Drugs in War, from Vikings to today

tampee

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It's reduced dental problems in America, that's why it's used.
It also keeps Americans ignorant. The lead helps too the government has acceptable lead content in that same fluorinated water.

They don't teach you about your rights in school because it's easier to take the rights away from an ignorant man. Also why they love alcohol it makes us really stupid.
 

Fogdog

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It also keeps Americans ignorant. The lead helps too the government has acceptable lead content in that same fluorinated water.

They don't teach you about your rights in school because it's easier to take the rights away from an ignorant man. Also why they love alcohol it makes us really stupid.
This Guy Is Drunk All the Time Because His Body Produces Its Own Alcohol
http://www.vice.com/read/my-gut-turns-yeast-into-alcohol
 

SneekyNinja

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It also keeps Americans ignorant. The lead helps too the government has acceptable lead content in that same fluorinated water.

They don't teach you about your rights in school because it's easier to take the rights away from an ignorant man. Also why they love alcohol it makes us really stupid.
You think it's actually possible to remove all sources of lead from the water table?

Trump tell you he could do it "and it's gonna be so great"...?
 

rkymtnman

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TRUMP IS A FASCIST.
back on topic, i'm curious about the Vikings even more so now. I used to work with a lot of Swedes and they were all extremely proud of their Wiking heritage as they would say in english. gonna have to see about finding a book about their history focused on the raping, pillaging, drinking and now shrooming!
 

choomer

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The poison aspect of fluoride was demonstrated to me when I was in single digits.
During a cleaning and fluoride treatment @ the dentist about 2 minutes after accidentally swallowing when I had been told not to swallow, I puked.
Later on the way home when I asked my mom why I had done that when I didn't feel sick at all anymore she told me it was a body's natural reaction to a sudden influx of poison and that fluoride, when concentrated, was enough to trigger that reaction.

While she tried to assuage my concerns, it steered me to baking soda/H2O2 dentifrice early on.

Back to the topic @ hand:

While opiate use for pain management is a no-brainer, I'd think a devil's stew of stimulants, something that dulls the social consciousness like alcohol, pain management, and steroids would be a perfect combat drug (this site has some interesting recent history of US military drug use).
DMAA looked promising for them, for a while, but:

The US Army continues to dispute the drug's links to the death of the soldiers, perhaps alarmingly citing that "the use and safety of these stimulant products remains matters of intense interest to the Department of Defense."

Look at professional sports "no pain, all gain" concoction use as a faint indicator of how far the military would go and in what direction. ;)
 

ttystikk

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The poison aspect of fluoride was demonstrated to me when I was in single digits.
During a cleaning and fluoride treatment @ the dentist about 2 minutes after accidentally swallowing when I had been told not to swallow, I puked.
Later on the way home when I asked my mom why I had done that when I didn't feel sick at all anymore she told me it was a body's natural reaction to a sudden influx of poison and that fluoride, when concentrated, was enough to trigger that reaction.

While she tried to assuage my concerns, it steered me to baking soda/H2O2 dentifrice early on.

Back to the topic @ hand:

While opiate use for pain management is a no-brainer, I'd think a devil's stew of stimulants, something that dulls the social consciousness like alcohol, pain management, and steroids would be a perfect combat drug (this site has some interesting recent history of US military drug use).
DMAA looked promising for them, for a while, but:

The US Army continues to dispute the drug's links to the death of the soldiers, perhaps alarmingly citing that "the use and safety of these stimulant products remains matters of intense interest to the Department of Defense."

Look at professional sports "no pain, all gain" concoction use as a faint indicator of how far the military would go and in what direction. ;)
The implications are frightening, and the VA is wholly unprepared.
 

Justin-case

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The implications are frightening, and the VA is wholly unprepared.

This explains Dr. Ben Carson subdued character, Scarry. Another thing I remember is the blood coagulent drugs that were used in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a concern that it was used to get wounded soldiers out of the country alive , but causing fatal blood clots later.


Oops edit: Surgeons, requiring a cool head and a steady hand, have long been known to use medications designed to steady nerves.
 
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SneekyNinja

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The poison aspect of fluoride was demonstrated to me when I was in single digits.
During a cleaning and fluoride treatment @ the dentist about 2 minutes after accidentally swallowing when I had been told not to swallow, I puked.
Later on the way home when I asked my mom why I had done that when I didn't feel sick at all anymore she told me it was a body's natural reaction to a sudden influx of poison and that fluoride, when concentrated, was enough to trigger that reaction.

While she tried to assuage my concerns, it steered me to baking soda/H2O2 dentifrice early on.

