Does Hydro yeild more than soil?,,, if so how much

ShLUbY

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I grow plants under a 600w in soi and my plants never grow large good qualty buds at the base of the plant,
like every one else i get some airy buds, how did you pull this off ?
from everyone else, i guess i just got lucky?
 

since1991

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Luck has nothing to do with it. If you hit them numbers like you claim yoh would know this. Your not humble enough to be a pro. And yes to hit them weights you have to know what the fuk your doing son. The reason why good growers are so low key and humble and always talking thier shit down? CUZ THEY KNOW HOW MUCH FUKIN WORK THEY PUT IN TO GET 2.4 LBS A 1000 WATT!!!!! You get on here and talk shit like its easy to people that have dedicated thier lives and risk their freedom for this. And your lying on top of it.
 

ShLUbY

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from everyone else, i guess i just got lucky?
You can tell guys like SPL know what the fuk they are doing. Again...its obvious. The kid is a rookie. You can tell. He doesnt have 5+ years experience and he doesnt even get 24 zips a sixer. Hes a typical kid with a tent that finally cranked out some buds and is really excited about it. No exp grower would post pix like that. Most really pros are humble and always talk their shit down. Always saying "i should of done this" i should of done that" while showing you a big bad clean ass room with a sea of colas tearing through the trellis netting. This kids a rookie folks. He got called out. Hes slightly backtracking. Hes typical. All the forums are loaded with em. Especially here on rollitup. When yoh hear bowshit claims you got to call em out on it. Even if you were Thor himself you dont make the claims this kid is claiming. Pure rookie. He knows it. We know it. Hes full of shit.
LOL, this makes me laugh. seriously. i dont understand. i never said i was better than anyone, never said my shit was better than everyone, you're putting words in my mouth. all i said was that it is possible to yield 1.5-2 lbs on a 600 consistently because someone said something that did not agree with what i have seen with my own eyes. so i called bullshit. it doesnt take 6 plants to grow 1.5 lbs. i can do 4 plants 1.5lbs no problem. that's what i said, and that my highest was 8oz per plant to give 32oz.
 

ShLUbY

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i didn't insult anyone, call anyone a liar, and you just insult repeatedly. i think you need to view this conversation from a different perspective.
 

ttystikk

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I know a guy here on RIU who pulls a pound to one and a half in his 3x3 tent under a 600W HPS. He does it with just one plant in a modified hempy (hydro), very carefully manicured to make up to 25 tops in a beautiful, even canopy. He does this very consistently, top shelf pulls time after time. @flowamasta y'all should look him up sometime.

I'm a lot more impressed with consistent quality than I am with a big yield number. I'm not ashamed of .75gpw if I can hit it consistently with top quality product.

Btw, the one and only weight that counts is when it's fully cured and ready for the patient. Period. That can be anywhere between ten and twenty percent of wet weight- but it's not a fudgable figure. 65% RH refers to climate conditions in the cutting room, nothing more.

Rookie. LOL
 

SPLFreak808

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LOL, this makes me laugh. seriously. i dont understand. i never said i was better than anyone, never said my shit was better than everyone, you're putting words in my mouth. all i said was that it is possible to yield 1.5-2 lbs on a 600 consistently because someone said something that did not agree with what i have seen with my own eyes. so i called bullshit. it doesnt take 6 plants to grow 1.5 lbs. i can do 4 plants 1.5lbs no problem. that's what i said, and that my highest was 8oz per plant to give 32oz.
No, what got me was " if your not pulling 3lbs per 1k, your not doing it right". Im not gonna rag you down. But i straight up dont believe 3lbs everytime from 1kw is possible, not without seeing it first hand and not without numerous cuts of the same high yielding girls in an overbuilt room tailored to the environment the cuts originated from.
 

ShLUbY

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I know a guy here on RIU who pulls a pound to one and a half in his 3x3 tent under a 600W HPS. He does it with just one plant in a modified hempy (hydro), very carefully manicured to make up to 25 tops in a beautiful, even canopy. He does this very consistently, top shelf pulls time after time. @flowamasta y'all should look him up sometime.

I'm a lot more impressed with consistent quality than I am with a big yield number. I'm not ashamed of .75gpw if I can hit it consistently with top quality product.

Btw, the one and only weight that counts is when it's fully cured and ready for the patient. Period. That can be anywhere between ten and twenty percent of wet weight- but it's not a fudgable figure. 65% RH refers to climate conditions in the cutting room, nothing more.

