reasons.

There has in the past been communist regimes that've worked quite well, like many of the Native American tribes before we colonized. But they weren't without their problems too, mainly due to wars. But that wasn't really their fault, they didn't have technology to better organize themselves, and utilize resource management.
 

UncleBuck

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New Jersey's problem is the crime because of the huge disparity between the poorest and richest. That's not caused because of communism. The issue is they're one of the states with the greatest corporate welfare abuse. So communism would actually help them. Because then there'd be more economic equality, and less of an incentive for those without hope to commit crimes.

The police state sees the solution as more police. Again, that's not communism, but does make the situation worse.

Your sister not being able to buy any gummies is because of greedy capitalists, which true communism is against.

You can't convolute Soviet Russia with communism. It was essentially the same as what Nazi Germany was doing, except with different economic policies, and who's tagged as the "it" bad guy the government chased. All three governments: USSR, Nazis, and New Jersey, are oppressive states, just to varying degrees, with some areas better or worse, for power reasons.

There has in the past been communist regimes that've worked quite well, like many of the Native American tribes before we colonized. But they weren't without their problems too, mainly due to wars. But that wasn't really their fault, they didn't have technology to better organize themselves, and utilize resource management.
I’m from new jersey

you’re not

you’re a full of shit windbag
 

hanimmal

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I'm not real happy with how NP and Co have been handling the impeachment. We are going to take a hit, so why not hold out for everyone involved to testify. By doing this on the quick, we are playing into the GOP's talking points.
Because if they broke for Christmas/holidays before the witnesses were forced to testify (think McCabe still has a while before they find out and he is the first one), Trump could shut down the government again and blame the Democrats. This way Trump really has nothing he can say or do against the Democrats in the House.

Also too, the Russians have hit us hard, Tusli is in the house, and is a puppet, the NJ guy too seems to be siding with Trump, so there might still be some rooting that she needs to figure out in the house too so she knows how deep it is.

A lot of politics is figuring out how to fix peoples fuck ups with as little turmoil as possible, this might not be different really, it just depends on the Republicans.
 

hanimmal

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I think you're confused about communism. That's closer to libertarian Objectivism. Also under communism, there isn't any property taxes, since that's the whole point of, "each according to their need," motto. "Gimme the money!" is more the motto of the capitalist pig. Oink!
Does it really matter if you have less taxes to pay if you make far less than the American even after you figure taking out the taxes?
Sure bud. Let's compare where a nuclear blast went off, Chernobyl vs New Jersey. Let's play a game. Guess which one is which.






I am glad you let yourself go from the peacefully oblivious act, this is much better.

Are people moving back into the land of Chernobyl that just positively radiates beauty.
 
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