Back to the topic @ hand:

While opiate use for pain management is a no-brainer, I'd think a devil's stew of stimulants, something that dulls the social consciousness like alcohol, pain management, and steroids would be a perfect combat drug (this site has some interesting recent history of US military drug use).
DMAA looked promising for them, for a while, but:

The US Army continues to dispute the drug's links to the death of the soldiers, perhaps alarmingly citing that "the use and safety of these stimulant products remains matters of intense interest to the Department of Defense."

Look at professional sports "no pain, all gain" concoction use as a faint indicator of how far the military would go and in what direction. ;)
That's the most fucking stupid thing I've ever read, may the Lord have mercy on your soul.

It's a fucking neurotoxin, it doesn't affect the stomach you retard.

Keep posting tho, by the law of averages you'll be right about something eventually.
 

ttystikk

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This explains Dr. Ben Carson subdued character, Scarry. Another thing I remember is the blood coagulent drugs that were used in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a concern that it was used to get wounded soldiers out of the country alive , but causing fatal blood clots later.


Oops edit: Surgeons, requiring a cool head and a steady hand, have long been known to use medications designed to steady nerves.
Nothing wrong with a stiff shot before carving someone up like a holiday bird!

Lol
 

rkymtnman

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The poison aspect of fluoride was demonstrated to me when I was in single digits.
During a cleaning and fluoride treatment @ the dentist about 2 minutes after accidentally swallowing when I had been told not to swallow, I puked.
i had the same thing happen to me in my teen years. went to the dentist, after the cleaning they used to fill up 2 almost like mouthguards with a fluoride gunk and you'd have to hold them in your mouth for a few minutes maybe. after i got done with that, i just about ran out to the car and puked all over the side of it. after that, i felt fine.

i know it's supposed to be a neurotoxin, but that is kinda weird to have almost the identical situation asyou @choomer
 

SneekyNinja

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i had the same thing happen to me in my teen years. went to the dentist, after the cleaning they used to fill up 2 almost like mouthguards with a fluoride gunk and you'd have to hold them in your mouth for a few minutes maybe. after i got done with that, i just about ran out to the car and puked all over the side of it. after that, i felt fine.

i know it's supposed to be a neurotoxin, but that is kinda weird to have almost the identical situation asyou @choomer
Dude, you puke cos they fuck around with your teeth and you swallow all the filthy shit they're taking off...

Fillings youre swallowing tooth dust, etc.

Cleaning you're swallowing all the calculus that builds up.
 

choomer

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Dude, you puke cos they fuck around with your teeth and you swallow all the filthy shit they're taking off...
Fillings youre swallowing tooth dust, etc.
Cleaning you're swallowing all the calculus that builds up.
I'll take the word of Mom who was a nurse, which is more of a qualification than you have Squeaky, unless you'd like to trot out your medical certification.

But had you such certification you'd think about looking @ the sodium fluoride MSDS.
Specifically:
"The substance may be toxic to kidneys, lungs, the nervous system, heart, gastrointestinal tract, cardiovascular system, bones, teeth. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage. Repeated exposure to a highly toxic material may produce general deterioration of health by an accumulation in one or many human organs."

or

"Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects:
Skin: Causes skin irritation and possible burns, especially if skin is wet or moist.
Eyes: Causes eye irritation and burns. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal damage.
Ingestion: Harmful if swallowed. Causes digestive (gastrointestinal) tract irritation and burns. May cause severe and permanent damage to the digestive. Ingestion of large amounts may cause salivation, thirst, nausea, vomiting, hypermotility, diarrhea, and abdominal pain.
May affect behavior/central nervous system/nervous system (headache, nervousness, dizziness, seizures, convulsions, tremor, muscle weakness, somnolence), respiration (respiratory depression, dyspnea), cardiovascular system (weak pulse, hypotension, dysrhythmias, cardiac arrest), liver, urinary system (polyuria, polydypsia) brain, metabolism (loss of appetite, hypcalcemia, hyperkalemia, hypomagnesia, ), teeth, bones, and blood (changes in red and white blood cell count, interference in blood coagulation)
Inhalation: Causes irritation and chemical burns of the respiratory tract with coughing, breathing difficulty and possibly nasal septum perforation and coma. May affect bones. Chronic Potential Heath Effects: Chronic ingestion may cause fluorosis.
Effects of fluorisis may include joint pain, weakness, limited joint mobility, brittle bones, ossifications on x-ray, thickening of long bone cortices, calcificaiton of ligaments, osteomalacia, osteosclerosis (skeletal (bone and teeth) abnormalties) and mottled tooth enamel. Other symptoms may include anemia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation, kidney damage and weight loss/anorexia. Chronic inhalation may cause bronchitis to develop with cough, phlegm, and/or shortness of breath. ,liver (hepatic enzymes increased, jaundice).
But, accredited medical professional that you are, you know exactly the reason is because of swallowing "large amounts" of calculus (tartar, it being a substance that grows in the mouth of most all living things w/ teeth which would mean constant exposure).

