Ditching FF Nutes (super soilers welcome)

Antisocial Extrovert

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I’m finishing up my first grow (Nirvana’s NL in soil) using the FF trio line & they’ll get chopped here in a couple of days. I’m all finished with the FF and I haven’t seen what all the hype was about to be honest and I’m looking to making a switch to another line for this next batch. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I feel there are better alternatives out there but due to my lack of experience, they’re unknown to me. If you’re not using FF, what are you using? I’m REALLY intrigued about super soil recipes and want to know what the pros and cons are for using that vs. manually feeding with liquid nutes. Thanks in advance!
 

Richard Drysift

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There is no hype or at least there shouldn't be. The only person that ever was hyped about nutes is the guy making money selling them. Growing with nutrients is NOT better than growing without them. When you feed nutes they are taken up directly by the root system. The plants just want available food they don't care where it's from but nutrients force feed them everything all at once whether it is actually needed or not. This is why it's so easy to burn plants with them. Nutrients get into the flesh of the plant and can affect taste if used too heavily. That's why you need to "flush"plants in the final weeks.
In a natural soil grow the plants take up only what is needed by exchanging cations with mycorrhizae fungi in a symbiotic relationship. "Super soil" btw is a silly marketing term coined by subcool to get you to buy overpriced dirt which you can easily make yourself.
Microbial activity decomposes organic materials in the soil making it available to the fungi which in turn metes it out to the root system. It's like having a mini ecosystem in your containers. This is how all green flowering plants are fed through photosynthesis; the way plants have evolved over millions of years. This is not just some hippy bullshit: organic bud tastes as it should.
The easiest way to get started is to use whatever soil you've got as a base and building from there. You can build an entirely new soil from scratch but it can get pricey. The nice thing about organic growing is the simplicity; just water your plants. That's pretty much it. You spend your energy building up a mix and then just letting it ride. So you have to kind of put what is needed in the soil before it is actually needed as opposed to fixing deficiencies as they arise like a nutrient grow. There's no quick fix once your plant turns south in organics.
You will need access to a nonchlorinated water source. I use water reclaimed from a dehumidifier myself. To keep microbial activity at a high level you can give actively aerated compost teas (AACTs) a few times during the lifecycle of a given plant. The most important ingredient being compost specifically worm compost or vermicompost being the best. You will need access to a form of compost; bagged EWC is good but fresh is much better. I have a worm bin so I basically feed my plants mostly just kitchen scraps. Have not had to spend a dime at a "hydro" store in years. Organic growing is totally self sustaining and cost effective. I'm trying to convert all who seem interested because natural soil growing is not only better for your wallet it's better for the planet. Check out the organic section if you want to know more, here's a link to my thread if you want to see how it's done:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/dick-does-dank.909077/
 
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