Rookie. LOL
umm so why does it change when i seal the hygrometer in the jar? doesnt that mean it's the jar's RH and not the room??? me thinks so... or does the jar become the room?? mind blown...
 

ShLUbY

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No, what got me was " if your not pulling 3lbs per 1k, your not doing it right". Im not gonna rag you down. But i straight up dont believe 3lbs everytime from 1kw is possible, not without seeing it first hand and not without numerous cuts of the same high yielding girls in an overbuilt room tailored to the environment the cuts originated from.
i agree i was exaggerating. and i said before, not all strains are equal. i only had one strain do 8oz per plant like that. the one's i posted pics of were 7oz per plant. have the 9lb hammer and the best i can do is 6oz per plant with those.
 

since1991

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Alls it took was a few pages for you to come clean? Now about that 32 zips consistently under 600 watts. Sorry iam not letting you go quite yet.

Now
 

SPLFreak808

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i agree i was exaggerating. and i said before, not all strains are equal. i only had one strain do 8oz per plant like that. the one's i posted pics of were 7oz per plant. have the 9lb hammer and the best i can do is 6oz per plant with those.
Not even going to apologize for offending me? Im a new grower still i admit. Ive been growing for less then a decade, i learn ALOT from people here who have been growing for over 20/30 years. I even get called out on mistakes but i accept human nature. To be humble and admit is to learn. If i called your house a dirty raggedy piece of trailor trash shit, would you be offended since you obviously worked hard and can only afford that raggedy ass place? I essentially compared my level with yours which is rude considering you gave it your all and came back with shit.
 

ShLUbY

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i dont see how i offended you anywhere??? if it was the 3lbs per that offended you, hey im sorry. i agree i was caught up in the moment. i know it takes a lot of work to grow 2.5+lbs on a lamp.

other than that i dont see how i could have possibly offended you. I admit and learn all the time. i've worked hard to know what i do about plants and soil. and i dont even know shit.
 

since1991

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So you had one plant do 8 zips once. And assumed that with close walls and you got a big hood that 3 more would equal 32 zips right? Thats how you want people to "accept it"? Thats your conclusion that 24 to 32 zips from a 600 watt consistently can be had? Not that you actually have done it huh?
 

ShLUbY

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no, not one, 4x8. did you not understand that in the beginning? i used those brainwreck pics as an example cause those were the only pictures i had. 4 fit under a light. i don't know what else to say other than i'll do 4 of the black domina under a 6 and get a great yield. i'll show when its done, promise. i've done 4x6 with the dom, wreck, and 9lb. so yeah 24 is achievable. i will SHOW.
 

since1991

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Listen to the Domina Kids words now and go back a few pages when he first was chiming in with bowshit. Humility i tell ya...humility. All it took was a few pages. Hes coming.around now. Domina the Kid. I like that. Your allright Kid. You on your way. Nice plants by the way. Keep at it . Iam done here. Later folks!!!
 

mr sunshine

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Oh and.its not easy to get 2 lbs per with multiple 600 watters. Its down right and pretty much impossible with the traditional 600 watt horizontal single ended. Believe me. I speak from many yearz experience. Ask any real pro grower. Not just some kid with a tent and they will tell you the truth
1 and a half is very possible. I know people that pull 18 to 20 in a tent with a single 600 . two of them can get it done.

No ones saying its easy. I also know of people that pull 3 to 3 and a half lbs off each gavita.. Sog can yield big.. I wouldn't put an impossible tag on it. This guy may be lying but that doesn't make it impossible.
 

ShLUbY

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You're lying. Now you just sound like a jackass.
i admitted i exaggerated that comment. but seriously i will show 28-32 oz with the 4 plants i have lined up. remember i'm even making this claim using a totally new nutrient regimen because my living soil is not ready to use for a few weeks cause i just mixed it a week ago. i picked up some vegamatrix to finish out what is in my veg tent and push them through flower, and then all my soil will be switched to recycle living organic only. I have seen what the vegamatrix can do from a friend, and love the finished product he does. so i picked up the line except the zyme, i'll make my own enzyme teas.
 

since1991

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Remember were talking 600 horizontal trad. single ended here. 24 zips very possible. Very rare but very possible. 18 to 22 is what i use to get on a multi lamps setup. Gavita de and gavita 6/750 flex is a whole different deal. But 32 on a trad sixer....good luck!!!
 
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