Do you see how it being only a neurotoxin doesn't fly that well?

My problem with it is that it's poison that's added to the water supply.

Be happy you don't have newborns dependent on formula as they juice that with fluoride too and combining it w/ fluoridated water can dose the young 'un w/ many times the recommended dosage.



and

“Babies don’t need fluoride and fluoride ingestion doesn’t reduce tooth decay,” says attorney Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc. “So why are US babies still exposed to unnecessary fluoride chemicals via the water and food supplies and why aren’t parents informed of the consequences?” asks Beeber.
Up to 48% of school children have fluorosed teeth – 4% severe, reports the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) (3).
Could you present your evidence of fluoride not causing vomiting? ;)
 
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ttystikk

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I'll take the word of Mom who was a nurse, which is more of a qualification than you have Squeaky, unless you'd like to trot out your medical certification.

But had you such certification you'd think about looking @ the sodium fluoride MSDS.
Specifically:
"The substance may be toxic to kidneys, lungs, the nervous system, heart, gastrointestinal tract, cardiovascular system, bones, teeth. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage. Repeated exposure to a highly toxic material may produce general deterioration of health by an accumulation in one or many human organs."

or

"Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects:
Skin: Causes skin irritation and possible burns, especially if skin is wet or moist.
Eyes: Causes eye irritation and burns. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal damage.
Ingestion: Harmful if swallowed. Causes digestive (gastrointestinal) tract irritation and burns. May cause severe and permanent damage to the digestive. Ingestion of large amounts may cause salivation, thirst, nausea, vomiting, hypermotility, diarrhea, and abdominal pain.
May affect behavior/central nervous system/nervous system (headache, nervousness, dizziness, seizures, convulsions, tremor, muscle weakness, somnolence), respiration (respiratory depression, dyspnea), cardiovascular system (weak pulse, hypotension, dysrhythmias, cardiac arrest), liver, urinary system (polyuria, polydypsia) brain, metabolism (loss of appetite, hypcalcemia, hyperkalemia, hypomagnesia, ), teeth, bones, and blood (changes in red and white blood cell count, interference in blood coagulation)
Inhalation: Causes irritation and chemical burns of the respiratory tract with coughing, breathing difficulty and possibly nasal septum perforation and coma. May affect bones. Chronic Potential Heath Effects: Chronic ingestion may cause fluorosis.
Effects of fluorisis may include joint pain, weakness, limited joint mobility, brittle bones, ossifications on x-ray, thickening of long bone cortices, calcificaiton of ligaments, osteomalacia, osteosclerosis (skeletal (bone and teeth) abnormalties) and mottled tooth enamel. Other symptoms may include anemia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation, kidney damage and weight loss/anorexia. Chronic inhalation may cause bronchitis to develop with cough, phlegm, and/or shortness of breath. ,liver (hepatic enzymes increased, jaundice).
But, accredited medical professional that you are, you know exactly the reason is because of swallowing "large amounts" of calculus (tartar, it being a substance that grows in the mouth of most all living things w/ teeth which would mean constant exposure).

Do you see how it being only a neurotoxin that doesn't fly that well?

My problem with it is that it's poison that's added to the water supply.

Be happy you don't have newborns dependent on formula as they juice that with fluoride too and combining it w/ fluoridated water can dose the young 'un w/ many times the recommended dosage.



and

“Babies don’t need fluoride and fluoride ingestion doesn’t reduce tooth decay,” says attorney Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc. “So why are US babies still exposed to unnecessary fluoride chemicals via the water and food supplies and why aren’t parents informed of the consequences?” asks Beeber.
Up to 48% of school children have fluorosed teeth – 4% severe, reports the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) (3).
Could you present your evidence of fluoride not causing vomiting? ;)
So what does this have to do with drugs in warfare?
 

choomer

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So what does this have to do with drugs in warfare?
It seems I'm one of the few that's answered on topic in this thread with information, but since the latest Blue Cuck Crew member says my experience is "stupid" with no evidence or supporting documentation, I'll defend the anecdotal experience of myself and another member in the side topic that came up.

I'm more than willing to talk about military enhancement drug use. What part of the study I posted (about military drugs) would you like to delve in to?
 
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